Film Theory: How To FREEZE Elsa! (Disney Frozen 2) - YouTube

Channel: The Film Theorists

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So Punk where's Queen Elsa you were the last ice block she made so now it's time to talk
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Playing it cool, huh? Well, we have ways of getting you to sweat.
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Ha now you're feeling the heat so I ask you again where is Elsa?
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What did he say ah
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Nothing turns out water doesn't have a memory or a voice or honestly anything that helps us solve this case. It is literally just water
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Hello Internet
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welcome to film theory where it's January and that means it's time to
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YouTube and chill since it's too warm in Southern California to build a snowman whether I wanna or not I have to find other ways
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To celebrate this time of year
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So I'm cranking out a sequel of my own unfrozen - just a silly but somehow less of a cash grab the Disney's version
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Yes
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I am ready to break the ice to talk about the most anticipated animated sequel of all time with most blatantly
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Merchandising all costume changes in Disney history in case you're wondering yes, there will be spoilers
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So if you don't want to hear the ending
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You don't want to put this video on ice
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And go watch the movie already or in other words go get it over with now despite the opening of this video
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I'm not actually gonna talk about the big theme of this movie which is water having memories. That's actually a theory for another day
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No instead today. They're actually turning back to frozen one to address the famous adage from Elsa. I
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Don't know if you've heard this one guys, but the cold never bothered also
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anyway
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Apparently that's their reasoning for her walking around on mountaintops and silk-organza
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gowns that are easy to mass-produce for the children of the world and one of our most famous lines from the most famous song the
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movie Elsa
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lets us all know that part of her power said is that she's
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impervious to how cold her ice castle is not only that but she walks around in the snow and has a gown with a very
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Chilly looking neckline, but it doesn't seem to matter because none of it can affect her seems like a very clearly defined power set
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I can respect that and then he fast-forward frozen to where?
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They throw all of it out the window in frozen - we have this massive
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climactic moment near the end of the movie where we see Elsa freeze
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Solid what we just went over how Elsa can't be hurt from the cold
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Oh, she's literally swimming in the Arctic Ocean and walking around in this permafrost forest for days in a jacket
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That's perfect for your next trip to Walt Disney Land, by the way, and when we see her defeated it's by freezing her today
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Ah, not only is it a blatant ripoff of the climax of the last movie where honour froze to death?
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But it just doesn't make sense
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The cold doesn't bother her so you know what the question is a theorist watching this movie have today
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Well, there are just so many questions, but the question I want to ask today
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Is this how cold does it have to be to bother Elsa clearly? She's not immune to freezing
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So what temperature does she freeze at what is actually going on in the scene?
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Where is the temperature that we get ourselves a nice?
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Elsa cold now in case you didn't feed the beast of the Disney sequel machine or your memory of this movie is foggy or you
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Just checked out after the words North old run at to Holland
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we repeated like
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47 times in this movie for four-year-olds also winds up in this chilly little predicament after embarking on a quest at the behest of
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Well almost nothing some spirits who are whispering tor or something and almost killing her entire kingdom, but they're not the same spirits
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Who are trapped in the misty wood? It's super confusing really inconsistent and not that well-written. Okay
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I just I gotta get that off my chest. Anyway, she journeys around the north to claim her place as the ultimate ice queen
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She abandons her sister who clearly has PTSD from the last movie and is angry about being left alone on this journey
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Which is a plotline that never gets resolved fantastic
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she rides a horse mermaid hybrid up to the north country and forgets about Kristoff along with the rest of the cast and crew of
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This movie who is left alone to sing an 80s inspired power ballad the real
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Theory here is whether Disney knew how badly put together this movie was but I really don't need to get myself started on that long
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story short what you need to know for this theory is by the end of the movie Elsa finds herself in the North Country and
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A dark mysterious ice cave of self-discovery. She falls a long distance into it. That's it. She freezes eventually
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She gets thawed by the power of who even cares anymore
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Let's pretend for the sake of this theory that they were trying to make a movie with logical cohesion and address
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How the heck a literal Ice Queen could possibly freeze to death
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Is there an actual scientific?
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Explanation here or was someone just banking on a little too much Disney magic if we're trying to figure out how chilling it needs to
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Be for Elsa to freeze. We need to get some perspective on temperatures that we're dealing with throughout these movies
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We know that Elsa has no problem surviving the cold in the movies two primary settings
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Arendelle and the northern forests as well as most of the other time that she spends in the northern sea in Holland
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How cold are these places and how much colder is it when Elsa actually winds up freezing?
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Arendelle as he might already know is a cross between Aaron Dahl and Bergen, Norway
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Aaron Dahl for its namesake and Bergen for its architecture and scenery we discussed this in our previous little frozen theory about the fact that
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Anna and Elsa shouldn't be
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biological sisters which in case you're interested you can catch up on here if you missed it since that theory Disney's released more information about
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Arendelle including a map shown in frozen fever which we can then
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cross-reference with the geography of Norway since the only real feature here is the forked river's I searched for similar geographic areas in Norway and
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Found Alisoun an area that lined up almost perfectly with a little map
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Manipulation the historic highs and lows for Alice wound in the fall
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Which is when the movie begins is seven point seven to twelve point two degrees Celsius or 46 to 54 degrees Fahrenheit
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Which gives us our parallels to arendelle interestingly Alice soon doesn't get very cold
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Even in the winter the highs and lows tend to hover just above freezing
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Meaning that Elsa's winter wonderland and frozen one would have been much colder than the geographic norm additionally
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We know North old roof. The Enchanted Forest is within a day or two wagon ride from arendelle
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So we're likely looking at the same temperature averages there as well with maybe a degree or two of difference
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None of the people living there seem to be Keeling over from frostbite
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So Elsa can just survive there like everyone else
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So with those two out of the way
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we can actually focus on the more northern locations to the movie the North Sea and
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Holland as Elsa journeys north again after abandoning her sister in the middle of nowhere
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We reach a point where according to the frozen fever map
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She runs into the North Sooey
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Which is Danish for North Sea now
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The closest body of water north of Norway on a real world map is the Norwegian Sea interestingly the name of the Norwegian Sea
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roughly translates to sea of the north
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So it's a fair stand-in a bit of research will tell you that the Norwegian
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see, especially the areas close to the coastline that we're dealing with all max out at about
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5.9 degrees Celsius or 40 point 8 degrees Fahrenheit
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which is not exactly prime surfing temperature yearly minimums of 1.3 degrees Celsius or
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36 point two degrees Fahrenheit are reported so waters that are just barely above freezing
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Making this some seriously cold water and easily enough to kill a normal person in a matter minutes interestingly
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OSes ability to survive in the cold water is perhaps more impressive than our ability to survive in icy castles on dry land
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Especially when you look at the thermodynamics of a human and water falling into water as warm as 68 degrees Fahrenheit or 20 degrees
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Celsius can trigger what's known as a cold shock response
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Which is the same response you get if your shower suddenly runs cold you gasp from surprise as a reflexive part of the response
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But if you're in a freezing ocean
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The gas forces water down into your lungs your limbs are suddenly stunned from the shock of the cold and you drown
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Almost immediately. That's not scary enough or you managed to avoid the cold shock response. You're still not in for a good time
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Even if you're in control of your body to begin with you lose control of your limbs in about ten minutes at water 50 degrees
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or lower in hypothermia
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Your internal body temperature dropping below 95 degrees sets in in under an hour even in the best possible conditions
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So for Elsa to survive even minutes in the north sea waters
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She would have had to have been wearing the equivalent of several immersion water survival seats these big old rubbery looking things
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This means that in water where other people are literally
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Paralyzed and where body temperatures would drop below survivability in a matter of minutes
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Elsa's maintaining a normal internal body temperature and ice surfing with the best of them
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It is unbelievable, but it doesn't freeze her that said do one final location to consider. Dr
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Holland is the glacier of Heinlein that also rides - and what seems like a few minutes from North old Rock
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well initially I wanted to say that this was intended to be Iceland since the crew from frozen - visited Iceland for
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Geographic inspiration a movie. It's just too far north
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Honestly, the closest coast of Iceland is about 900 miles from Hollis food or any part of the Norwegian coast
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which would take a horse even a magic water horse like 40 hours of straight running at top speed with no rest to make our
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Movie travel more realistic. I chose the small island of can't pronounce those letters just off the north coast of Norway
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There's also possibilities like Bear Island up here. But you know, they all function basically about the same
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So just loop them all in as potential otto holland stand-ins interestingly
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All these types of islands tend to have sub-zero temperatures at least nine months out of the year
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Meaning that when Elsa likely lands in hot Holland the temperature is gonna cause water to freeze directly onto her skin
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Immediately on top of that she's facing ocean winds
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which will give her a windchill effect making it feel even colder for her starting at negative five degrees Celsius the average temperature for
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unpronounceable Norwegian Island in November
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We can calculate wind chills for 10 to 30 miles per hour or 16 to 48 km/h at these winds
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Elsa's feel like temperature is gonna be about negative 10 degrees Celsius negative 15 degrees Celsius
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Or 12 degrees Fahrenheit to 5 degrees Fahrenheit, even then there's not even a shiver so we know even at temperatures significantly
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Below freezing. It is still not cold enough to bother so geez
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how cold does it need to be for me to seem like a research dead-end since we can't even guess about the temperature in the
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Magic cave she's in how far she's falling things like that heck inside the cave
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it
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Probably should be warmer because she's not subjected to being wet in the wind that said who's one thing that we can still speculate about
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Elsa herself. What if instead of looking at the air around her the water that she's impossibly swimming through all of that stuff
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What if we stop comparing her to the way that humans freeze and stop assuming that she's human at all instead of assuming that her
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Body functions like a normal person's body
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It might make more sense to assume that it functions like the element that she's associated with ice
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Let's take a look at the moment that Elsa freezes again. We see her jump into the ice chasm to follow her past
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She falls for a couple of seconds and we see her make a quick landing on her hands and fingertips like this a moment
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Later, she hears the truth about what terrible imperialists her
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people were we see her start to freeze again at her fingertips and toes where she landed interestingly it may be the only
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scientifically accurate part of this movie
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Elsa is freezing like ice to better explain what I mean here and what's actually happening to Elsa and how her body functions
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I'm gonna need to flip it to live-action
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Hey film theorists matpat here might not look like it because they have less hair up here more hair down here, but don't worry
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That's what happens when you do a charity livestream and put your hair on the line
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I'll be back to my old self in like t-minus three months. Who knows. Anyway, let's do some real world science
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Shall we back in high school?
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Because you know this is not child-directed content only 13 and up here on this channel
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You may have done yourself a little experiment in the realm of supercooling now
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There are lots of YouTube videos out there on this, but you only trying to license those
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Because they're expensive and doing science myself is really fun and cool. So anyway supercooling is just one of those really nerdy things
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That's fascinating to talk about and even more fascinating to watch in person and frankly
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I just kind of want to try it here since I have the ability and people to film me doing this sort of stuff
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So why not take advantage of that? This is also one of those rare things on YouTube that you can actually do yourself
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It might take a couple of times to get it right, but the idea is to cool a bottle of water
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I'm gonna go get the bottle of water
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I'm gonna take off my microphone and then get the bottle
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Chris is gonna go get the bottle of water. Thank you, Chris
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Hopefully super chilled ready to be crystallized
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now
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The things they got a note here are the water first and foremost needs to be clean and it needs to be left
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Very still no this is because in a freezer water will actually cool below freezing temperatures after a couple hours
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But still have a magic area where it stays in a liquid state because it doesn't have what's called a seed crystal
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Just a couple of crystal structures in the water that ice can form on to now
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There's a lot of complicated math that goes behind seed crystals but for our purposes
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we're gonna think about
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Elsa in frozen to as our little bottle of water here probably could have cut out a face and stuck it on here, right?
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little adele dazeem action figure here
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She looks human right but in the movie because she represents the ice element at a molecular level
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Her body is actually behaving more like freezing water than it does a person now when Elsa falls down in that ice cave and hits
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The bottom we suddenly see her whole body
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Crystallize into an Elsa popsicle kind of like we should see with this experiment ready Dan ready, Chris
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It's gonna land right here ready? Three two one
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And you see see it it's that's going it's going what you're seeing here are water molecules
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so that's suddenly colliding into each other a little seed crystal at the top and all the water molecules hitting into it and
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Glomming on crystallizing into that structure proceeding all the way down into the bottle until now we have mostly ice
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With a little bit of water left over
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How much?
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Not a whole lot
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Okay a little bit more than I expected
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But you can see that as soon as there was a big impact on that bottle
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Disturbing the super chilled water inside of it the entire thing crystallized from the top down to the bottom
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now this happened because when the bottle dropped onto the table
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It sent a shock wave through the liquid
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Literally forcing water molecules to bump into each other through randomness that extra movement eventually results in water
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molecules forming something close to the crystal structure of ice
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Once that happens the water suddenly has the seed crystals that it needs and now more water
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molecules quickly bump into that seed crystal and align themselves into the proper structure
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locking in and freezing almost instantly in
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Elsa's case in frozen 2 we see the
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crystallization or nucleation process as it's cold start from her extremities right her feet and her
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fingertips where she landed on the ground
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but if we were really being
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scientifically accurate would actually start from the top of her head because that is the end of the shock wave that she
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Experienced from falling that said this experiment still provides the best explanation that we have about how an ice queen could freeze to death
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She's not a human who controls ice at a molecular level
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She actually is ice
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herself in a very roundabout way this explanation also helps us understand why Elsa's impervious to cold climates cold air heck even
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Brutal wind chills at a molecular level elsa is effectively colder than all of those things
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She is super cool. Meaning that they're not cooling her. She is the one that's cooling them
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It's science. It's frozen and it is super cool
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literally and figuratively
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Fascinatingly even understanding that else's body functions like a supercooled liquid
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It still doesn't give us a true sense of our molecular temperature according to a 2018 study at the University of Frankfurt in Germany
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Supercooled water could reach temperatures of negative 42 point 5 5 degrees Celsius or negative 44 degrees Fahrenheit
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meaning that Elsa has the potential to achieve a
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massive range of temperatures that would allow her to not only survive the harshest conditions on earth
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But even survive in some places on freezing planets like Mars and all of this
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Actually makes sense in the context of the movie or as convoluted as its lore is just like the earth
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Giants are made of rock. The wind spirit has literally just wind and the waterhorses water just ignore that dumb little cute fyrelizard
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Elsa is made up of the element that she controls if she truly is the fifth elemental creature
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Which honestly she shouldn't be because ice isn't an element that's different from water horse over there
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but still if ice truly is a different element in this world her being
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Supercooled and only freezing from a landing that strikes hard makes perfect sense
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so in an ironic twist Elsa truly is
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Impervious to cold as long as she doesn't get smacked too hard by anything for future reference to all the villains in the inevitable frozen
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3 keep all the swords or guns or flamethrowers or whatever and just give Elsa good ol swamp with a frying pan
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Tangled style organ - a particularly aggressive pillow fight and frankly she is done for don't tell anyone
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I tipped you off though
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Because if you're a regular viewer of this channel, you'll know that Mickey Mouse and I already have ourselves a chilly relationship
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But hey, that's just a theory
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This island that I cannot pronounce nor can I find any online pronunciation guide because it's just really hard to find
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Pronunciations for very small areas. Can I just say for a sorry cut cut the video? Oh you travel logs on YouTube right now
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Why do you not talk in them?
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There are so many
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Norwegian travel logs that I've clicked on as I research this video hoping that someone will teach me how to pronounce the names of these
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Places and all of them are just clips set to music with moderate amounts of text on top
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It's not helping me, please teach me how to pronounce these places not even Wikipedia as a pronunciation guide for this one sore
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Fuglie Ola. I mean look at these letters. What am I supposed to do with this? It's a zero
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It's an O that's been crossed that it's like no. No. Thank you
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Oh, this is an O pronunciation old and geez
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Would you even puts a G there sore folk sore fug Lowa sore fugu, OA
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Can someone watching this video in Norway?
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Can you please upload videos of you?
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Pronouncing sore fug Lua and then link them to me on Twitter matpat GT or in the game theorist subreddit
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And I will try to make a greatest hits compilation of all of them. We'll do a community tab post or something of it
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That'd be great, please teach me how to pronounce or Foglia
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