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JUDY WOODRUFF: We return now to the Republican efforts to overhaul the tax code.
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Both the Senate and House tax bills are large and complex pieces of legislation, and they
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could affect key sectors of the American economy and society that have not gotten as much attention.
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One of those is the potential impact on higher education, and that's our focus of our weekly
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Making the Grade segment.
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John Yang has the story.
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JOHN YANG: Judy, the Senate and the House tax bills could make higher education more
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expensive for some students, though in different ways.
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The biggest changes are in the House bill, which would end the deduction for interest
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paid on student loans.
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Some 12 million people used that deduction in 2015, the last year reported by the IRS.
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Danielle Douglas-Gabriel covers the economics of education for The Washington Post, and
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she joins us now from Hartford, Connecticut.
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Danielle, thanks for joining us.
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Now, the House bill does away with the deductibility of student loan interest.
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How does that work under current law?
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL, The Washington Post: So, people who are paying down their student
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loans can deduct up to $2,500 worth of interest every year.
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So folks who have higher balances tend to benefit the most from this.
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On average, people get about maybe $200 worth of a deduction from this particular credit,
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but it is fairly popular.
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About three in 10 of the 44 million Americans who have student loan debt take advantage
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of this every particular benefit.
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JOHN YANG: So a lot of people use it, though it sounds like the benefit is relatively small.
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Fairly.
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Still, for folks who are paying down their loans while paying for a house and taking
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care of their family, a lot of them say that every little bit helps.
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So they were pretty disappointed to see the House want the take aim at this.
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And I think those voices must have been heard in the Senate, which decided not to take aim
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at this particular tax benefit.
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JOHN YANG: But it will be on the table when they try to reconcile the two bills?
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Yes.
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JOHN YANG: And then taxing tuition waivers as income.
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Tuition waivers, different from scholarships, right?
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Yes.
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So, tuition waivers are what universities tend to offer their teaching and research
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assistants in exchange for the work that they do.
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In addition to offering these students stipends to cover the cost of living and such, they
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also cover their tuition.
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Now, what this would mean is someone who is attending a program that costs, say, $30,000,
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$40,000 in tuition would -- and also being paid maybe, let's say, $20,000 of a stipend
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a year, would instead of being taxed on that $20,000 stipend, would now be taxed on the
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full $50,000 to $60,000 of tuition waiver, as well as that stipend.
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So that could be a pretty substantial difference for a lot of graduate students that are barely
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getting by on the money that they're earning so far.
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So very many of them are concerned and a lot of them started to mobilize and take their
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concerns to Capitol Hill, and I think that's another reason why we saw the waiver not make
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it into the Senate plan.
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JOHN YANG: And then one thing that is in both bills is taxing some universities' endowments.
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Correct.
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So, there is a proposal right now that would impose a 1.4 percent excise tax on the net
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investment income of universities, private universities, that is, whose students -- whose
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endowments are equal to about $250,000 per full-time student.
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This pretty much addresses maybe 60 to 70 schools.
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It was initially -- when the House proposed this particular tax, they had said $100,000
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per full-time students, which would have affected double the amount of schools, but there has
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been a lot of lobbying around this particular issue, because it's not only the Harvards,
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Princetons and really big brand-name schools that are affected by this, but some small
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liberal arts colleges that are really concerned about how this is going to affect their bottom
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line and their ability to offer financial aid to their students.
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JOHN YANG: Is there a policy goal there?
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: That's what's unclear at this point.
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So, when there was some discussion about taxing endowments maybe a year ago, there were a
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lot of -- there were hearings in the House around the idea of perhaps getting universities
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to ensure that more of their endowments are used to help lower the cost of college.
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So, this was at that point an affordability issue.
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Well, that piece is not a part of this legislation whatsoever.
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It's not like the money that they're taking from these endowments is going to be used
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to lower the cost of college by offering more grants and scholarships.
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It's just going to offset any other kind of tax -- corporate tax decreases that we might
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see as a result of these plans.
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And a lot of people are very concerned about that aspect.
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Folks could wrap their heads around the idea that we should incentivize universities to
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spend more of their endowment money on financial aid, but they can't necessarily wrap their
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heads around the idea of imposing this tax for the sake of helping corporations.
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JOHN YANG: Danielle Douglas-Gabriel of The Washington Post on the tax plans and higher
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education, thank you very much.
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DANIELLE DOUGLAS-GABRIEL: Thank you.