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Impact Investing is a new term for a practice
that has been around for a very long time.
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The idea of Impact Investing is that you invest
for two outcomes, instead of just one.
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You invest for financial return, which every
investor does, but you also invest to have
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social impact as a result of your investment.
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And itâs really interesting â itâs a
field thatâs been exploding in the past
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decade, and itâs in the news every day.
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In fact, today there was a piece in the New
York Times about CalPERS, which is the largest
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U.S. pension fund, that manages 300 billion
dollars, saying that they are going to change
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the way that they invest some of their money
to look at the impact of their money on the
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environment, on social factors, and on corporate
governance, because they think itâs important
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to long-term value.
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The impact investing market has been growing
significantly over the past few years.
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And itâs really interesting to see the diversity
of institutions that are interested in impact
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investing.
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Financial institutions, like BlackRock, which
is the largest asset manager in the world,
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has just created a new division on impact
investing.
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Banks, like JP Morgan, institutions like Morgan
Stanley, U.S. Trust, Deutsche Bank, all of
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them building or expanding units, creating
new products, and trying to meet their customer
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demand.
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Whatâs also exciting is you see governments
looking at this as a tool.
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The U.S. government, for example, has an institution
called OPIC, which does its impact debt investing
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all around the world.
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They have never lost a dollar, and theyâve
actually paid the U.S. Treasury for the past
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30 years.
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We also see it in foundations.
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There was another piece in the New York Times
a little while ago about the Gates Foundation,
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that just made a 50 million dollar impact
investment into a vaccine company.
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So a lot of different institutions saying,
âhey, this is a way that we can actually
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scale solutions to social problems.â
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In terms of the size of the impact investment
market, I like to divide it into two parts.
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So the first part is the public part of the
market.
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And thereâs an institution that tracks that,
and theyâve said the public part of the
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market now is worth about 6 trillion, which
means that one out of every professionally
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managed dollar in the U.S. is screened for
social responsibility.
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The private part of the market, which is the
one that is more relevant to social enterprises
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often, because theyâre funding at lower
amounts and funding directly into companies,
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has risen to about 43 billion under management
in the last few years.
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So we have a lot of people putting their money
into instruments where theyâre trying to
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have impact.
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So the increased demand for impact investing
is coming from some interesting demographic
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trends.
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We see among millennials, for example, Deloitte
has surveyed them for the past 5 years, and
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asked them, âwhatâs the primary purpose
of business?â
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And their number 1 answer over that time has
been to improve society.
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So theyâre very interested in getting jobs
that fulfill those values, and also investing
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their money.
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We also see it among Boomers, and the retiring
generation of Boomers, who have a lot of cash
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to spend, who are interested in using their
expertise and their skills to build things
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that make a difference in society.
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And you see it among the very successful,
like Bill Gates, or Steve Case, or Pierre
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Omidyar, who have taken their assets, and
decided theyâre going to put them directly
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towards impact investing, and then also turn
some of their philanthropic effort to building
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the field of impact investing.
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CASE, the Center for the Advancement of Social
Entrepreneurship, is a center at Fuqua, thatâs
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focused for the past 12 years on how you can
take business techniques and apply them to
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lasting social change.
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We have been extremely interested in the capital
markets as a tool for social entrepreneurs.
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And the idea of impact investing has become
extremely exciting, because we work with social
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entrepreneurs who are non-profit, some of
whom need debt.
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We also work with social entrepreneurs who
are for-profit, and need debt or equity.
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So, this idea of investing as a means to help
them is really exciting.
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So 3 years ago we decided to create a program
within CASE specifically focused on impact
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investing, and we call it our CASE Impact
Investing Initiative, or CASE i3.
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And we were the first significant program
at a top business school to create an effort
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to build the field and the market of impact
investing globally.
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And we do a bunch of things here that are
very exciting.
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One, we run a student fellowship, so we areâŠ
we have a two-year MBA fellowship for our
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students â Daytime MBA students â who
are interested in impact investing.
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We also do research in the field.
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Weâre doing projects right now with the
White House, with several foundations, and
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with some other banks and other funders, and
we also work with other academics around the
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globe to build the evidence base, so that
more people can learn about how this is working.
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And I wanted to talk a little bit about a
research project that we did over the past
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3 years.
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So the question we had was: all this interest
in impact investing, and more funds, and more
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products, and more excitement â how well
are they actually performing?
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And what we realized is that the evidence
base was not really there in an accessible
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way.
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So we formed our own project, and we spent
3 years studying high-performing impact investing
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funds all around the world.
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And our criteria were really simple.
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We went to the people who invested in those
funds, often called limited partners, and
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we said, âwho is great?â
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And our definition of great is: have they
met or exceeded your intentions about financial
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and social return?
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We started out with a list of 300 funds all
around the world.
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We narrowed that down through those criteria
to about 30, and then we ended up studying
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12 of those funds in great detail, and basically
saying, âwhat made you special?
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What led to your success?â
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When we were done with that, we had a group
of funds that were managing 1.3 billion dollars,
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that were investing in 80 countries all around
the world.
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They invested in many different impact areas,
from health to business development, to financial
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inclusion, to education, and they had a broad
array of returns as well.
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Some of our developing market funds returned
between 3 and 22 percent to their investors.
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Our developed market equity funds returned
between 8 and 12 percent, and then we had
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a smaller group of social debt funds that
were doing very high impact work, and returning
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between 0 and 3.
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A lot of people asked us, âwell, 0 and 3
percent, that doesnât sound like success.â
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We said no, this is what they targeted.
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They promised their investors a 2 percent
return, and they delivered it.
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So one of the important things to understand
about impact investing is people are kind
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of saying, âis it always market rate?
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Is it⊠you know, or is it maybe always concessionary?â
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Weâre saying no, it depends what you targeted,
and thereâs people blending objectives.
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The other thing we learned through our study
is we looked across these funds that were
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successful, is we identified 4 practices that
seemed to come up again and again, when we
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talked to the funds, when we talked to their
investors, and when we talked to their investees.
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One of them is how they actually define themselves,
and we called this âImpact DNA.â
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That from the very beginning, they built their
mission into the investment thesis of the
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fund, to the point where it wasnât an add-on,
it was actually why they were going to make
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money.
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So to give you an example, thereâs a fund
in the study called Elevar Equity, which is
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a fund that operates in Latin America and
Asia.
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And they invest in disenfranchised populations,
who donât have access to financial services
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or healthcare, and sometimes housing.
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And they go into those markets and they find
very specific services that are going to work
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for those populations, and then they scale
them up, and they use all the tools â the
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people that run this fund were from the microfinance
industry and they understand scale â they
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have actually, theyâre now on their third
fund, their first fund, which is the one we
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profiled, has a 23 percent equity return,
which is the top decile of any fund.
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So really, really interesting.
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And they built their mission in from the very
first step.
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The second thing we learned about the funds
is that they often have very different stakeholders
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than you would think of for normal financial
vehicles.
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So, that Elevar Equity that I was just talking
about, their first investor was actually a
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foundation.
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It was actually the foundation that Pierre
Omidyar set up, and they gave them a program-related
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investment, which is a specific kind of investment
a foundation can make, because they believed
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in the idea of actually purchasing the outcome
of more people having access to finance.
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And so you see impact investors doing this:
identifying different stakeholders who care
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about outcomes.
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Who cares about education, who cares about
energy access, who cares about financial inclusion,
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and reaching those people, and getting them
engaged as the actual investors in the funds.
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The third thing that we found, which is even
more interesting, is how they engage with
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those stakeholders.
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So it is very common across all the different
asset classes that we looked at, and we looked
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at different asset classes, for the funds
to layer the investments.
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So, in structured finance, itâs very common
that you have a maybe a top layer, who gets
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paid back first, then you have a second layer
who gets paid back second, and then all the
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way at the bottom you have some people who
are⊠you know, they might get paid back,
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they may not.
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And what was interesting in these funds is
that you see there is a whole lot of funds
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in the space that have been anchored by catalytic
investors.
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So, thereâs another fund that we profiled,
which is a Deutsche Bank fund, itâs a microfinance
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fund, and they got the government of the U.S.
and the government of the U.K. to anchor this
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very successful, very large microfinance fund.
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And their whole thesis was if we can get them
to put in the loss-reserve layer, so if this
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fails somebody is going to pay you back, we
can actually get a whole bunch of commercial
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players in this fund.
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They actually exceeded their expectations.
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It was oversubscribed.
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And their goal was to show that if that succeeded,
they could do a next fund that didnât have
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a loss layer, to show the risk, you know,
really wasnât there.
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And they did that.
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So a very successful fund.
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Nearly every layer got back their return.
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There was one layer in the middle that didnât
get back their full return, and we interviewed
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them, and we said, you know, âwhat did you
feel about that?â
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And they said this was a total win for us,
because we were engaged in something that
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was important to us.
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And it was mostly corporations, and they wanted
the value of saying that they were investing
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in other countries in microfinanace, so it
was a win.
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The fourth practice that we uncovered, and
this kind of came accidentally when we were
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talking to the teams, is we realized that
the teams of these funds, not necessarily
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the individuals, but the teams as a whole,
they had a mix of skills.
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They all brought skills from the nonprofit
sector, the government sector, and the business
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and finance sector.
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In our study we called this multilingual leadership.
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We have now at CASE started to talk about
this as Tri-Sector Leadership, to get away
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from the linguistic-only connotations of it,
to realize this is experience, this is networks,
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this is frames, this is definitions.
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And having the ability to talk to these different
sectors, and actually understand what they
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want from you, and understand what you need
to give back to them, turns out is a success
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factor for impact investing.
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And thatâs great, because we as an educational
institution can now bring that back, and weâre
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training our students about different ways
of looking at problems from different sectors.
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Whatâs interesting about impact investing
is a lot of people think itâs really only
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something that really rich people can do.
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It is true that to invest in many funds you
have to be whatâs called an accredited investor.
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An accredited investor is a designation that
the IRS has created for someone who has a
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certain income or a certain net worth, and
they believe that you can take more risk with
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your capital if youâre a little bit more
wealthy.
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But whatâs been interesting is a bunch of
funds have stepped into the marketplace, and
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saying, âyou know, we want to actually make
this available to everyone.
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We want to democratize impact investing.â
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A lot of times they talk about it as making
retail products.
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Whatâs exciting is that thereâs now some
really interesting retail products available
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to anyone.
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If youâre interested in impact investing,
for example, you can go to a website called
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vested.org, and you can invest online as little
as 20 dollars in something called a community
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investment note.
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A community investment note is a product that
the Calvert Foundation, which is also one
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of the funds that we studied, has put together,
and itâs an instrument thatâs been around
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for 20 years.
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You choose your interest rate.
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You can go from between .5 percent to 3 percent,
and you can lock up your money for a different
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amount of time, depending on the interest
rate.
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And you can invest in communities.
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You can invest in the Twin Cities, you can
invest in Denver.
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You can invest in women around the world.
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You can invest in education.
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So you can do it by impact area, you can do
it by geography, and then you are an impact
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investor alongside everyone else.
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And what they do is they take your money and
they bundle it up together, and they give
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loans to institutions, who then give it to
people having impact.
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They have never lost any investor a dollar
in doing this.
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So itâs a safe, easy way, and it might even
earn you more money than your bank account.
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When I think about impact investing, itâs
a really exciting field to be in right now.
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We see the demand coming from our MBA students
of this idea that I can make money and make
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a difference at the same time is really intriguing.
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It turns out itâs a really exciting time
to be in this field, either as a professional
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or as a student, because a lot of things are
changing and kind of being created for the
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first time.
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One of the things Iâm most excited about
that Iâve been involved in over the past
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few years is the creation of this thing called
âB Corporations,â which didnât exist
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before, which a bunch of entrepreneurs kind
of came together and said, âhow do we protect
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the mission that people want to build into
for-profit companies.
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And how do we make it so that companies who
are saying they are being impactful so that
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people donât kind of see that all as greenwashing.â
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And so we actually created a certification,
so a company can become certified as a B â which
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stands for Benefit â Corporation, or now
they can actually go and incorporate as a
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Benefit Corporation in more than 20 states
around the country.
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So weâre actually changing the legal structure
for social enterprises to make them be more
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successful, and to help them meet their goals,
which is really exciting.
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And I do think in terms of kind of what the
next 5 to 10 years will bring, the most exciting
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thing about this field is how do we actually
define and communicate the impact that these
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companies are creating.
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Many of them are doing amazing work.
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Weâre starting to see some sort of emerging
standards, but to really get to a robust marketplace,
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we need to do more, and itâs a great area
for people to get engaged in.
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