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Driving 1000 Miles in 3 Cars: Gas vs Electric! - YouTube
Channel: Marques Brownlee
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hey what's up MKBHD here so have you
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ever wondered how much longer it would
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take to do a road trip in an electric
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car versus a gas car in 2021 and does it
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matter which type of electric car you
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take
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it's an interesting question I'm sure
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many of us have wondered this and most
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reasonable people would probably stop
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there but not me nope nope my team and I
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decided to actually find the real answer
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by really doing it and running it like a
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sort of a scientific experiment so you
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know it's one thing to go by the numbers
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on paper which we all have and the
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Chargers on the map which we can all
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look at but it's another thing
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to actually go do it but we're just
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gonna find out we're gonna do this uh
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the hard way by actually going on a
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massive road trip with
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gas cars and electric cars to actually
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put this to the test so it's it's a
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little bit unscientific but we've got a
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set of rules and we've got a route we're
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going to take to make it happen so
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here are the cars first we have Tesla
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Model S plaid you're probably familiar
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I've already done videos about this car
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with the 21 inch wheels on it right here
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it has a 350 mile range on 100 battery
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next to it here we've got
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Ford Mustang Mach e California Route 1
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Edition has about a 305 mile range
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charges out Electrify America Chargers
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and then last but not least we have a
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gas car control this is what's going to
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make the results of the test I think
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pretty interesting so we've got an Audi
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Q5 here on a full tank of gas it'll get
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about
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460 miles of range and uh we're gonna
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start them all from the same place at
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the same time there happens to be a spot
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near our studio with a gas station a
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Tesla Supercharger and Electrify America
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charger we're going to leave with a full
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tank and a full battery all at the same
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time from there we're going to do a
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route
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that hits uh Ithaca New York Lake Placid
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New York Niagara Falls Scranton
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Pennsylvania we're going to do this
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whole circle you've probably already
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seen a lot of this on Twitter by the
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time this video goes up but we've got
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members we got the whole team most of
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the team here we're going to be in these
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cars probably trash talking a little bit
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and turning into a bit of a race but to
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see exactly how much time charging at
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these different infrastructures adds to
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a road trip so
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mile one of a thousand starts now so
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yeah that's it pretty simple the goal
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just treat it like a normal road trip
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you're obviously trying to go around the
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loop as fast as possible but two rules
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one no speeding we have a hard cap limit
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to our speed for all the cars that's the
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same but two uh just hit all the
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waypoints just get all the pictures we
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want out of all those different
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waypoints until you do the Thousand
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Miles we added an overnight break for
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sanity so we have a hotel in Niagara
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Falls to break the trip into two days
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but everyone wakes up on the second day
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with the same state of charge that they
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want to sleep with and we'll add up all
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the time Deltas at the end so at this
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point you know the route you know the
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cars go ahead and guess how you think it
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went go ahead and guess what you think
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happened what order did the cars come in
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and how far apart did they finish the
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Thousand Miles now go ahead and tell you
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right off the bat your guess about the
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order of the cars the way they finish
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one two three
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probably correct your guess about how
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far apart they finished
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probably wrong so we're putting together
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a whole video on this road trip
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experience on the studio channel so if
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you want all the details and every
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single thing that happened at each stop
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to each team if you want to go on the
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road trip with us go ahead and hit the
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Subscribe button to the studio channel
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to see that when it comes out but this
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video is the breakdown of exactly what
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happened so the gas car the gas car had
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the most predictable trip right so they
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stopped for five minutes for a break and
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gas on the way up to Lake Placid got
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there in 4 hours 49 minutes then they
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took two short breaks on the way to
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Niagara Falls one was 20 minutes for
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food and then the other was 10 minutes
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for gas and using the bathroom that was
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their day one they arrived at Niagara
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Falls at 11 hours 8 minutes so then the
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Tesla trip took off at the same time
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right off the bat it gets interesting I
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was driving and I decided to be kind of
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bold and go all the way from the
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starting point to Lake Placid up those
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mountains on one charge without stopping
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we actually passed by the sign without
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stopping to take a picture because our
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battery was so low that we weren't sure
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if we were going to make it but we did
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make it to the top and there's a
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supercharger up there I had one mile
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remaining on the battery but that was
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our first stop for half an hour where we
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got some snacks we got passed by the gas
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car but then we doubled back a bit to
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take a photo of the sign and then headed
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over to Niagara Falls and we stopped two
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more times to charge on the way once for
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46 minutes were actually filled up the
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battery and another quick eight minute
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stop for safety before arriving at
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Niagara Falls with about 70 miles left
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on the battery in almost exactly 12
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hours then the Mustang Maki okay so they
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headed up towards Lake Placid along with
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the Tesla again at the same time but
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with the smallest Range they had to pull
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off first and the car routed them to an
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evolved New York charger that was out of
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order so with 36 miles on the battery
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they had no choice but to head the wrong
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direction into Vermont to the nearest
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available charger there they had to sit
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for almost two hours before they left
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with enough battery and at this point
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they had gone so far out of the way and
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they're so far behind that they just
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decided they could just skip Lake Placid
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just to make it to Niagara before the
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end of the day so that's what they did
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they skipped it and went straight across
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West they hit one more charger for 41
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minutes which brought them to near 80
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battery then at 9 30 they arrived at
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another charger stop
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that was also broken so they navigated
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for another half hour to find another
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charger this turned out to be a barely
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working trickle charger where it only
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added two percent to their battery so
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they drove another half hour
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precariously to an Electrify America
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charger where they arrived at five
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percent left and this one worked
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perfectly for 46 minutes which gave them
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enough juice to finally get to Niagara
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Falls by 12 40 in the morning after 16
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hours and 40 minutes on the road that's
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about five hours behind the gas car so
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that first leg taught us a lot so we're
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sitting about 650 miles in at this point
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the gas cars you probably predicted is
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in first place the Tesla as you may have
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also predicted is in second it's about
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half an hour behind after this first leg
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and the Maki in third is now about five
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hours behind so I mean we've seen we've
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seen we've read the articles before of
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horror stories of charging trying to do
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a road trip in a Porsche Thai can
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getting to a broken charger and all
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we've seen that online in the past but
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now that it's happening to this team as
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we're doing it it's a whole other thing
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to actually live through it and actually
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both the the members of that Maki team
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are EV drivers now in an attempt to even
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it out a bit on the second day uh the
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the gas car in the Tesla wouldn't really
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change much but team mock e would Now
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operate under their Newfound knowledge
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that the in-car navigation on the Ford
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could not be trusted so they would be
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using their own apps they would be
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essentially trying to only hit Electrify
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America chargers for this leg of the
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trip ignore what the car tells you to
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navigate to ignore the Ford approved
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stops because that clearly didn't work
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last time they're just going to do it on
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their own more advanced way
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and that shocker went much better so all
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cars took off at the same time again and
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the gas car went straight to the Cornell
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clock then after that photo they took a
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short 10 minute gas stop and then an
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hour later took another quick 10 minute
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food break didn't even add gas during
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that stop just stopped to eat then it
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went straight to Scranton for the paper
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building photo then all the way to the
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Finish no range concerns at all no
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problem this second leg took them 7
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hours 51 minutes so the Tesla the Tesla
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arrived at Niagara with pretty low
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battery 70 miles left so we actually
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started off going right to a charging
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stop at Cheektowaga 15 minute stop there
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then we drove to another supercharger at
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Ithaca for 25 more minutes of charging
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then from there we got the Ithaca photo
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and then went all the way down to
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Scranton took that photo and then took
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one last charging and food stop at
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Bartonsville which gave us plenty more
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than enough to get home in our total
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which was eight hours which was pretty
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impressively less than an hour behind
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the gas car again then the Machi with
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their Newfound confidence in only using
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Electrify America Chargers this time had
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a much better time today so they went to
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Waterloo for their first charge where
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the first charger didn't work but the
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second one did and they charged for 32
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minutes here then they got to Ithaca
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took their Cornell photo then they drove
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to Scranton with one brief coffee break
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in the middle
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then nearby stopped at another EA
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charger where three of the four Chargers
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didn't work but the last one did so they
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charged there for 32 minutes and made
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their way back to the studio just about
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half an hour behind the Tesla so for a
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total of 8 hours 49 minutes so the order
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was still the same but the day two
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Deltas were a bit smaller so I'd say I
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learned a few things from this whole
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Thousand Mile Road Trip actually things
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that we we kind of already knew but that
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are much more crystallized now that
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we've gone through it now to answer the
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question straight from the beginning how
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much time does switching to Electric
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actually add to the road trip first of
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all I want to acknowledge that there are
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plenty of different variables that could
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contribute to some of the Deltas not
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only could I have used a different car
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or different wheels for a different
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range on each of them but there are also
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things like different traffic different
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amounts of time taking photos at the
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waypoints different navigation routes
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and habits and things like that so I'm
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gonna I'm just gonna give like a plus or
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minus 10 percent
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Delta just on how long these things took
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so at the end we got the Tesla added one
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hour 32 minutes
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per thousand miles of road tripping it's
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really not bad and the Mustang Maki
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added 7 hours and 32 minutes although
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six and a half hours of that was on the
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first day and then it was an hour and
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three minutes on day two so I think it's
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safe to say that if you do a lot of road
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trips uh the Tesla Road Trip experience
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is currently pretty far ahead of any
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other electric car especially here where
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we did the test in the U.S but not for
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the reason you might be thinking like
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there's a couple variables in here and
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part of it is the slightly longer range
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of the car sure and part of it is the
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supercharger Network versus the other
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networks used by the Machi sure but the
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biggest thing that contributed to our
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results was the accuracy of the
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information displayed in the car so for
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range differences it's actually
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interesting it seems like the Tesla goes
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by the max EPA estimated rating they can
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possibly quote which is mostly based on
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highway driving and there's even some
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other official ratings in Europe there's
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a wltp rating which has different ratios
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of City mixed in with Highway there's
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another called nedc but generally I've
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found that achieving Tesla's quoted
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range would require pretty much perfect
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conditions perfect weather perfect
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temperature outside perfect roads
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perfect traffic not driving too fast you
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pretty much never get it perfect so the
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Plaid model less that I've been driving
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that we use for this test has a full
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battery rating of 345 miles on those
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Wheels it's right between the long range
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model 3 and Long Range model y but I
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would never ever attempt to try to reach
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a charger 345 miles away because as
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you're driving you can see the range
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dropping off of the battery faster than
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you're covering them on the road matter
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of fact on the first leg of that trip we
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just did we went from the studio up to
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Lake Placid that went from 345 miles
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full battery all the way down to one
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mile left when we pulled in 0.3 percent
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battery
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and that was only a 293 mile trip so
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that's a 15 difference between the range
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you're quoted on paper with perfect
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conditions and what we actually got and
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I feel like all Tesla owners I know have
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really started to calibrate for this
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like if your car says you have 40 miles
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left you better get to a charger in the
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next 30 miles or so like that's just the
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way it is especially in Winter or if
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it's particularly cold You know despite
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the new heat pump it doesn't take zero
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energy to get the battery to the
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temperature it likes so that's just the
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Tesla range and efficiency Factor now
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the Mustang Mach e on the other hand
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very very consistent with the number
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being displayed on the dash and the
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range you actually got it actually
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consistently outperformed that number
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just a little bit which leads me to
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believe Ford isn't quoting the maximum
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EPA rated range possible and we found
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this to be true of some other electric
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cars too the Porsche taikan is one that
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actually consistently way outperforms
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its quoted range by a pretty big margin
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and you might remember also Ford told me
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their F-150 Lightning their quoted range
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will be with a thousand pounds of cargo
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in the trunk so it may even go further
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when it's empty so these are all
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different ways of going about quoted
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range but I think the general philosophy
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you're seeing with the Fords and
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Porsches of the world is under promise
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over deliver just so your customer
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doesn't have to worry too much about the
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range that they say they're going to get
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in the car but here's the the crazy part
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of all this is Tesla Model S plaid on
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those 21s 345 miles of quoted range Ford
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Mustang Mach e California Route 1
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Edition 305 miles of coated range
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I would expect those cars to go about
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the same distance some to think about so
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the Tesla may have a bit more range
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sometimes but that clearly doesn't make
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nearly as much of a difference as the
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infrastructure or the charging Network
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to fast charge and go on road trips now
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if you don't go on road trips that much
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none of this may really matter to you
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and your ownership experience and that's
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fine but if you do the Tesla
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Supercharger network is built and owned
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by Tesla and it's built to the exact
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spec of their cars works great with them
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and then there's every other EV and all
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the other public charging networks that
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kind of all have somewhat variable
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experiences I kind of think of it a
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little bit like lightning versus USB
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type c so right now today there are
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about 1100 Tesla Supercharger stations
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in the US and they're mostly along major
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roads either at rest stops or in mall
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parking lots around food things like
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that and then with the mock e you will
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use the fordpass charging Network and if
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you look on Ford's website for the Maki
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it says that that's the large just
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public charging Network in North America
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offered by a car manufacturer which is
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it feels like they're trying to Loop in
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a couple different things there to make
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that statement true they definitely want
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to be able to say they've got the
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biggest network but it's a public
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network too and it's clearly it's not
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built by Ford and so the Ford pass
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network is looping in a bunch of
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different other public charging networks
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into one it streamlines the payment
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experience so you only need one forward
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pass account it's convenient for the
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buyer but that includes about 600
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Electrify America super fast Chargers
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some of them up to 350 kilowatts when
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the car supports it that's amazing but
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that also includes some slow Chargers
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some offline Chargers some out of order
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broken Chargers and that's the
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difference and because these Chargers
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aren't built by Ford they aren't managed
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directly by Ford there's a bit of a
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communication gap between when one of
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them might go down and that info Nation
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actually showing up to the driver in the
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car usually doesn't know until he gets
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there so the difference is literally
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when I sit down to plan a road trip in
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the Tesla on the screen I'm getting all
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of my information this is what they've
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done so well with their software it's
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telling me whether or not I can make it
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to my destination on one charge if I
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can't it's going to route me through
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superchargers along the way it tells me
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how long I need to charge at the
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supercharger to continue my trip and how
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much battery it'll leave me with when I
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arrive but even better yet for each
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charger it tells me how many stalls
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there are the speed of the Chargers how
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many are out of order and how many are
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literally currently being occupied by
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other cars charging right now Ford is
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able to tell you about as much as they
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know but they often don't know if there
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are charges that are down or broken or
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offline or something which is what
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happened during our trip the trip in the
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car navigated them to a charger that was
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offline I think it was for maintenance
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it was being updated or something but
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that would have been really really bad
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if they'd arrived there with like one
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mile of battery left like I did when I
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arrived at Lake Placid knowing trusting
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that the superchargers would be there
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and working that's the difference I
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could really trust what was being shown
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in the car and when I arrived there I'd
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have charges available and that's just
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not the case in the Ford so I kind of
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felt like if lightning is the Tesla
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Supercharger Network it's tightly
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controlled by Apple the same way the
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Tesla Supercharger network is tightly
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controlled and you have the vertical
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integration and that helps the
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experience but then on the other side
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there's USB type c a more open standard
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kind of like CCS which is the charger
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but like there's some that are faster
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there are some that are slower and
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there's a whole mix in between so it's
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just I'm getting in the weeds but that's
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what it reminded me of but then last FAQ
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I know we were wondering what's the cost
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difference actually between these two
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trips electricity is typically cheaper
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than gas after all but how much cheaper
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so I wrote this down all the cars
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started from roughly 100 like we said
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leaving that initial stop the gas car
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spent
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84.79 during their their trip just on
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gas the Tesla which had free
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supercharging credit but I went back and
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calculated how much it would have cost
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66.35 and then the Mach e same idea we
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had forward pass charging credit but we
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used about
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61.25 of that credit so they all charge
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per kilowatt it was something around 30
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to 35 cents per kilowatt so overall
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take from this what you will you you
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might not be someone who does road trips
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like I said and a big part of the
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electric car owning experience is like
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starting every day with 100 battery in
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your garage that's a totally different
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part of this but if you do a lot of
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people do frequent road trips maybe an
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annual road trip maybe even more than
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that then you start to think about this
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stuff and the situation is also
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constantly changing we're constantly
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going to be getting faster and faster
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Chargers we're going to get more
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Chargers all over the world we're also
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going to get longer and longer ranges in
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these EVs and so I'd be curious if we
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did another one of these tests in a year
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or two how it would fare you know the
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4680 batteries are around the corner
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allegedly for some of these cars so
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we'll see but again if you want to see
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how this entire experience actually went
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if you want to feel like you're going
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along the road trip with us Studio
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Channel link below is where you should
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go for that but in the meantime I'm
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curious now that you've seen this now
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that you know
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I want to know what you think your next
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car purchase will be do you think it
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will be a gas car or an electric car
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we'll use the comment section as like a
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polling if you want to tell us why let
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me know why but if you think your next
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car whenever that is will be gas for
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electric all right that's been it thanks
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for watching this experiment talk to you
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guys in the next one peace
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