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Judge Faith - Love Don't Live Here Anymore; $24/Month Rent (Season 1: Episode #135) - YouTube
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ANNOUNCER: TODAY ON "JUDGE
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FAITH"...
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>> I SENT A TEXT TO HER: "I'M
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DONE. I'M OUT."
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>> YEAH. HE WAS PRETTY MUCH A
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COWARD.
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JUDGE: THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STILL
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ON PLENTY OF FISH.
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ANNOUNCER: A RELATIONSHIP ENDS,
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AND THE PROBLEMS BEGIN.
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JUDGE: YOU NEVER SAID YOU'D GIVE
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HER THE MONEY BACK FOR THE
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TICKETS?
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>> NO.
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JUDGE: NEVER EVER ONCE?
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>> NO.
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>> HE'S LYING.
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ANNOUNCER: AND LATER, THIS
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TENANT GOT FORCED OUT.
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>> I HAD NO IDEA--
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>> WAIT A MINUTE.
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JUDGE: HOLD ON A SECOND.
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>> WHETHER OR NOT I HAD TO MOVE
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TOMORROW, TODAY, BECAUSE THIS
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GUY HAS GOT ME IN THE BLIND.
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ANNOUNCER: AND THE LANDLORD IS
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TRYING TO COLLECT.
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JUDGE: DO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR,
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WHAT SECTION 8 HOUSING IS FOR?
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>> YES.
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JUDGE: IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO
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CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY $960.
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ANNOUNCER: FAITH JENKINS. HER
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DISTINGUISHED LEGAL CAREER BEGAN
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WHEN SHE GRADUATED FIRST IN HER
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LAW SCHOOL CLASS. SHE QUICKLY
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BECAME A TOUGH NEW YORK CITY
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PROSECUTOR AND THEN A PREEMINENT
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LEGAL ANALYST ON CABLE NEWS, AND
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NOW SHE'S THE JUDGE IN HER OWN
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COURTROOM. HER CASES ARE REAL,
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AND HER RULINGS ARE FINAL. SHE
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IS JUDGE FAITH.
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PLAINTIFF DEBBRECA HARRIS IS
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SUING HER EX-BOYFRIEND FOR AN
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UNPAID LOAN AND BAIL MONEY SHE
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PAID TO GET HIM OUT OF JAIL.
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DEFENDANT JEFFREY WILSON SAYS
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THE PLAINTIFF OFFERED TO PAY HIS
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BAIL AND COVER SOME OF HIS DEBT.
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HE SAYS THE ONLY REASON SHE
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WANTS THE MONEY IS BECAUSE HE
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BROKE OFF THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
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BARBARA: REMAIN SEATED AND COME
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TO ORDER. COURT IS NOW IN
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SESSION. THE HONORABLE JUDGE
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FAITH JENKINS PRESIDING.
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YOUR HONOR, THIS CASE IS HARRIS
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VS. WILSON.
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JUDGE: THANK YOU, BARBARA.
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DEBBRECA HARRIS?
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HARRIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
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JUDGE: YOU ARE SUING THE
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DEFENDANT JEFFREY WILSON FOR
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$2,304 FOR AN UNPAID LOAN AND
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BAIL MONEY?
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HARRIS: YES.
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JUDGE: YOU WANT TO BE REIMBURSED
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FOR?
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HARRIS: YES.
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JUDGE: OK, WHY DON'T WE START
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FROM THE BEGINNING? I UNDERSTAND
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YOU USED TO DATE THE DEFENDANT?
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THAT'S HOW THE TWO OF YOU KNOW
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EACH OTHER?
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HARRIS: YES, YOUR HONOR.
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JUDGE: OK. WHEN DID YOU MEET
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HIM?
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HARRIS: I MET JEFFREY IN OCTOBER
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OF 2013. WE MET ON AN ONLINE
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DATING SITE.
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JUDGE: WHICH SITE?
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HARRIS: UH, PLENTY OF FISH.
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JUDGE: OK. THAT SEEMS TO BE A
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POPULAR SITE THESE DAYS.
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HARRIS: YEAH.
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JUDGE: DID HE LOOK LIKE HIS
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PROFILE PHOTO?
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HARRIS: HE DID.
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[LAUGHTER]
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YEAH.
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WE HIT IT OFF PRETTY GOOD. WE
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WENT OUT ON DATES, WENT TO THE
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MOVIES, SPENT TIME TOGETHER.
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JUDGE: SO THE RELATIONSHIP WAS
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GOING WELL AT THAT POINT?
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HARRIS: IT WENT WELL.
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WILSON: YEAH, THE RELATIONSHIP
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WAS GOING PRETTY GOOD IN THE
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BEGINNING, BUT AS TIME WENT ON,
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YOU KNOW, I JUST--I WASN'T
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GETTING FULFILLMENT, SO I WANTED
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OUT. I SENT A TEXT SAYING,
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"I'M DONE. I'M OUT."
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JUDGE: YOU SENT HER A TEXT
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MESSAGE?
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WILSON: YEAH. "I'M OUT."
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[AUDIENCE MURMURS]
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JUDGE: REALLY?
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HARRIS: YEAH. HE WAS PRETTY MUCH
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A COWARD. HE COULD NOT CALL ME
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NOR FACE TO FACE, SO...
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[APPLAUSE]
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PRETTY MUCH HE--HE SENT ME A
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TEXT MESSAGE SAYING THAT, UH...
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JUDGE: AND HOW OLD ARE YOU, SIR?
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HOW OLD ARE YOU?
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WILSON: I'M 48.
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JUDGE: YOU'RE 48?
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THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STILL ON
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PLENTY OF FISH, BECAUSE YOU
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DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
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RELATIONSHIPS.
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WILSON: AIN'T [INDISTINCT] NO
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MORE.
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HARRIS: I HAVE THE EMAIL WHERE
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HE SENT THE MESSAGE SAYING THAT
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HE WASN'T FEELING THE
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RELATIONSHIP.
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JUDGE: HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN
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DATING BEFORE YOU SENT HER THE
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"DEAR JOHN" EMAIL?
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WILSON: 7 MONTHS.
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JUDGE: WERE THE TWO OF YOU
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LIVING TOGETHER?
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HARRIS: NO. WE WERE ACTUALLY
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LOOKING AT HOUSES BECAUSE WE HAD
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TALKED ABOUT MARRIAGE AS WELL AS
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LOOKING AT--TO PURCHASE A
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PROPERTY. WE DID, LIKE--WE WERE
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GONNA DO, LIKE, A LEASE-TO-
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PURCHASE BECAUSE HIS CREDIT WAS
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NOT THE BEST, SO WE LOOKED AT--
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WILSON: COME ON, DEBBRECA. DON'T
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DO THAT.
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HARRIS: NO.
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WILSON: NO.
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JUDGE: WHAT WAS THE REASON?
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HARRIS: IT'S THE TRUTH.
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WILSON: SHE HAD TWO
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FORECLOSURES.
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JUDGE: OK, SO LISTEN. THE TWO OF
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YOU WERE LOOKING FOR HOMES
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TOGETHER, TO MOVE IN TOGETHER?
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WILSON: YEAH.
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JUDGE: YOU HAD DISCUSSED
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MARRIAGE.
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WILSON: POSSIBLY.
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JUDGE: SO YOU POSSIBLY HAD A
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DISCUSSION, AND YOU'RE GOING TO
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LOOK AT HOMES, AND WHAT ENDS UP
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HAPPENING, MA'AM?
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HARRIS: WE HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT
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I WOULD LOAN HIM $1,500 TO CLEAR
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SOME THINGS UP OFF OF HIS CREDIT
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SO THAT WHEN IT WAS TIME TO
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APPLY FOR A LOAN THAT WE WOULD
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BE ABLE TO GET THE LOAN.
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JUDGE: DID YOU GET THAT IN
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WRITING?
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HARRIS: I DID.
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JUDGE: OH. LET ME SEE THAT.
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HARRIS: I HAVE A PROMISSORY
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NOTE. I TOLD HIM UPFRONT THAT
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THIS WAS NOT PERSONAL, THAT
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THIS IS A BUSINESS TRANSACTION.
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JUDGE: OK. MAY I SEE WHAT YOU
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PUT IN WRITING?
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HARRIS: SO I DO HAVE THE
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PROMISSORY NOTE.
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JUDGE: AND SO THE LOAN WAS SO HE
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COULD CLEAR UP HIS CREDIT.
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HARRIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
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JUDGE: AND THE TWO OF YOU COULD
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BUY A HOME TOGETHER?
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HARRIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
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JUDGE: SIR?
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WILSON: PARTIALLY CORRECT.
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JUDGE: I'M SORRY.
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WILSON: PARTIALLY CORRECT
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BECAUSE IT WASN'T--I TOOK--I
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TOOK THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF
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OTHER EXPENSES--THAT'S CORRECT--
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SOME CREDIT-WISE, AND SOME BILLS
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I HAD.
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JUDGE: BUT YOU DON'T DISPUTE
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ACCEPTING THE $1,500?
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WILSON: NO, I DON'T.
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JUDGE: OK. WHO DRAFTED THIS
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AGREEMENT?
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HARRIS: I DID.
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JUDGE: WOW, THIS IS, LIKE, TWO
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PAGES. YOU WERE SERIOUS...
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HARRIS: SERIOUS.
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JUDGE: ABOUT YOUR MONEY. YOU
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GIVE HIM $1,500. WHAT HAPPENS
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AFTER THAT?
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HARRIS: WE START LOOKING AT
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PROPERTIES. UM, WE--WE FOUND A
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HOUSE, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE
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WERE GOING TO PUT A CONTRACT IN
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ON THE HOUSE. WE WENT TO THE
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REAL-ESTATE OFFICE TO PUT THE
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CONTRACT IN, BUT ONCE WE GOT
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THERE, WE FOUND OUT IT WAS, UM--
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WE WERE JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF
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THEY WOULD ACCEPT THE OFFER, SO
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WE SIGNED A PAPER TO SEE IF
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THEY'LL ACCEPT THE OFFER. UM,
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WHEN WE WERE LEAVING THE, UM,
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REAL-ESTATE OFFICE, UM, HE MADE
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A U-TURN, UH, LEAVING THE--THE
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PARKING LOT, AND THE POLICE
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PULLED HIM OVER FOR MAKING A
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U-TURN.
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JUDGE: YOU WERE IN THE CAR?
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HARRIS: OR WHAT APPEARED TO BE A
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U-TURN. IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A
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U-TURN.
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JUDGE: WERE YOU IN THE CAR WITH
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HIM?
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HARRIS: I WAS IN THE CAR WITH
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HIM.
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JUDGE: SO, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE
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POLICE PULL YOU OVER?
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WILSON: THE POLICE PULLED ME
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OVER. THEY ASKED FOR MY LICENSE.
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THEY RAN MY PLATES, AND THEY
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TOLD ME I HAD TWO WARRANTS.
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JUDGE: OH, SO THEY ARRESTED YOU
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RIGHT THEN AND THERE?
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WILSON: ARRESTED ME RIGHT THEN
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AND THERE.
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JUDGE: WHAT WERE THE WARRANTS
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FOR?
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WILSON: TRAFFIC TICKETS. OLD
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TRAFFIC TICKETS.
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JUDGE: THAT YOU HADN'T PAID, AND
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YOU HADN'T SHOWED UP TO COURT,
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AND NOW YOU HAVE WARRANTS.
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WILSON: YEAH. RIGHT.
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JUDGE: SO YOU GOT ARRESTED. THEY
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TAKE YOU, PUT YOU IN JAIL.
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WILSON: RIGHT.
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JUDGE: AND THEY SET--DID THEY
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SET A BAIL OR BOND FOR YOU? HOW
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MUCH?
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WILSON: YEAH. IT WAS, UH...
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$946 FOR TWO TICKETS.
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JUDGE: SO WHO DO YOU CALL WHEN
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YOU'RE IN JAIL?
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WILSON: I CALLED MY DAUGHTER.
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JUDGE: WHO ELSE DID YOU CALL?
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DID YOU CALL HER?
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WILSON: I PROBABLY DID. I CAN'T
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REMEMBER.
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JUDGE: YOU CAN'T REMEMBER? YOU
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CAN'T REMEMBER WHETHER YOU
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CALLED YOUR GIRLFRIEND FROM
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JAIL? YOU CAN'T REMEMBER?
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WILSON: YEAH, I DID. OK. I DID.
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JUDGE: OK, SO WHEN YOU CALLED
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HER, WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION?
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WILSON: I SAID, "THIS IS WHAT I
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OWE," AND SHE SAID, "WELL, I'LL
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TAKE CARE OF IT." SHE TOLD MY
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DAUGHTER.
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JUDGE: NO. NO. YOU HAVE A
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CONVERSATION WITH HER WHEN
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YOU'RE IN JAIL.
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WILSON: RIGHT.
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JUDGE: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO HER?
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"I OWE $946."
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WILSON: I SAID, "I OWE $600 TO
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[INDISTINCT] AND I OWE I THINK
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$300 OR $400 TO BELLFLOWER"--
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TWO DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
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JUDGE: MM-HMM.
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WILSON: AND I SAID, UH, "THEY'RE
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GONNA HAVE TO BE PAID IN ORDER
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FOR ME TO GET OUT."
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JUDGE: OK.
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WILSON: SO SHE OFFERED TO PAY
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THEM.
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JUDGE: OK, AND WHAT DID YOU SAY
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IN RESPONSE TO THAT?
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WILSON: I SAID OK.
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JUDGE: WHAT DO YOU SAY THE
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CONVERSATION WAS?
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HARRIS: WHEN THEY GOT READY TO
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TAKE HIM TO JAIL, HE SAID, "I'M
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GONNA NEED YOU TO COME AND GET
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ME OUT OF JAIL." HE SAID, "I'LL
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PAY YOU YOUR MONEY BACK ONCE I
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GET MY CHECK, MY NEXT CHECK.
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I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK."
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JUDGE: DID YOU SAY THAT?
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WILSON: NO.
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JUDGE: YOU NEVER SAID YOU'D GIVE
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HER THE MONEY BACK FOR THE
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TICKETS? NEVER EVER ONCE?
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WILSON: NO.
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HARRIS: HE'S LYING. I ALSO HAVE
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THE EMAIL WHERE HE SAID THAT HE
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WAS GONNA PAY ME FOR THE
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TICKETS.
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JUDGE: OH, SO IT'S IN THE EMAIL
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THAT YOU ALREADY SUBMITTED
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TO THE COURT. YOU SAY IN THE
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EMAIL--YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
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$1,500, AND THEN YOU SAY, "AS
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FAR AS THE $946 I OWE YOU FOR
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THE TICKETS..." YOU DON'T
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REMEMBER WRITING THAT?
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WILSON: NO, I DON'T REMEMBER
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THAT.
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JUDGE: REALLY?
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WILSON: NO.
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[LAUGHTER]
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JUDGE: HERE. I'LL SHOW YOU THE
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EMAIL.
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WILSON: THIS IS ALL ABOUT
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BECAUSE I WON'T GIVE HER
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NO MORE MOJO.
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[AUDIENCE WHOOPS]
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HARRIS: MOJO? REALLY?
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WILSON: MAN, I DON'T REMEMBER
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WRITING THAT.
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JUDGE: YOU DON'T REMEMBER, OR
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YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT? WHICH ONE
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IS IT?
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WILSON: I DON'T REMEMBER.
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ANNOUNCER: COMING UP ON "JUDGE
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FAITH," IS THIS A CASE OF A
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JEALOUS EX-LOVER?
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JUDGE: I DON'T CARE THAT YOU SAY
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THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SHE
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HAS IN WRITING THAT YOU OWE HER
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MONEY. WHAT'S YOUR DEFENSE?
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WILSON: THE ISSUE NEVER CAME UP
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WHILE WE WERE TOGETHER.
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JUDGE: SHE'S MAD BECAUSE YOU'RE
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DATING SOMEBODY ELSE?
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ANNOUNCER: AND LATER, JUDGE
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FAITH HAS HAD ENOUGH.
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>> HE'S THE ONE THAT LIVED IN
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THE UNIT.
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JUDGE: AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT
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COULD NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT
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WITH SECTION 8 OVER HOW MUCH HE
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COULD PAY.
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[APPLAUSE]
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ANNOUNCER: PLAINTIFF DEBBRECA
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HARRIS CLAIMS SHE LOANED MONEY
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TO HER EX-BOYFRIEND TO HELP WITH
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HIS DEBT AND BAIL HIM OUT OF
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JAIL. SHE'S SUING FOR THE MONEY
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SHE LOANED HIM.
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DEFENDANT JEFFREY WILSON SAYS
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THE PLAINTIFF IS UPSET WITH HIM
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FOR BREAKING OFF THE
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RELATIONSHIP AND ONLY WANTS THE
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MONEY OUT OF SPITE.
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JUDGE: SO YOU DIDN'T WRITE, "I
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AM SURE BY NOW YOU WONDER WHY WE
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HAVE NOT SPOKEN. WELL, TO BE
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HONEST, I'M NOT FEELING THIS
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RELATIONSHIP."
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WILSON: NO, I SAID THAT.
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JUDGE: OK. SO THIS IS YOUR
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EMAIL, SIR. AS MUCH AS YOU WANT
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ME TO BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T WRITE
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THIS, YOU DON'T REMEMBER IT--
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WILSON: THIS IS ALL ABOUT
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BECAUSE I GOT A NEW WOMAN AND
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SHE MAD.
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JUDGE: SO SHE'S MAD BECAUSE OF
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WHAT?
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WILSON: BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO
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BE WITH HER.
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JUDGE: OK.
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WILSON: THAT'S WHAT THIS IS
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ABOUT.
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HARRIS: BECAUSE YOU'RE A LIAR.
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JUDGE: BUT HERE--HERE'S THE
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THING. I DON'T CARE THAT YOU SAY
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THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SHE
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HAS IN WRITING THAT YOU OWE HER
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MONEY. WHAT'S YOUR DEFENSE?
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SHE'S MAD BECAUSE YOU'RE DATING
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SOMEBODY ELSE?
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WILSON: THAT'S WHAT THIS IS
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ABOUT. THE ISSUE NEVER CAME UP
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WHILE WE WERE TOGETHER.
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JUDGE: OH, WELL. IT'S COMING UP
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NOW, AND SHE HAS IT IN WRITING.
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WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?
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WHAT'S YOUR DEFENSE TO NOT
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PAYING HER THE MONEY BACK?
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WILSON: I AIN'T GOT NO DEFENSE.
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JUDGE: WHY DID YOU BREAK UP WITH
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HER IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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WILSON: WHY?
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JUDGE: YEAH.
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WILSON: I WASN'T FEELING IT NO
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MORE. I WASN'T FULFILLED. I
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JUST--IT WASN'T THERE. I'M NOT
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GONNA STRING HER ALONG, ALONG,
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ALONG. I JUST SAID, "WELL, I'M
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OUT."
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JUDGE: RIGHT, SO YOU'RE JUST
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GONNA DO THE MANLY THING AND
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SEND HER AN EMAIL TELLING HER
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THAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER?
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[APPLAUSE]
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WILSON: I COULD HAVE CALLED HER.
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I COULD HAVE HANDLED IT
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DIFFERENT THAN I DID. I
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APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
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HARRIS: JUDGE JENKINS, I ALSO
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HAVE A VOICEMAIL MESSAGE THAT HE
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SENT...
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JUDGE: OH, OK.
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HARRIS: SAYING THAT HE WOULD PAY
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ME THE MONEY, AS WELL.
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JUDGE: OH. WELL, LET ME HEAR
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THAT.
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[WILSON LAUGHS]
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WILSON: HEY, DEBBRE, I KNOW
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YOU'RE MAD THAT I WOULDN'T PAY
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YOUR MONEY, BECAUSE YOU HELPED
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ME, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. I GOT
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YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. I'M GONNA
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PUT SOME IN [INDISTINCT] I'M
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GONNA PUT IN THERE. YOU WILL BE
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GETTING YOUR MONEY. THAT'S FOR
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SURE. I PROMISE YOU THAT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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JUDGE: WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO
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THAT, SIR?
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[LAUGHTER]
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WILSON: THAT'S ME.
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JUDGE: THAT'S YOU?
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WILSON: THAT'S ME.
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JUDGE: YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE.
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WILSON: I REMEMBER THAT.
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JUDGE: OK. ALL RIGHT. HAS HE
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PAID YOU ANY OF THIS MONEY BACK?
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HARRIS: HE DID MAKE TWO PAYMENTS
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OF $125.
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JUDGE: LET ME TELL YOU
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SOMETHING. HIM BREAKING UP WITH
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YOU WAS PROBABLY THE BEST THING
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THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU.
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THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
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[APPLAUSE]
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BECAUSE YOU'RE A PIECE OF WORK.
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YOU SAY THAT IN MAY OF 2014, YOU
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GOT IN A NEW RELATIONSHIP...
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WILSON: RIGHT.
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JUDGE: AND THAT A MONTH LATER,
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YOU GOT A FACEBOOK MESSAGE FROM
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MS. DEBBRECA.
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WILSON: RIGHT.
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JUDGE: AND THE REASON WHY YOU
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DIDN'T WANT TO PAY HER BACK--
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YOU FELT LIKE THIS WAS ALL OUT
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OF SPITE EVEN THOUGH YOU KNEW
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YOU OWED HER THE MONEY.
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WILSON: RIGHT.
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JUDGE: DID YOU RESPOND TO THIS
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EMAIL THAT HE SENT YOU IN MAY?
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HARRIS: I SIMPLY SAID, "OK."
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JUDGE: GOOD FOR YOU.
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HARRIS: I HAD NO OTHER RESPONSE
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THAN OK.
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JUDGE: YOU OWE HER $2,250, SIR.
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JUDGMENT IN THIS CASE IS FOR THE
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PLAINTIFF. GOOD LUCK.
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[APPLAUSE]
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ANNOUNCER: PLAINTIFF HENRY
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PARKER JR. SAYS HIS FORMER
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LANDLORD WAS CONSTANTLY
[663]
ARGUMENTATIVE WHILE LIVING AT
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HIS RENTAL PROPERTY. HE'S SUING
[667]
FOR THE RETURN OF A SECURITY
[668]
DEPOSIT.
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DEFENDANT KEVIN SMALLS CLAIMS
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THE PLAINTIFF NEVER PAID IN
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FULL, AND IS COUNTERSUING FOR
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BACK RENT AND DAMAGES TO THE
[676]
PROPERTY.
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JUDGE: HENRY PARKER JR.?
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PARKER: THAT'S ME. GOOD EVENING,
[680]
YOUR HONOR.
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JUDGE: GOOD EVENING. YOU'RE
[682]
SUING THE DEFENDANT, KEVIN
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SMALLS, FOR $1,920, THE RETURN
[687]
OF YOUR SECURITY DEPOSIT?
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PARKER: THAT'S CORRECT.
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JUDGE: AND YOU ARE COUNTERSUING,
[690]
SIR, FOR $4,908 FOR BACK RENT
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AND DAMAGES?
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SMALLS: YES.
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JUDGE: IS IT A HOME OR AN
[696]
APARTMENT THAT YOU LEASED?
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SMALLS: IT'S A TRIPLEX UNIT.
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JUDGE: TRIPLEX UNIT? OK. AND
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WHERE IS IT LOCATED?
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SMALLS: IT'S, UH, LOCATED IN LOS
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ANGELES.
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JUDGE: OK. TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED
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HERE. START FROM THE BEGINNING.
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PARKER: WELL, YOUR HONOR, I WAS
[707]
IN NEED FROM RELOCATING FROM ONE
[710]
OF MY UNITS. I WAS--IN "THE
[712]
PENNYSAVER," I SEEN THE AD FOR
[714]
MR. SMALLS, AND, UH, IT SAID
[716]
THAT, YOU KNOW, "SECTION 8
[718]
WELCOME. ONE BEDROOM." THAT'S
[721]
NOVEMBER, OK? AND I TOOK TIME
[725]
TO CALL SMALLS, AND I MADE AN
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APPOINTMENT WITH HIM, WE GOT
[729]
INSIDE THE UNIT, HE SAID, "LOOK.
[731]
THIS LITTLE PART, WE GOT
[732]
TRIM TO PUT ON IT, AND IT'LL
[734]
TAKE ME 8 HOURS. I'LL GET THIS
[736]
THING DONE, AND WE CAN GET YOU
[738]
IN HERE." WELL, I WAITED ABOUT 5
[743]
MONTHS BEFORE THAT HAPPENED.
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SMALLS: NOT TRUE, YOUR HONOR.
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JUDGE: WHERE WERE YOU LIVING AT
[747]
THE TIME, SIR?
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PARKER: UH, I WAS HOUSE-SITTING
[750]
FOR A GENTLEMAN...
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JUDGE: OK.
[752]
PARKER: IN GARDENA.
[753]
JUDGE: YOU MOVE INTO MR. SMALL''
[754]
TRIPLEX UNIT.
[755]
PARKER: SURE.
[756]
JUDGE: ON WHAT MONTH AND YEAR,
[757]
SIR?
[758]
PARKER: ON APRIL 10, I GAVE HIM
[759]
$1,920.
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JUDGE: FOR THE SECURITY DEPOSIT.
[762]
PARKER: FOR THE SECURITY
[763]
DEPOSIT.
[764]
JUDGE: OK, AND DID YOU SIGN A
[765]
LEASE? DID THE TWO OF YOU ENTER
[766]
INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT?
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PARKER: YES, WE DID.
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JUDGE: MAY I SEE A COPY OF THAT,
[768]
PLEASE? BARBARA, WOULD YOU HAND
[769]
THAT TO ME? WHAT WAS THE
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AGREEMENT, MR. SMALLS, IN TERMS
[772]
OF RENT?
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SMALLS: WELL--
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JUDGE: HE PAID YOU $1,920 FOR A
[776]
SECURITY DEPOSIT?
[776]
SMALLS: YES.
[778]
JUDGE: AND WHAT WAS THE
[778]
AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF RENT?
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SMALLS: AT THAT TIME, THE RENT
[781]
WAS $1,000.
[783]
I GOT A CALL FROM THE HOUSING
[785]
UNIT. THEY SAID, "WELL, MR.
[787]
PARKER--HE ONLY MAKES $300 A
[789]
MONTH, SO HIS INCOME DOESN'T
[792]
QUALIFY. CAN YOU DROP THE RENT
[795]
DOWN TO 993?"
[799]
JUDGE: SO THIS IS A SECTION 8
[800]
HOUSING.
[801]
SMALLS: RIGHT. THEY SUBSIDIZE
[802]
YOU WITH YOUR INCOME. SO HE HAS
[804]
AN AGREEMENT WITH SECTION 8 TO
[806]
SUBSIDIZE THEIR INCOME. I HAVE A
[808]
CONTRACT WITH HIM. HE TAKES THE
[810]
CONTRACT DOWN TO SECTION 8. THEY
[812]
VERIFY THE CONTRACT.
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JUDGE: THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
[815]
SMALLS: RIGHT, THE LEASE
[816]
AGREEMENT.
[816]
JUDGE: SO HOW MUCH WAS SECTION 8
[817]
GOING TO PAY, AND HOW MUCH WAS
[819]
HE GOING TO PAY? WHAT WAS THE
[820]
AGREEMENT?
[821]
SMALLS: I GET A CALL FROM
[821]
SECTION 8, AND SAYS, "HEY, MR.
[823]
PARKER DOESN'T MAKE ENOUGH. DO
[825]
YOU MIND LOWERING THE RENT DOWN
[827]
TO 997 OR 990 SOMETHING?" I
[830]
SAID, "OK. THAT'S FINE. YOU
[831]
KNOW, A COUPLE OF DOLLARS IS NOT
[832]
GONNA KILL ME." SO I GET A CALL
[834]
BACK AGAIN, AND THEY SAY, "MR.
[836]
SMALLS, SINCE MR. PARKER
[838]
SUPPLIES HIS OWN REFRIGERATOR
[840]
AND HIS STOVE, THEN HE'S
[842]
ENTITLED TO ANOTHER ALLOWANCE,
[844]
SO WOULD YOU MIND ACCEPTING
[846]
976?" I SAID, "OK, THAT'S FINE.
[851]
I'LL ACCEPT 976." THEY CALLED ME
[854]
AGAIN. "MR. SMALLS, MR. PARKER
[857]
PAYS FOR THE LIGHTS AND THE GAS,
[860]
CORRECT?" I SAID YES. THEY SAID,
[861]
"WELL, CAN WE--WILL YOU ACCEPT
[865]
960?" I SAID, "WELL, YOU'RE
[867]
PUTTING ME IN A BAD SITUATION
[869]
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WHEN HE WAS
[870]
WITH THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, I
[872]
PORTED HIM OVER TO THE COUNTY
[874]
BECAUSE MY LOCATION IS IN THE
[876]
COUNTY, AND I CAN ONLY ACCEPT A
[878]
COUNTY VOUCHER."
[878]
JUDGE: MM-HMM.
[879]
SMALLS: SO I DID ALL THAT
[880]
PAPERWORK FOR HIM.
[881]
JUDGE: SO HE COULD QUALIFY TO
[881]
LIVE IN YOUR HOME ON THE
[882]
VOUCHER.
[883]
SMALLS: RIGHT.
[884]
JUDGE: HOW MUCH WERE YOU
[885]
SUPPOSED TO PAY? HOW MUCH WAS
[886]
SECTION 8 SUPPOSED TO PAY?
[887]
PARKER: THE TOTAL WAS $960. MY
[890]
BILL WAS 71, AND THE HOUSING
[892]
AUTHORITY WOULD PAY THE REST.
[893]
JUDGE: HOW LONG DO YOU LIVE IN
[894]
THIS UNIT, SIR?
[895]
PARKER: I WAS, UH, GIVEN THE
[896]
KEYS ON APRIL 10. I MOVED OUT
[899]
SEPTEMBER 20.
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JUDGE: WHAT HAPPENED? BECAUSE
[901]
THIS IS A YEAR LEASE.
[902]
PARKER: I WAS LIVING AS A
[904]
SQUATTER BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA
[906]
WHETHER OR NOT--
[907]
SMALLS: WAIT A MINUTE.
[907]
JUDGE: HOLD ON A SECOND.
[908]
PARKER: WHETHER OR NOT I HAD TO
[909]
MOVE TOMORROW, TODAY, BECAUSE
[911]
THIS GUY HAS GOT ME IN THE
[912]
BLIND.
[913]
JUDGE: WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT'S
[914]
GOING ON?
[915]
PARKER: WELL, EVERY TIME I WALK
[916]
IN FROM WORK, "HAVE YOU TALKED
[918]
TO YOUR WORKER?" I SAYS NO.
[920]
JUDGE: YOUR CASE WORKER?
[921]
PARKER: YES. I SAYS NO. HE SAYS,
[923]
"WELL, YOU NEED TO GIVE HER A
[924]
CALL." YOU KNOW, MY CASE WORKER
[926]
DID CALL ME TWO MONTHS LATER.
[928]
SAYS, "MR. PARKER, MR. SMALLS
[930]
ASKED ME, HOW DO I GET MR.
[933]
PARKER OUT OF HERE?"
[934]
SMALLS: THAT'S NOT TRUE.
[935]
PARKER: OK, THAT IS ON THE
[936]
COMPUTER IN THE HOUSING
[938]
AUTHORITY.
[940]
ANNOUNCER: COMING UP, JUDGE
[942]
FAITH TURNS UP THE HEAT.
[944]
JUDGE: HAD YOU BEEN PAYING YOUR
[945]
$71 A MONTH, SIR?
[945]
PARKER: YES, MA'AM. I'M DOING
[947]
EVERYTHING I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
[948]
JUDGE: SOUNDS LIKE IT. SO WHAT'S
[949]
GOING ON?
[953]
ANNOUNCER: PLAINTIFF HENRY
[954]
PARKER JR. CLAIMS THE DEFENDANT
[955]
KEPT TRYING TO EVICT HIM FROM
[956]
HIS PROPERTY AND WAS UNWILLING
[958]
TO STRIKE A DEAL WITH THE
[959]
HOUSING AUTHORITY.
[961]
DEFENDANT KEVIN SMALLS SAYS THE
[962]
PLAINTIFF OWES FOR 6 MONTHS OF
[963]
RENT, SO HE'S KEEPING THE
[965]
PLAINTIFF'S SECURITY DEPOSIT.
[967]
JUDGE: HAD YOU BEEN PAYING YOUR
[968]
$71 A MONTH, SIR?
[969]
PARKER: YES, MA'AM.
[970]
JUDGE: OK. SO HE PAID HIS $71 A
[971]
MONTH.
[972]
PARKER: I'M DOING EVERYTHING I
[973]
WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
[974]
JUDGE: SOUNDS LIKE IT.
[975]
SO WHAT'S GOING ON?
[976]
SMALLS: IN APRIL, HE PAYS HIS
[978]
$71 A MONTH. I GET A CALL FROM
[980]
SECTION 8 AND TELL THEM THAT,
[982]
"HEY, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED YOUR
[982]
PORTION AMOUNT." THEY SAID, "YOU
[985]
CAN GIVE MR. PARKER THE KEY."
[987]
WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE ON APRIL
[989]
1, I HAVE THE INSPECTION.
[990]
SHE SAID, "I SEE THAT YOUR
[991]
INSPECTION HAS PASSED.
[992]
EVERYTHING FINE." I CALLED MR.
[994]
PARKER ON APRIL 1, AND I SAID,
[998]
"YOUR WORKER SAID GIVE YOU THE
[999]
KEYS IF YOU HAVE THE SECURITY
[1002]
DEPOSIT." HE WAS SUPPOSED TO
[1003]
ALREADY HAVE THE SECURITY
[1004]
DEPOSIT.
[1005]
JUDGE: SIR, DID HE PAY THE
[1006]
SECURITY DEPOSIT?
[1006]
SMALLS: YES, BUT HE'S MAKING IT
[1008]
SEEM LIKE I DELAYED IT FROM
[1010]
APRIL.
[1011]
JUDGE: DID HE PAY YOU $1,920 FOR
[1013]
A SECURITY DEPOSIT, SIR?
[1015]
SMALLS: YES, HE DID.
[1015]
JUDGE: OK. HE'S SUING YOU
[1016]
BECAUSE YOU WON'T RETURN HIS
[1018]
SECURITY DEPOSIT. I THINK WHAT
[1019]
YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME IS YOU
[1022]
NEVER GOT MONEY FROM SECTION 8
[1024]
FOR THIS UNIT.
[1025]
SMALLS: RIGHT.
[1026]
JUDGE: WHY WERE YOU NOT GETTING
[1027]
THE MONEY FROM SECTION 8?
[1028]
SMALLS: BECAUSE THEY WANTED ME
[1029]
TO DROP DOWN--
[1030]
JUDGE: THEY WANTED YOU TO DROP
[1031]
DOWN--
[1032]
SMALLS: TO 955.
[1033]
JUDGE: TO 955.
[1035]
SMALLS: RIGHT.
[1035]
JUDGE: SO THE ENTIRE TIME HE'S
[1036]
LIVING THERE, PAYING HIS $71,
[1039]
YOU'RE HASSLING WITH SECTION 8
[1041]
OVER HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO
[1043]
GIVE YOU FOR THE APARTMENT, THE
[1044]
TRIPLEX, HE'S LIVING IN,
[1045]
CORRECT?
[1046]
SMALLS: RIGHT.
[1047]
JUDGE: AND NOW YOU'RE IN COURT.
[1048]
YOU'RE SUING HIM BECAUSE YOU
[1049]
WANT HIM TO PAY THE FULL AMOUNT
[1051]
OF THIS LEASE AGREEMENT BECAUSE
[1053]
YOU COULD NOT COME TO AN
[1054]
AGREEMENT WITH SECTION 8 AS TO
[1055]
HOW MUCH THEY WOULD PAY YOU FOR
[1057]
THE APARTMENT HE WAS LIVING IN.
[1058]
CORRECT?
[1060]
DO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR, WHAT
[1061]
SECTION 8 HOUSING IS FOR? IT'S
[1063]
FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO
[1064]
PAY $960. SO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
[1067]
GOING TO COME INTO COURT TODAY
[1068]
AND I'M GOING TO ORDER HIM TO
[1070]
PAY YOU $6,000 IN BACK RENT?
[1073]
SMALLS: WELL, HE'S THE ONE THAT
[1074]
LIVED IN THE UNIT.
[1075]
JUDGE: AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT
[1076]
COULD NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT
[1077]
WITH SECTION 8 OVER HOW MUCH HE
[1079]
COULD PAY.
[1080]
[APPLAUSE]
[1082]
THE MAN HAS SECTION 8 BECAUSE HE
[1082]
CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY $960 IN
[1085]
RENT.
[1086]
SMALLS: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
[1087]
JUDGE: YOUR PROBLEM IS WITH
[1088]
SECTION 8. IT IS NOT WITH HIM.
[1090]
I'M NOT ORDERING HIM TO PAY YOU
[1091]
$6,000 IN RENT, SIR.
[1099]
ANNOUNCER: AND NOW JUDGE FAITH
[1100]
RULES.
[1103]
JUDGE: YOU CHOSE TO PUT YOUR
[1104]
HOME ON SECTION 8. THAT WAS YOUR
[1107]
CHOICE.
[1108]
SMALLS: RIGHT.
[1108]
JUDGE: YOU HAD A TENANT WHO WAS
[1109]
APPROVED WHO MOVED IN. YOU
[1112]
DIDN'T AGREE WITH SECTION 8 ONLY
[1113]
PAYING YOU $1,000 BECAUSE THEY
[1115]
MAKE THE DETERMINATION BASED
[1116]
ON THE PROPERTY, THE
[1117]
NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S IN. THEY MAKE
[1119]
THE DETERMINATION AS TO HOW MUCH
[1120]
RENT THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY.
[1121]
SMALLS: YES.
[1122]
JUDGE: THE ENTIRE TIME,
[1123]
UNBEKNOWNST TO YOU, I'M
[1124]
ASSUMING, YOU'RE NEGOTIATING
[1126]
WITH SECTION 8 OVER $20? $10?
[1130]
$5.00? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
[1132]
YOU JUST DIDN'T TAKE THE MONEY.
[1134]
THIS IS NOT HIS PROBLEM. WHY ARE
[1136]
YOU KEEPING HIS $1,920 SECURITY
[1141]
DEPOSIT WHEN HE DID WHAT HE WAS
[1143]
SUPPOSED TO DO? YOUR PROBLEM IS
[1145]
WITH SECTION 8, SIR.
[1146]
SMALLS: WELL--
[1146]
JUDGE: JUDGMENT IN THIS CASE FOR
[1147]
THE PLAINTIFF--$1,920. YOUR
[1150]
COUNTERCLAIM FOR BACK RENT IS
[1151]
DISMISSED.
[1152]
PARKER: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
[1154]
[APPLAUSE]
[1159]
ANNOUNCER: IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU
[1160]
KNOW HAS A DISPUTE, DON'T TAKE
[1161]
THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS. LET
[1163]
JUDGE FAITH RULE ON IT FOR YOU.
[1165]
TO SUBMIT YOUR CASE, GO TO
[1167]
JUDGEFAITH.COM AND TELL US YOUR
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STORY. SEE YOU IN COURT.
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