Checking out an old Radio Shack multimeter - with a special ability - YouTube

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first order of business as usual is聽 checking out a different beer this聽聽
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is Bavarian dark lager from district聽 brewing company in Regina Saskatchewan聽聽
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the tasting notes uh describe it as malt forward聽 with notes of toffee raisin and chocolate
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yeah a fair bit of that toffee聽 note in there that's kind of neat聽聽
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it's been a while since I've had a聽 lager. So tonight I'm looking at this聽聽
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piece of vintage radio shack equipment now in the聽 states radio shack ceased to exist a few years ago聽聽
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but in Canada that was what almost 20 years聽 ago 2004 i think it was that radio shack聽聽
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stopped existing at least by that聽 name they became a couple other things聽聽
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since then but uh yeah the radio shack name hasn't聽 existed in Canada for decades so what's in the box
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it is this multimeter oh sorry there we go english聽 side manual auto range dual display multi-reader聽聽
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a multimeter but the interesting thing about this聽 one is it has a computer interface so this unit is聽聽
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from 1994. and as i said what makes it interesting聽 and fairly unique in low cost multimeters is that聽聽
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it has a computer interface now of course ms-dos聽 software isn't going to be all that useful to me聽聽
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i think this is written for probably well windows聽 95 I'm guessing um is the windows software so聽聽
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yeah that's not really going to work very well聽 on my linux computer but i think i might have聽聽
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found some solutions for that on the good old聽 internet anyway i found this thing um earlier聽聽
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this week when i was digging through a storage聽 cabinet at work looking for something else and聽聽
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i remembered that we actually had two of these聽 and the reason we bought them is because of that聽聽
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serial port which allows data logging so what's聽 in here we have a radio shack branded battery聽聽
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so that's no doubt you know ish聽 years old so i doubt it's any good聽聽
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but that doesn't matter because we had this聽 thing powered from a 9-volt battery eliminator
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which is just that a 9 volt battery snap that's聽 kind of neat there's a little condom for the聽聽
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battery so that if it leaks it doesn't uh cause聽 all kinds of problems that's kind of nice looks聽聽
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like we had to customize that to make it work not聽 a big deal that's interesting us and german patent
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manufacturing korea and then all the different聽 radio shack variants the model number 22-168a聽聽
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if you look that up online you can find the聽 manual and a bunch of projects and stuff for it聽聽
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one of which i'm going to try later so聽 cables that are with this as a set of leads聽聽
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fairly standard leads they're not silicone聽 wire or anything but they're nice and lengthy
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and then there is the serial聽 cable all mixed in here
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so standard db9 on that end and聽聽
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these funky little bent pins on this end聽 which if i remember correctly yeah plugs into
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there and that allows you to pull data out of the聽 meter live and just save it onto your computer for聽聽
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later analysis and that's the reason that we聽 bought these things at work in the first place聽聽
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if i remember correctly they were about 100聽 bucks or something each so expensive by radio聽聽
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shack standards but as a multimeter with聽 data logging functions that's pretty cheap聽聽
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especially back then yep it works and聽 there's no reason why it shouldn't聽聽
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it didn't have batteries dying in聽 it it was just sitting there working
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first thing let's test its old聽 battery I'm gonna guess it's聽聽
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yeah seven volts that's better聽 than i expected actually聽聽
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so i think what I'll do is just聽 quickly compare this thing for accuracy聽聽
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against the most accurate meter that聽 i've got available to me which is this聽聽
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fluke 298 I'll just do a few quick tests that聽 won't be too extensive so here is dc volts mode聽聽
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I've got five volts on my little power supply聽 over there they're both tied in parallel here聽聽
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i'd call that pretty much the same
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so there's 19 volts coming out of here 1903 18.986聽 definitely close enough for most non-lab grade聽聽
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jobs that's just fine actually this is an聽 auto ranging they're not auto ranging so聽聽
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there you go yeah that's 200 volt聽 range this one is auto ranging so聽聽
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yeah that's reasonable enough no聽 complaints there okay let's try聽聽
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impedance i've got our resistance i guess聽 i've got this stack of resistors in parallel聽聽
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here which if i remember correctly is聽 close to 75 ohms yes 72.85 on the fluke
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72.9 on the radio shack that's pretty聽 reasonable uh what are the leads measuring at聽聽
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less than half an ohm there on the fluke聽 i'm going to guess it's about the same聽聽
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if not a bit lower yeah 0.15.16 so not enough聽 to throw a measurement like that off let's try聽聽
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a high resistance how about 25k yeah i know聽 it doesn't have to be a power resistor but聽聽
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i just happen to have that one right聽 handy dandy so there is that one 24.31
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that's pretty bang on for what it聽 says okay cool do we have anything聽聽
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else how about something right聽 in the middle there's 2.5 k
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2.46
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2.46 bang on that is so聽 much better than my original聽聽
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radioshock multimeter that i bought as a teenager聽 this thing is the least accurate multimeter聽聽
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that i have even worse than these guys which聽 are actually pretty damn close to this fluke聽聽
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one more thing i can fairly聽 easily try um ac line voltage
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123 and a third
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123.5.6 that's no problem with that at all聽 so that's cool to know that it's uh nice and聽聽
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accurate i'm curious to see what's inside this guy聽 uh looks like it shouldn't be too hard to open up聽聽
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just four screws I'll quickly do that聽 and bring you back just before i open it聽聽
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because screwdrivering isn't all聽 that exciting to watch i don't think
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there we go so little piezo聽 buzzers in the back there聽聽
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oh a bunch of shielding that's like聽 anti-static bag kind of plastic for shielding聽聽
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that's nice screw it down聽 through there ceramic fuse
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there we go deeper in looks like there's a nice聽聽
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big chip right there doing most聽 of the heavy lifting I'm guessing
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so yeah i guess uh yeah let聽 me pull off all those screws聽聽
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and come back in a second聽 here and the last screw okay
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and how can i lift that out of there
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trying not to destroy anything
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because i do want this thing to go back together聽 there we go okay what's that okay that's the聽聽
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insulating sleeves for the probes there's聽 some tweezers here can't get my big mitts聽聽
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in there right so there is another little聽 bit of insulation there's the capacitance聽聽
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connectors there's some connectors that go down聽 to the main board several of them so one connector聽聽
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down there one there a double row there there's聽 the capacitor check there is the what is that聽聽
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the transistor check power button is an actual聽 button and the other three buttons the mode and聽聽
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ac dc and set reset oh it's actually labeled there聽 function set reset and ecdc those are just little聽聽
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resistive button things and then two calibration聽 nice so this big maxim chip a max 130 cpl聽聽
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and this they're upside down but whatever聽 uh what is this met x metex uh ks 57c
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2016-13 which is probably the metering chip聽 there's a crystal there for it this is way聽聽
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different than a mo than the modern meters聽 with their single blob chip on board thing聽聽
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isn't that so yeah obviously i'm not going聽 to touch this calibration part or this聽聽
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little variable capacitor down here oh variable聽 resistor sorry vr2 i'm not going to go too deep聽聽
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into it i'm obviously not going to reverse聽 engineer it that would just be insanity but聽聽
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oh and then there is a zebra stripe or there and聽 up there actually uh it goes down to the zebra聽聽
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stripe connectors for the for the lcd oh hey on聽 the back of the lcd you see that mitex or medex聽聽
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same brand as this chip here with a date code聽 of 1998 fifth month uh may 31st of 1998 so there聽聽
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that dates it pretty definitively okay there it's聽 back together let's just make sure it still works聽聽
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power on volts dc should be about 19 or so聽 there you go 19 exactly good so it still works
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always the first thing to check once you've聽 taken it apart and put it back together right聽聽
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sure now then about this serial port clearly聽 i'm not going to be able to show you the the聽聽
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original dos and windows software that came聽 with it partly because i don't have a dossier聽聽
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windows machine here partly because they don't聽 have a machine that will read this disc anymore
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let's see if i can find some kind of a usb to聽 three and a half inch floppy drive at some point聽聽
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i'm if i had wine running i might be able聽 to run that software but i don't so plan b聽聽
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i have a usb to serial adapter which聽 should theoretically allow this聽聽
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to be read by the computer because in the manual聽 it gives some technical information this is from聽聽
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the golden age of radio shack when they actually聽 gave you technical information on the things that聽聽
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you bought so this thing talks at 1200 baud聽 uh it's seven bit no parity two stop bits聽聽
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and there is the frame of data that comes out of聽 it so that's fairly easy and it even tells you聽聽
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how to write a super basic basic program to uh聽 to deal with this which is really cool however聽聽
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i haven't bothered to install basic on my computer聽 but all you have to do is give it a d and it will聽聽
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give you a single reading so you can just聽 write something to send it to d every x number聽聽
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of seconds and it will dump some stuff out to聽 you so let's uh just try and do that manually聽聽
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okay so i am set up here on uh my usb serial聽 depth here 1272 and if i send it a capital d
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bugger all happens that's what it said right聽 1200 seven bit no parity two stops right okay
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send to d send a capital d nothing聽 okay maybe that's not the thing for it聽聽
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fine now something else i found in my聽 searching was this at linuxtoys.org聽聽
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i'll put a link down below um so somebody聽 went through and figured this thing out聽聽
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back in the day when it was a current item聽 and they wrote this little c program for it聽聽
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which is pretty cool so i have聽 actually gone and compiled this up聽聽
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i did have to add this standard library to it to聽 make it compile but it seems to have compiled so聽聽
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if i run it i'll see if i聽 can talk to make that work
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oh hey a result so this happens every 60 minutes聽 so i'm just going to uh well i'll speed the聽聽
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video up and i'm going to change the voltage聽 that it's reading on my power supply each uh聽聽
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a bit each time let's pull it down half a volt or聽 volt or something and i'll come back in a little聽聽
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bit here so while that's happening let's just go聽 and find out this uh matex or met x or however聽聽
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you pronounce it seems like they've been in uh in聽 a bunch of different industries for over 50 years聽聽
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among the things that they make currently are聽 these digital meters all industrial stuff all聽聽
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fairly heavy duty so i guess that somewhat聽 explains how something so uh interesting and聽聽
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heavy duty and accurate ended up in radio shack's聽 uh catalog it was made for them by somebody who聽聽
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actually knows what they're doing which is pretty聽 pretty standard actually reader shack had a lot of聽聽
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deals like that with sony and sure microphones and聽 crown microphones and cos headphones i guess that聽聽
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shouldn't surprise me really back to this there's聽 a handful of readings that this thing's taken over聽聽
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a minute or so i'm just going to uh i'm just聽 going to put it onto this resistor here which聽聽
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is around 75 ohms spin that around ohms and we'll聽 see what the next reading says when it comes out
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oh there we go 77.6 ohms that's uh聽 so you can track pretty much anything聽聽
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of course you could you could rewrite that program聽 there it is here you could rewrite that program聽聽
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to dump the data to a file or something you can聽 change the time on it or whatever you need to do聽聽
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it is c so anybody who's been messing with聽 arduinos for a while should be able to聽聽
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translate this at least a little bit and figure聽 out what it's what it's doing you could tinker聽聽
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and just recompile it and the beauty of having聽 a linux system is the com the gcc compiler聽聽
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is pre-installed it's just one command聽 to recompile this so that's pretty slick聽聽
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that satisfied my curiosity um and聽 i can actually still use this guy聽聽
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with in the modern day even though it's got a聽 fairly old-school connection on it with just a聽聽
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simple little ebay usb to serial adapter and聽 a chunk of random code that i found online聽聽
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it still works just as well as it ever did i聽 hope that was a bit of a nostalgia trip for聽聽
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some of you and a bit of a curiosity for聽 people who hadn't encountered this guy before聽聽
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i had fun uh digging through it and just聽 reminding myself of what this guy could do聽聽
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thanks for watching i do appreciate that as always聽 comments and questions down below there'll be some聽聽
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links down in the description i'm pretty sure i've聽 mentioned that already i will talk to you later