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In 2019, the North American
waste management market reached
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$208 billion. Strict
environmental regulations as
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well as a surge in the amount of
waste produced is expected to
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expand the market even further.
By 2027, the waste management
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market is expected to grow into
a $229 billion industry.
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Anytime when I'm going to a
landfill I talk to my kids and I
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talk to my son and daughters,
yucky, you're going to come back
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as a smelly. I told them, You
smell the trash and I smell
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money.
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America remains one of the most
wasteful countries in the world
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generating 239 million tons of
garbage every year, about 16 or
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1700 pounds per person. While
some view it as a threat to our
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environment in society, others
see it as an opportunity.
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It's a profitable industry. It's
a difficult industry, but it is
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profitable. If done right and I
think that is why there are so
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many private companies that are
involved in waste management.
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Thanks to advancements in modern
chemistry and the support from
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the government landfills have
seen astonishing financial
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success in recent years. Raking
in millions of dollars in
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profit. Private solid waste
management companies like Waste
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Management and Republic Services
have shown significant growth
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over the last five years.
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They've learned how to be best
in class businesses. And as they
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did that, what you saw was this
growth occurring in new customer
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growth, new business formation
linked with consumerism,
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consumer engagement housing, and
the garbage industry. Publicly
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traded stocks outperformed the
market handily between 2015 and
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2019. And underpinning it is a
meaningful improvement in their
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free cash flow conversion.
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So how exactly are landfills
turning profit out of garbage,
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and just how much money can be
made.
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When people think of landfills,
they usually imagine an endless
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field of garbage emitting a
terrible odor and housing all
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manner of pests. But modern
sanitary landfills today are
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much more nuanced and a lot less
smelly.
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A modern landfill is a civil
engineering marvel. These are
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extraordinarily well engineered,
they're designed to protect
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human health and the
environment, and at the same
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time, contain and manage the
waste that we generate at four
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and a half pounds a person per
day in United States.
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If you walk towards the landfill
and there is a smell, that means
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they're doing something wrong.
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Strict regulations and the work
by the EPA have changed
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landfills to become more modern
and sanitary than ever. The
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Solid Waste Disposal Act of
1965, combined with the Resource
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Conservation and Recovery Act of
1976 dramatically expanded the
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federal government's role in
managing waste disposal.
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Open dumps where garbage is
dropped off without any
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protection are now illegal. When
waste is brought to a sanitary
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landfill, they are disposed into
an open section known as the
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cell. This cell is protected by
a layer of reinforced plastic
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known as the liner that prevents
any harmful liquids from leaking
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out. Any liquid from the waste
is collected at the bottom of
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the landfill and is removed via
a series of pipes gravels and
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sand. Meanwhile, above ground
trash is constantly compressed
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within the cell using bulldozers
and other compaction equipment
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using daily covers to protect
the trash from sun, rain and
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pests until the cell reaches its
max capacity. Once that happens,
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either a new cell begins on top
or a final cover is placed over.
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The site is then continuously
monitored for up to 30 years to
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ensure everything is
environmentally sound.
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There is the potential for the
miner system to leak, for
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example, over long periods of
time, and probably more likely
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the cover system. You know, it's
just going to be subject to that
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settling and weathering and
different things. So there's
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potential for gas emissions, you
want to be monitoring the
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landfill as long as there's the
potential for gas or liquid
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emissions.
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Landfills make a majority of
their revenue even before the
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garbage makes its way to the
pile of trash through a tipping
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fee or a gate fee landfills
charged trucks dropping off
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their garbage based on their
weight per ton. This fee acts as
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the lifeblood of most landfills
across the United States.
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Shipping fee gets its
connotation because the truck
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comes in and tips, if you will,
it literally tips up. The trash
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is driven out of the trailer
through what's known as a
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walking floor. So tipping is
it's your gate rate it's the
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price per ton, and that is the
principal source of income.
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In 2020 municipal solid waste
landfills had an average tipping
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of $53.72 per ton. That
translates to roughly 1.4
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million a year in approximate
average gross revenue for small
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landfills and 43.5 million a
year for large landfills just
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from gate fees and tipping fees
have seen steady growth over the
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past four decades. In 1982. The
national average tipping fee sat
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at $8.07 per ton, or about $23
when adjusted for inflation.
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That's nearly a 133% increase in
35 years. Tipping fees vary
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widely depending on where the
landfill is located. For
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instance, the south central
region in the US has the lowest
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average tipping fee of $39.66
per ton, with some states like
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Arkansas reporting a fee as low
as $30.53 per ton. On the other
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hand, the average tipping fee in
the northeast is almost double
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that at $68.69 per ton. With
states like Delaware reporting a
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fee as high as $85 per ton.
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There's a list of reasons but at
its simplest level, is scarce.
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So where tipping fees are the
highest, I would venture that
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you have extraordinarily dense
populations and very few
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disposal options. The other
difference is, the cost of
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building done in western
Pennsylvania dealing with rock
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formations at very shallow level
and I literally go 50 miles west
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and go to Ohio, the cost of
building a landfill in western
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Pennsylvania versus Ohio are
dramatically different.
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While tipping fees make landfill
sound like a risk free business,
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they are still quite an
expensive investment. It can
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cost about 1.1 to $1.7 million
just to construct, operate and
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close a landfill. And there are
financial obligations that must
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be met even after the landfill
has been closed entirely.
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There was a major regulatory
change that happened in the 70s
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called the Resource Conservation
Recovery Act by 1994. Every
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landfill that was in service in
North America had to adhere to
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something called Subtitle D
which is the design operation
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and then the the lifecycle
financial assurance obligations
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of managing and overseeing that
site for 30 years after closing.
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So every business owner, whoever
owns the business, they make
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money up to the time it's
working. Then even after close
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up, they have to pay the
maintenance fee, which is
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around $1 million without making
money for 30 years. That's part
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of their business operation, so
they need to make money upfront.
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Today private companies have
replaced municipal governments
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to own and operate the majority
of landfills across the US. In
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1988, about 7900 landfills were
publicly owned. By 2009, that
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number had fallen to about 1900.
It's now estimated that more
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than half of all municipal solid
waste landfills are privately
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owned, with the industry
controlling 85 to 90% of
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permitted capacity.
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Landfills are often owned by
private companies. And I think
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it's because the trend has been
to go larger and larger so that
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the small neighborhood dump can
exist because the regulation in
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the sophistication of the design
so we're tending to see large
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landfills, which would require a
lot of investment upfront.
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Two private companies, Waste
Management and Republic Services
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lead the Solid Waste Management
sector. Waste Management says it
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owns nearly 300 landfills across
the US, while Republic Service
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syas it operates just over 180
out of the 2627 landfills across
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America. Together the two
companies have seen staggering
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performance in the market. With
both companies stock prices
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doubling in the past five years.
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If you take the Great Recession,
and sort of lay the framework of
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how to garbage perform post the
Great Recession. What what
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you'll discover there's a five
year window up to 2014 where
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they did okay. They were you
know they were in the green
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matching or slightly
outperforming the market but the
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significant outperformance
begins in 2014 through 2019.
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They've learned how to be best
in class businesses. And as they
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did that, what you saw was this
growth occurring in new customer
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growth new business formation
linked with consumerism,
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consumer engagement housing, and
the garbage industry public
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traded stocks outperformed the
market handily between 2015 and
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2019. And underpinning it is a
meaningful improvement in their
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free cash flow conversion.
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Some government jurisdictions
have also transitioned to a
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hybrid ownership in places like
Wake County, North Carolina
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landfills are owned by the
county but operated by GFL
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Environmental, a private
company.
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So if you give it fully
privatized, a private company
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will try to go through the
regulation but they're meant
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because they'll be making money.
To me the combination of both is
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the best choice because that way
city has some control over the
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landfill company. They will look
at only for the profit. But city
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also needs to make sure that not
only the profit, the
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environmental sustainability,
environmental cases and people's
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life, the key everything is
maintained in the right way.
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Private companies have also
discovered new ways beyond
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tipping fees to turn profit out
of their garbage. Landfill
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mining and reclamation a process
of extracting and reprocessing
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materials from older landfills
is one of them.
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Certainly looking at waste as a
resource is the best thing for
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for the economy. It's the best
thing for the environment for
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health. Putting metal in a
landfill just makes absolutely
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no sense. It's just gonna sit in
the landfill forever and ever
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and ever there'll be some
corrosion but but it's pretty
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much gonna sit there. Whereas
metals are so easy to recover
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and recycle, and and save so
much money and energy and so
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forth.
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In 2011, a private scrap metal
company contracted with a
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nonprofit landfill in Southern
Maine to mine precious metals.
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In four years, they recovered
over 37,000 tons of metal worth
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$7.42 million. But it isn't
always a success story. In 2017,
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the city of Denton, Texas ended
their landfill mining program
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before could even start after
realizing that the benefits
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weren't worth its $4.56 million
price tag. According to experts,
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economics is usually the biggest
challenge to make landfill
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mining work.
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There's virtually no way I can
see how that makes money, the
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commodity values would have to
be at such higher levels than
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they are today, whatever it is
you're trying to get your hands
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on.
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However, some experts claim that
landfill mining can be
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profitable if done correctly.
That's because mining can often
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recover the most valuable asset
of any privately owned landfill,
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space.
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You get new tipping fee, right?
You put the trash back into that
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little mined space. So as if you
build a new landfill without
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buying a new space. So that
space gives you lot of money,
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when you start backfilling. Many
people are mining but they are
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not reusing the space. So they
are saying, oh, okay, we cannot
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make money out of money. Yes,
you cannot. But if you do the
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operation, right, you're never
going to be involved, if you
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will always make money.
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Modern chemistry has also
allowed landfills to be mined
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for energy. When trash decays
inside a landfill, it produces
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methane gas. For decades,
regulations have required
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landfills to suck out this
highly flammable gas and dispose
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of it safely. landfill gas to
energy projects, however, use
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the same gas to produce fuel and
generate electricity for profit.
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The landfill gas operations that
are known as low or medium BTO
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which are the predominant form
of capture the gas policy a
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little but turned into
electricity or steam and then
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sell it. Those are good return
on capital projects.
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According to the US Energy
Information Administration,
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landfill gas generates about 10
point 5 billion kilowatt hours
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of electricity every year.
That's enough to power roughly
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810,000 homes and heat nearly
540,000 homes each year.
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It just didn't paper where I was
looking at how much electricity
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you can generate from landfills
compared to how much energy
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we're using to produce
electricity. And it's like, less
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than 1% I mean, it's it's a
minor contributer to our heav
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demands for energy in the US
But it's you know, it's 1%. So
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you know, it's, it's helpful
It's every everything counts
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And if you're going to b
attacking the gas for othe
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reasons, you might as well g
ahead and do that if you know i
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it makes sense from an economi
standpoint to generat
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electricity
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But it's also a big investment.
Landfill gas to energy projects
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can cost over $5 million to
build and operate, while revenue
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from generating energy and fuel
doesn't quite cover the cost,
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landfills do benefit greatly
from generous subsidies.
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Many cities went into that
landfill gas to energy because
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they get the carbon credits, and
they get money from the federal
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government. When they are
producing the gas and capturing
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the gas, they're converting that
into electricity. The amount of
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gas you're capturing you're
reducing the greenhouse gas
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emission. That's why government
was subsidizing not only for
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carbon credits are subsidizing
because you're reducing the
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greenhouse gas emission pressure
on the environment.
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The tipping fee combined with
various mining techniques and
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government subsidies have
together transformed the
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landfill industry into a booming
business.
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It's a profitable industry. It's
a difficult industry, but it is
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profitable done right and I
think that is why there are so
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many private companies that are
involved in waste management.
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Solid Waste Management will only
continue to expand as long as
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there are those who view garbage
as a resource rather than waste.
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Because when it comes to
landfills, one man's trash is
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quite literally another man's
treasure.
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Waste is not a waste but it's a
resource. Because if you don't
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recycle the plastic if we don't
recycle the paper, if we don't
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recycle the paper what we are
going to do we are going to go
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and cut more trees. If we don't
recycle the plastic we are going
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to go after more bio product
from gasoline. If we don't reuse
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the electronic material, we are
going to keep mining virgin
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material. World has limited
resource. If we don't reuse and
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recycle these, we cannot talk
about circular economy. That
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will always be a talk in the
tabletop discussion.
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