Kubota BX Series VS. B Series - YouTube

Channel: Messick's Equipment

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Neil from Messick’s here.
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One of the most common questions that we’ve been getting
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since we started doing YouTube videos is to compare one tractor to another.
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We’ve done a lot of technical overviews on a BX series
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and a lot of overviews on a B Series
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but there are certain things that will cause a customer to opt
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for one tractor over another.
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We’re going to do a quick walk around and explain some of the demands
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that your application may have
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that would push you into a potentially larger
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or smaller machine.
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I should stress that it’s pretty plainly obvious
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that when these two are sitting side by side
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that one is obviously quite a bit larger than the other.
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One thing that always gets a little frustrating
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for a salesman of tractors is
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when a customer does too much Internet research.
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There is such a thing.
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When you’re standing beside a machine,
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you can very quickly start to see
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that one may just physically be too large for you,
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given the chores that you have a hand or may not fit your rear end well
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when you place it in the seat.
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We always want to stress that when going into the process
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of evaluating two different machines,
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there is really no replacement
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for getting out and getting on a tractor,
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looking at it and kicking its tires.
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That said.
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I’m going to go through a couple things here
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that we do often see
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that will sway people one way or the other.
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In a BX Series tractor, a BX is the beginnings of a real tractor.
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We’re talking of machine with four-wheel drive
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and a three-point hitch and a diesel engine
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and power steering and all the features and qualities
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that a real tractor has
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granted it’s scaled down really, really far to make it
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as accessible as possible.
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If you’re somebody who’s coming from a lawn and garden type tractor
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and moving into the world of real tractors,
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a BX is going to feel like a very comfortable machine for you.
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It doesn’t sit all that far off the ground
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but it has all these real tractor features.
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It’s a nimble machine that’s easy to get around.
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This is typically your, you know, half to two to three-acre properties
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for the most part and customers that are really coming from smaller
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equipment for the very first time.
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The one limiting factor that we’ll have on this tractor
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that does often push us into other applications
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is ground clearance.
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For somebody that works in a wooden lot or is going
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to be using the tractor to pull trees of the woods
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and those kinds of chores,
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a subcompact tractor like this simply doesn’t’ have
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a whole lot of ground clearance.
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If you look under the machine with the mower deck attached.
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You got six, seven, eight inches underneath of it
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when the mower deck’s raised up the whole way
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to go to the extent of pulling the mower deck off.
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You’re going to get another two inches,
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three inches underneath there
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but not a whole heck of a lot.
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Not enough to really feel comfortable to go crashing through the woods,
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not to say that many people don’t do it.
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They absolutely do
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but you’ll hear horror stories of sticks punching up
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in the transmission fans or some of the softer bits
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of the tractor being damaged from the guys that will do
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that kind of stuff.
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It’s in that application that we start to say,
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"Maybe you do it a little bit more and come on over here
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to a B Series machine."
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Another limiting factor on a subcompact can be
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the size and dimension of the three-point hitch.
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These are machines that are made to be intentionally low to the ground
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because we’re coming out of lawn and garden type equipment.
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We don’t necessarily want some huge high sitting tractor.
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A lot of guys also have slopes
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and that kind of stuff on their properties.
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The higher you sit off the ground, the more unstable you are.
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Low machines are really preferred on those applications.
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That said, when things are compacted, so low to the ground,
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there are some limitations of the size implements
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that you can now fit on the three-point hitch.
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This is a full category, one-three points.
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Technically, a whole world of stuff can pin up to the back of this
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but that doesn’t mean that the tractor is going to be
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adequately sized to lift and manipulate those implements.
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Typically, we’re looking at 42-inch rotary cutters
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or a rear blade in a landscape rake at five feet
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rototillers around the 48 to 52-inch mark.
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Generally, with all those implements
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we’re sizing them for the smallest ones that we can find.
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They’re going to cover the track of the tractor.
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This is going to use a 48-inch loader bucket
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which generally means what right about 45, 46 inches
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across our back tires.
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Every set of tires, depending on their tread pattern
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can vary a little bit.
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If you really want to hone in on that,
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put a tape measure across the back of your machine
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but those implements were always going to be sizing it
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at a capacity of the three-point hitch
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and the track of the machine.
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If you’ve got, say, six acres that you need to go bush hog
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and a 42 inch bush hog is simply going
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to take you too long to get it done
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and you like something a little bit bigger.
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That’s when we need to consider moving to the B Series.
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When it comes to doing a tractor work,
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the power of the transmission and the weight of the machine
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is a factor.
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You need a gutsy grunt of a transmission
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and good tractor weight in order to get a good traction.
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All these machines are four-wheel drives.
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Subcompacts are typically more than adequate for the applications
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that they have but you’re going to find those things on any tractor
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that is going to push it a little bit.
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The transmission in most subcompacts and many other small tractors
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are two ranges.
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When we start to really want to do those demanding applications,
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I go back to pulling logs and stuff out of the woods again.
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Many tractors will have a three range transmission
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including the B Series.
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You would have a low, medium, high instead of just a high, low.
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Typically, those three range transmissions
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are geared a lot lower.
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When we go out and we throw a chain around our logs,
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when we want to yank it out of the woods,
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the additional weight and the additional transmission
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gearings from bigger tractors are going to allow it to do
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bigger tractor work.
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From having a physically bigger tractor,
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you can also have a physically bigger loader.
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We’re scaling up all of our implements.
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A B Series is going to start with an LA434 loader
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where the BX is going to use an LA 343 loader.
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That difference there, gives the larger loader more capacity,
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bigger buckets, and more functionality.
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If you need to, say, transport 13 yards of mulch
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every year from one side of your yard to your flowerbeds
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like I do every year.
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A bigger tractor with a bigger loader and a bigger bucket is going to do
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those chores more quickly.
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Having a larger tractor with a higher capacity is going
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to enable you to do those things.
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We do need to watch that we don’t get too hyper-focused
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on those load of capacity numbers.
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Typically, as you move up into a larger loader,
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you’re also getting larger buckets to go with it.
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In operation, when you take a BX into a pile of dirt, you crawl,
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you break it out and you drive the operation of the tractor
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doesn’t really feel that much different
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than what a bigger machine does
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and that’s because we’ve optimized and performance match to the sides
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the buckets to the capacities of the loader.
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One is not necessarily going to lift the load, a bucket load,
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say, mulch stone, those kinds of things
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that another one wouldn’t.
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Simply because those buckets are sized
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to the capacities of the loader
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but we're going to work more quickly, more productively
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with a bigger bucket, with a higher capacity loader.
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One thing that is not different between these machines is
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the horsepower of their engines.
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We’re all very programmed to hyper-focus on horsepower.
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Well, what horsepower we’ve got under the hood of our car
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or every other person that walks up to our parts counter
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says, "I’ve got a 23 horse Kubota with a 16-inch motor deck."
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Thinking that, that explains everything about what the machine is
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and in today’s tractors, the same engine is often used
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in a lot of different machines for different applications.
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In this case, the BX Series uses a 23 horse engine.
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The B series also uses a 23 horse engine.
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We’ve got the same amount of horsepower.
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Now, that said, the bigger tractor is going to be mated
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to a larger hydraulic system and a more capable transmission.
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It is going to be capable of doing more tractory type work.
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The horsepower of the engine doesn’t determine
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the lift capacity of the loader, say, in this B Series tractor.
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This will come in 23 in the 26 horse variant,
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that extra three horsepower doesn’t make the loader
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lift more weight.
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It’s the hydraulic system and the pressure of those fluids
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that determines the performance of those implements,
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where the horsepower does help and does change things
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is going out the PTO.
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If we had a rototiller or a mowing application,
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now attract with more horsepower
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is going to be physically more productive.
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We’ve got to be careful
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when comparing purely horsepower between tractors.
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Not every horsepower is created equal.
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It comes down to the capacities of the hydraulic system,
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the weights of the tractor, PTO horsepower is very, very important.
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That’s a measure of the efficiency of the tractors driveline.
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You’ll notice, some machines that might be 23 horse at the engine
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but only putting, say, 15, without the PTO.
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While another machine could be 23 horsepower at the engine,
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putting 20 of it out the PTO,
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more efficient engine and more efficient transmission
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is going to get more work done.
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There is a lot more numbers to dive into on your spec sheets
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when looking at these tractors to get an idea of what kind of work
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they’re capable of doing
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and to be honest, horsepower is one of the least important of those.
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One of the few functional differences between these two tractors
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is the way that they’re three-point hitch works.
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You’ll notice most things on these two machines,
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your range selectors, your loader stick,
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your hydrostatic pedals, your PTO’s.
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All work very, very similarly.
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There is a difference in the way
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that the three-point hitches function.
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BX Series machines use what’s called a quarter wrenching valve
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to move their three-point hitches up and down.
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You have a control to pull up and a control to pull down.
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Typically, when you want to, say, have that the three-point hitch
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somewhere in the middle of its range,
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you kind of have to look behind you and eyeball where your hitch is at
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and stop at the right point.
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A B Series tractor is different.
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It has a regular position control three-point hitch
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with a one through eight on it.
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If you’re using , say, a box blade and you want to return back
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to the same position that you were in before,
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you can pull your lever back to, say, position number two
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and the implement is going to drop to that same point.
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The BX Series is not capable of doing that.
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It has that up and down control.
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Most of the time, that’s not problematic
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for our customers because you usually
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have your implement up for transport or down for work
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and not somewhere in the middle
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but there are some applications where that can be problematic,
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rating typically, being the most important of them.
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That’s something you see yourself doing frequently
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that could be something to consider pushing you up into
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the B Series tractor to get the more deluxe
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three-point hitch control.
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As you can see, there’s really nothing
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that a B Series tractor can do that a BX Series cannot do.
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It’s typically what you find with this kind of equipment.
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It’s not that one tractor is going to be able to accomplish a task
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that another one simply cannot do.
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It’s going to be a question of efficiency.
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A bigger tractor is going to use bigger more capable implements
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and do things more quickly.
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Where a two to three-acre customer could be really well-served
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by a BX series tractor.
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Somebody who’s got eight to 10 acres to mow is going to be really out
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for like two days straight with this machine.
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At which case we start moving into larger series tractors
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to pair the customer with the right machine
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for their application.
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If you’ve been staring at these spec sheets
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and going through the PDF files and trying to determine
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what is the right tractor for me rather than looking at the tractor.
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Turn around and take a look at your application.
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Question, "How much acreage do I have?
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How much mowing do I need to do? What loads do I need to lift?"
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Start to pair the machine to your application, in that way
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and really based upon the amount of time
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that you’re willing to invest in it.
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If you need to mow five acres
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and you want it to be done in an hour.
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You need a lot bigger tractor than if you’re willing to spend
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two hours mowing those same five acres.
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Application really is everything
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when it comes to purchasing the right tractor.
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If we can help you through your needs and identifying the right machine
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for the chores that you have at hand.
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Give us a call at Messick’s.
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We’re available at 800-222-3373 or @metricks.com.