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Please be seated.
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Hello, your honor.
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Hello.
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This is the case of<i>
Brugger v. Warner.</i>
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Thank you Jerome.
Good day everyone.
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AUDIENCE: Good day.
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Ms. Brugger, you are here
to prove to the defendant
that your son,
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Parrish Brooks Jr.
was fathered by the
defendant's grandson
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<i> who was tragically
killed two months ago</i>
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<i> in an auto accident.</i>
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Ms. Warner, you are here
with your granddaughter
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and you don't believe
Parrish Jr.
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is your great grandson.
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No, your honor.
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JUDGE LAKE: You say that
the plaintiff has dragged you
to court today
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because she wants in
on your family's land
and oil trust.
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Yes, your honor.
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All right, you claim
your granddaughter
knows for a fact
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your grandson was sterile.
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Yes, your honor.
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What do you believe
Ms. Brugger's motives
actually are?
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Money. Gold-digger.
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WARNER: Right after
Parrish got killed, she went
for social security,
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and, uh...
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Parrish, I know Parrish
had told, told her about
the land we have in Texas
[63]
WARNER: <i> You know, she was
just trying to cash in on him.</i>
[65]
<i> And she wanted
a father for her girls.</i>
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JUDGE LAKE: <i> Ms. Brugger,</i>
[68]
you say he is in fact
your child's father?
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Yes, he is my son's father.
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We lived together,
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everything, we were
in a relationship,
he asked me to marry him.
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That is my son's father.
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BRUGGER: He never
denied my son.
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So, I don't see why they are.
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And the fact that they are
saying he was sterile,
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he was never told
by a doctor.
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That was him because
he never had a child.
[91]
Me and Parrish clearly
had a conversation
before he passed
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that he wasn't sure.
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And so when you say,
"he wasn't sure..."
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What did he say?
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Because he
was just like...
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"Chas, I don't even think
I can have kids."
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All he wanted his
whole life was a baby.
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And then he gets
with Rochell,
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and then she comes
pregnant like,
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a month or two later.
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He didn't even think
he could have kids.
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Excuse me, I have to
say something. They weren't
together when Parrish
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was deceased.
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He had another girlfriend
they were not together.
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We weren't together
when he died, no.
[120]
WARNER: I had to tell you.
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No, you guys wasn't
together.
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That's what she said, ma'am.
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Okay.
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We lived together.
We were a family.
[129]
He told everyone
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my girls were
his stepdaughters.
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He called them
his stepdaughters...
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Everything. He was there
through my whole pregnancy.
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<i> All the doctor's appointments.</i>
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<i> Everything.</i>
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JUDGE LAKE: <i> And when
you had the baby,</i>
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was he at the hospital?
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No, he couldn't be there.
But, as soon as he got out
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he was adamant about...
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Having the hospital hold on
to the birth certificate
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before they turned it in,
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so that he could sign it.
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So, do have proof of that?
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BRUGGER: When we
came home...
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BRUGGER: Yes.
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JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Brugger,
explain to me.
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This is actually a voluntary
acknowledgment of paternity
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<i> that Parrish Sr. signed?</i>
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BRUGGER: <i> Yes, your honor.</i>
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JUDGE LAKE:
He acknowledged paternity?
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Yes.
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"I am the legal father."
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You have this is writing,
this is his signature?
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Yes, your honor.
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While you were in this
relationship he's going to
doctor's appointments with you
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and he is excited
about the baby
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and calling your girls
his stepchildren.
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Is he expressing
any of this excitement
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Ms. Warner, Ms. Veasley,
to you that,
"I'm having a child,
[193]
"I believe it's mine?"
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Yes, your honor.
[196]
JUDGE LAKE: But, you just
don't believe it is?
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Yes, your honor.
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You had a shower?
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BRUGGER: I had
a baby shower, yes.
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JUDGE LAKE: Did you
attend, Ms. Warner?
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Ms. Veasley, were you
a part of that?
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No, I, I didn't do anything.
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I was, your honor.
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JUDGE LAKE: You did?
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WARNER: I did go
because of Parrish,
Parrish was alive then.
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That was his baby.
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But, to me,
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that's not his child.
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<i> He loved the baby, your honor,
but the baby don't even look
like him.</i>
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<i> He don't act like him.
His forehead's not like...</i>
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There is nothing about him
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that tell me that
that is my grandson.
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WARNER: The baby...
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My son looks...
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WARNER: No, no,
he doesn't.
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Around his eyes
he looks...
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Where?
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<i> Just like... He looks
just like his grandpa.</i>
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WARNER: No, <i> that's...</i>
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No, that's not his grandpa.
His Grandpa never did
nothin' for Parrish!
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I don't know what...
No...
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Well, I...
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BRUGGER: That's what
y'all say.
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BRUGGER: Since my son has
been born...
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WARNER: I raised Parrish.
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Since my son has been
born, the whole time
[243]
I was with Parrish
in a relationship,
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he's been the
one that has
been around.
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I invited them
to my son's
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first birthday party,
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they didn't show up.
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WARNER: That's not my son,
that's why I didn't show up.
[253]
And if y'all felt this way
about my son then why
did y'all...
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Because I loved
Parrish so much.
I loved Parrish so much.
[257]
When his father was alive,
there was never a question.
[260]
WARNER: Parrish is no
longer here. He's no longer
here, now.
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But, if y'all felt
that this was
not his son...
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I can defend
that now.
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Why wouldn't you say so...
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When he was alive
or when my son
was born?
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'Cause I wasn't
going to hurt
Parrish.
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Parrish wanted
the baby so bad...
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They have never
been around much.
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So, wait, what I am trying to
understand from the
situation, Ms. Warner,
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is all this time even when
the baby was there,
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did you have doubts
about the paternity?
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Yes your honor.
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But, I wasn't going
to say anything...
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With, uh, Parrish
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JUDGE LAKE: You just didn't
want to upset Parrish...
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No!
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I did not want to come between
Parrish and that baby.
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But, now Parrish is no longer,
I can say my piece now.
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And the real truth is
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you were his grandmother,
but you raised him.
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He was really
like a son to you.
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WARNER: Your honor,
his mother died in '85,
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I am the only person
was there for Parrish.
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That's why I just...
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Couldn't hurt him
because of this baby.
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He didn't, he didn't
have a family.
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His dad over there
did never...
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That never did come by...
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MAN: Never?
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Oh, yeah, you were...
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(AUDIENCE GASPS)
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Come on, I would never...
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Come on, now...
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It seemed like never.
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It seemed like never.
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You know what...
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(ARGUING INDISTINCTLY)
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All right let's get, let's get
some order. Let's get some
order.
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In your court papers,
Ms. Brugger,
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you say,
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that his family didn't
even tell you
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when he passed away.
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Is that true?
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Yes.
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I got a phone call
from one of my friends.
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They had seen it
on Facebook.
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They had just found out
that morning too.
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But, you would think...
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WARNER: I'm grieving,
that was my son...
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I didn't have time
to call nobody.
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Had seen it
on Facebook.
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VEASLEY: Rochell...
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VEASLEY: You have
to understand where
she is coming from.
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They didn't even call his
father and let his own
father know.
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WARNER:
They, they found it out...
Excuse me, your honor.
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They found out on Facebook.
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Someone else caught
the coroner's office,
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they released all
of his information.
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So, when I'm looking
at Facebook at like
5:00 in the morning
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going to work,
I see it.
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I call my grandmother.
"Grandma, have you heard
anything about Parrish?"
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I had just talked
to Parrish
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the Friday that he...
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Died at like 10:00
in the morning.
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WARNER: They weren't
in a relationship
at that time.
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And so...
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They weren't together.
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I still have his son!
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WARNER: But you guys...
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BRUGGER: We don't have
to be together.
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I was grieving at the time.
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BRUGGER: For me to know,
I am still stuck,
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happening to raise
our son
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by myself.
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Well, ask him,
he'll tell...
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So, if you really
cared about your
grandson
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and you know he said
this was his son
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and he loved him
very, very much.
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And that's why
she is here today.
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Wouldn't you want his son
to know that he no longer
has a father?
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WARNER: That's why
I am here.
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(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
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VEASLEY: Parrish felt that
she used to have some dude
come over to the house.
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Whose hair she
was always doing.
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BRUGGER: Your honor...
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Never got paid.
Parrish didn't like that.
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Because he had called
my grandmother and clearly
stated to her.
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He has telling
me plenty of times
that Rochell was broken
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that she was tainted,
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and that's why he had to
get out of the situation.
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So, when you
would talk to
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Parrish, Ms. Warner,
he was saying he wanted
to get out of the situation?
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WARNER: <i> He was saying,
"She is broken grandma,
I cannot fix her."</i>
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He says, "She is crazy,
grandma. She is..."
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This guy keeps coming
over and doing her hair
and he...
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He's not even, she's not even
getting paid for doing
his hair!
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So, man would just
come over to the house
and get his hair done?
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Right and she wouldn't even
get any... She wouldn't
even accept any money.
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This is what he told me
out of his mouth, your honor.
This is just...
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Couple of things.
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JUDGE LAKE: So, he was
intimating that
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he maybe thought
she was cheating
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with this guy?
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Yeah! He'd come home
and the guy was there.
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Who is this guy?
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Ms. Brugger, you just had
a guy over the house,
doing his hair?
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Your honor, first of all
I have a degree
in cosmetology.
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So, I do hair.
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When me and Parrish
first got together,
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there is a guy who I have
known for years.
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He is my brother's friend.
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I've been doing
his hair for years.
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It happened one time
I was doing his hair,
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Parrish came home,
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<i> he got mad about it.</i>
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<i> I never had...
I stopped doing his hair.</i>
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<i> He never came back over again
to get his hair done.</i>
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And then, your honor, there
was also times when Parrish
would call my grandmother
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that Rochell wasn't picking
him up from work.
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He was late to picking her up.
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And she couldn't explain
to him on why
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all that was happening.
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There was times when
she kicked Parrish out.
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He came to
my grandmother's house.
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She had to give
him money to stay
at a hotel room.
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Your honor, the only time
he was staying at a hotel
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was after he was gone
out of my house.
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The girlfriend he had
after me,
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they lived in a hotel.
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When he was living
with me,
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we lived together
we had a house.
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WARNER: Your honor,
but she put him out.
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BRUGGER: I put him out
because he was not making
the right choices.
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So, I had to make a choice
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to protect my children
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and put them first.
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(AUDIENCE CLAPPING)
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BRUGGER: And if you are
grown...
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You need to be a man
and do what you need to do.
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And he wasn't doing that.
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So, I had to make that choice.
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I put him out.
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<i> We still were talking.</i>
[540]
But, he knew, in order for him
to come back home...
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You wouldn't even let him
bring him over to my house,
Rochell...
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BRUGGER: Uh, why?
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I don't know why.
[546]
You watched my
son one time.
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We trusted you with my son.
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When he was like two
to three months.
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She did not feed my son,
all night.
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That's not his child.
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We trusted you with my son
when he was two to three
months.
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She did not feed my son,
all night.
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WARNER: No, no, it didn't
go like that...
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Don't say that.
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She brought
him home...
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In a car seat
without him being
strapped in...
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You are...
No.
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WARNER: <i> No!</i>
[572]
BRUGGER: <i> The seat belt
was over the car seat...</i>
[573]
BRUGGER: <i> And the car seat
was turned backwards.</i>
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Your honor.
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Parrish was even mad.
He said...
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I have to tell you that...
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He will never let
her keep our son.
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Until he was
old enough.
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I'll tell you happened.
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How can he pick up the phone
on his own?
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What happened now?
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My grandmother was under
the impression that
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baby Parrish was
on breast milk.
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I'm a great grandmother.
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I'm not, you know...
So, I didn't know
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this up-to-date stuff.
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And they bought him about,
told me to feed him
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and I left...
He wouldn't take the bottle.
I left it out.
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I tried to call them
all night long.
I was paging them.
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Nobody would answer the phone.
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She didn't call my phone,
she called his.
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And I took him over
to the house. They didn't want
to come to the door.
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You know, I was panicking
I wasn't used to keeping
little babies.
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That was it.
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And when you were trying
to give him...
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The milk, he didn't want
to take it?
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WARNER: Right.
[621]
And you thought it was because
he wanted his mother...
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WARNER:
Yes, your honor.
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So, you... Okay.
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Okay, I have a question
to Rochell.
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If it comes back
and that is his
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are... Is my grandma even
going to be able to see
the baby?
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You cannot take him...
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'Cause you are
acting all funny.
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You act so funny.
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BRUGGER: I'm so funny?
But, but, why weren't y'all
at the baby shower?
[638]
VEASLEY: I wasn't there
because my one-year old
was sick.
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I invited you to his birthday.
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And I talked to you.
What did I tell you?
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BRUGGER: You didn't show up.
[643]
And what did I tell you?
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That I don't
invite you guys.
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I'm done.
[647]
Did you guys ever come over
to my house to see him?
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You came a couple times,
you never did.
[650]
No, I didn't.
[651]
I just have my own
kids, let's just be
real about it.
[655]
VEASLEY: So, no,
I didn't come.
[655]
(AUDIENCE CLAPPING)
[657]
I have mine.
I have my own
kids...
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I'm answering
for my grandma.
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My grandma cares
about him.
[662]
Parrish cared about him,
I'm asking for him.
[664]
She has came to my house.
[664]
WARNER: Yes.
[666]
To see my son.
[667]
<i> Like maybe
three times, four.</i>
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<i> Every time they have
seen my son,</i>
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me and Parrish
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packed all the kids up
and we had to go
to their house.
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After my son was born,
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my family was at the house
all the time,
[681]
coming to see the baby
to a point, where we were
like, "Oh, my God."
[684]
"Go, home so we can
get some rest."
[686]
He was mad because
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they were not embracing
the fact that he finally
did have a kid.
[692]
And I can see that
it hurts you
[693]
because you remember
that it hurt him.
[695]
BRUGGER: Mmm-hmm.
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He was like, "You know,
I thought I couldn't have
kids for all these years."
[700]
<i> "Now, I have this son
and they are not
embracing it."</i>
[704]
<i> However they feel about me,</i>
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feel how you feel about me.
[707]
But, them trying to keep
the ashes away from my son,
[711]
if my son is entitled, to...
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I don't even have
the ashes.
[712]
Money...
[714]
Anything that he should
be entitled to...
[718]
(AUDIENCE CLAP)
[718]
Your honor.
[719]
They are not...
[720]
We they keep this stuff
it's not hurting me.
[723]
Ms. Brugger, they were clear,
they think you are just
interested in the money.
[727]
BRUGGER: The money doesn't
come to me.
[730]
The money will go in
an account, in a trust fund
for my son.
[734]
It doesn't come to me.
[735]
Okay, I would like to hear
from you witness
at this time.
[737]
Sir, would you please
stand up at the podium?
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MAN: Yes, ma'am.
[739]
JUDGE LAKE: State your name
for the court.
[741]
My name is Clabrine
Harvey Jr.
[743]
And Mr. Harvey, you are...
[746]
Parrish's father
and Parrish Jr.'s
grandfather.
[749]
And what would you like
to add to this situation?
[752]
HARVEY: All I want to say
first of all,
[753]
is that we are not here
to assassinate each other's
character.
[757]
And I will admit
that I was not there...
[760]
Okay.
[760]
As much as I could
have been for Parrish.
[762]
Okay.
[763]
You know...
But,
[766]
they didn't say nothing
about the part
[768]
where I tried to get custody
of my son Parrish
when he was a baby
[772]
when his mama was out
on the streets doing things
[774]
<i> that she wasn't
supposed to doing.</i>
[776]
WARNER:<i>
Okay, don't even go there.</i>
[776]
(INDISTINCT ARGUING)
[779]
I don't have my daughter and
now I don't have my son.
[779]
I tried to get custody.
[784]
Don't go there.
[786]
Oh, you know I loved
you daughter don't give me
that fake crocodile tears.
[789]
Don't go there.
[790]
HARVEY: Your fake crocodile...
[792]
Family, I need you to bring
it down. I know this is
an emotional time.
[795]
I know it.
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JUDGE LAKE: I would like
for you, Mr. Harvey,
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to testify as to why
you are so certain
[802]
that Parrish Jr. is in fact
your son's son?
[808]
He was proud of his son,
he told me that was his son.
[812]
The boy has got a little bit
of me, ain't he?
He looks like me...
[814]
VEASLEY: Your honor, we just
wanna make sure that little
Parrish is Parrish's.
[818]
And to be clear, your doubt
is rooted in him possibly
being sterile?
[825]
VEASLEY: And just that
he looks nothing like him,
like...
[828]
And the lack of
family resemblance.
[830]
Yeah, and I always used to
joke with Parrish, like,
[832]
"No, he is too cute
to be your baby."
[834]
Like, me and him always
joked around like that.
[837]
You, know, I still
love my son even though
he's not here.
[841]
I love him to death.
[843]
We shouldn't have even
been here.
[844]
That's his son.
[846]
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDS)
[848]
He would not have
wanted this.
[851]
That's why she said
nothing while he
was alive because
[855]
he told everyone,
this is his son.
[858]
If it wasn't for him,
my son would not have
been named Parrish.
[862]
He adamant about him being
named Parrish Jr.
[866]
WARNER: He should be.
[868]
So, if he didn't deny him,
[871]
there's no reason
for you guys to.
[873]
You guys have no legitimate
reason.
[873]
(AUDIENCE CLAPPING)
[875]
Then it just goes to...
[878]
That you low-key manipulated
him with the baby.
[882]
He is a grown man.
[884]
There is no way I can
manipulate.
[884]
You did.
[885]
You did.
[887]
The only way to move forward
is to get the results.
[889]
Jerome, may I have
the envelope please?
[891]
(AUDIENCE CLAPPING)
[906]
Before I read the result,
I just want to be clear that
in order to determine
[910]
<i> if Parrish Brooks Jr.</i>
[912]
is the child of
Parrish Brooks Sr.,
the deceased,
[917]
we performed a
grand-parentage DNA test.
[922]
We fortunately had
Clabrine Harvey's DNA.
[925]
The results will determine
if there is a viable
relationship between the child
[931]
Parrish Brooks Jr.,
[933]
and the grandfather,
[935]
Clabrine Harvey.
[937]
Are we clear about that?
[939]
BRUGGER: Yes.
[939]
Okay.
[940]
In the Case of<i>
Brugger v. Warner,</i>
[944]
when it comes to
one-year old
Parrish Brooks Jr.,
[950]
it has been determined
by this court
[953]
Mr. Harvey
[956]
is related to
Parrish Brooks Jr.
[960]
Therefore Parrish Brooks Sr.
is also related
[966]
to Parrish Brooks Jr.
[966]
(APPLAUSE)
[970]
WARNER: Okay, I owe you
an apology.
[971]
HARVEY: Something we
already knew.
[973]
WARNER: I owe you
an apology.
[975]
Something we
already knew.
[977]
Well, now, I am sure.
[978]
You had no reason
to be unsure.
[981]
And for this child's sake,
let's start new.
[984]
The truth is always a great
starting point.
[988]
And even though you knew it,
[990]
Ms. Brugger.
[991]
And even though you felt like
you knew it, Mr. Harvey,
without a doubt,
[995]
the point is they didn't
have that clarity.
[998]
And you can blame them
for it for the rest
of the child's life,
[1001]
and affect the child's life,
or you can forgive them
and move on from it,
[1005]
so that you both can
positively affect the child's
life, you get it?
[1009]
If you need
[1011]
help, resources, counseling
we are going to provide
that for you.
[1015]
Because Parrish Jr.
is what's most important.
[1018]
He is beautiful little boy.
[1020]
Okay, I wish you
the best of luck, family.
The court is adjourned.
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