MBA in USA: Salary, Fees | Journey To 100% Scholarship - YouTube

Channel: Singh in USA

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-It's $80,000 for two years.
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-Oh my God. -Yes, MBA.
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-Hi, guys. We have Arpit, Shahrukh Khan of US.
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We filmed a video on Valentine's Day,
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but now he will be sharing his MBA journey,
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how he got scholarship as an MBA applicant at Georgia Tech.
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-I completed my high school,
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couldn't get in IIT, AIEEE et cetera. Took a drop, went to Kota.
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-Normal student, right?
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-Yes.
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Took a drop, went to Kota.
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There I studied for AIEEE and IIT for a year.
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I got a good rank. Didn't get selected for IIT,
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But I got into electronics and communications engineering
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at NIT Bhopal, So, I joined NIT Bhopal.
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The four years of college were great.
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The personality I have is because of my college.
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Earlier, I was a very studious guy.
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One who gets the first, second, or third rank in the class.
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No confidence, nothing. Always immersed in books.
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But NIT Bhopal was a different college.
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It wasn't only studying there,
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there were so many different things where you can explore your life.
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There were people who were studious, but
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I had given three years of life to only studying,
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11th, 12th and the drop year.
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And I was not in the mood of going there to study.
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So, what were the avenues?
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Going out with friends,
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having fun here and there, driving around.
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Meeting new people,
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My confidence went up after going there.
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from an introverted person, I became an extroverted person,
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all because of NIT Bhopal.
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I studied there.
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Got a job at Verizon straight out of college.
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I went to Chennai,
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did software engineering for three years.
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I got a promotion in software engineering.
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Salary hike was great.
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Within three years my salary package was more than double.
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which is like 26% hike each year.
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It was good.
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But I couldn't code for 10 hours every day.
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I couldn't sit for all day in front of the computer
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and debug, code-- That was not me.
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I was more people person I realized.
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At the same time I became interested in stock market investing.
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I started saving money and investing in stock, so I realized
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that, "Let's make a career in finance."
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Because I didn't have any
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monetary incentive there.
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I used to invest in stocks, but the profit was minimal.
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It wasn't that my salary was doubling up.
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It was very small, minute profit,
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but still I was willing to put in the hours
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and study about the stock market,
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and it was genuine passion,
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that in order to learn finance, I didn't had to force myself.
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First thing returning from the office I used to open an accounting book,
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First thing in the morning, I used to read about accounting,
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looked at balance sheets, income statements,
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did fundamental analysis investing.
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After that, I felt, "Man, I don't want to do software.
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I want to make my career in finance."
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I quit the job,
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passed CFA,
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wandered here and there in Mumbai.
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Mumbai because it's the finance capital. Everything finance happens there.
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Wandered here and there.
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I used to sneak into offices saying, "I want an internship."
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Literally, I used to go into offices and say, "I want to meet with the HR."
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They'd be like, "Do you have an appointment?" I'd say, "Yes, I do."
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Then that HR would come all bewildered,
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"I had no idea I had an appointment."
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I would tell them, "Actually, there's no appointment.
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I wanted to meet you because I have a genuine interest in your company."
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They would appreciate me every time. Nobody every threw me out.
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They would appreciate, take my resume but because I didn't have
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anything finance-related on my degree
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except for a CFA level 1, which
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according to HR, everyone in Mumbai has.
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Then I started working with a stock market company in Indore.
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I did IPOs for companies on the Equity capital markets.
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I worked there for about a year, a year-and-a-half.
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Then I felt that I'd be moving forward in this field.
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And in Mumbai I wasn't getting a feel
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that I'd reach the level at which I quit the software engineering.
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That it would take me a long time.
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"I need a degree to get ahead in life."
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So, I thought of applying for MBAs.
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By that time I had accumulated an experience of four and a half years.
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And it's hard to get a placement in the Indian IIMs with more than
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two years of experience.
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Because the companies come with the mentality that,
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"We'll get a guy with two years' experience and not with four years of it."
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Because the salary for a person with two years' experience different,
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the salary for a person with four years' experience different.
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The come offering salary for a person with two years' experience.
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My friends that--
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Because I was in NIT, many of my friends are in IIMs,
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pass outs, and working in different places.
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So, I asked them for advice. They said, "Go out of India.
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because there, minimum experience is five years."
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-Oh. -हाँ।
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-So, I applied to various colleges.
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I applied to Georgia Tech because there's a professor here
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from whose books I had learned accounting.
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-Wow. -हाँ।
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So, when I was applying for MBA colleges,
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I had selected the name of Georgia Tech as well,
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because I knew there is a professor who can teach me accounting here.
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Now, incidentally what happened is that Georgia Tech was the only school
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that gave me full scholarship.
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-Wow. Do you know, the students that I've seen at Georgia Tech,
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in fact, even at GSU, those who go there for MBA,
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they are paying minimum $35,000 for their entire course.
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They must be paying around $50,000 at Georgia Tech as well.
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You must have seen that? How much do pay, almost?
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-It's $80,000 for two years.
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Oh my God. -हाँ, MBA.
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So, it's $80,000 for two years.
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So, I'm not paying for tuition here.
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I'm paying for the living expenses.
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And I am really happy.
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I've been to many trips to New York.
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I've talked to many people on the Wall Street.
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-I don't like the culture a bit as of yet.
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-I mean, I got an interview,
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it didn't go through. I'm still trying.
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But the culture in Wall Street is very cutthroat.
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Meaning they'd throw you under a train to succeed.
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This is how I feel.
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-Oh my God. -That people only think about themselves,
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They don't think about you. Meaning it's a very nasty culture.
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-No, but I found the people of New York to be really nice--
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-The people of New York are different, the People of Wall Street are different.
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There's a difference between the two. Investment banks are very cutthroat.
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It's very different culture.
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You have to be someone who can look after yourself.
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There are some companies where people receive mentorship,
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like the culture of Google, Amazon, Microsoft is good I've heard.
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The work is more at Amazon,
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but the work-life balance is good at Google, Microsoft.
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My friends that are working at Microsoft, Google, they tell me
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how supportive management is.
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That the manager tries his best to allow you to learn on your own.
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That if you can't, then you take the problem to them.
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It's similar in investment banking,
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but the expectations out of you are more.
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That, "Man, you should be able to learn in three days."
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You don't learn in three days, you start receiving taunts,
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that, "Man, it's been three days and you haven't been able to learn."
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It's different culture.
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Wall Street is very different. Wall Street is all about greed.
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I know this as soon as I step into the bank.
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That people think for themselves, people only think about money,
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they don't think about you,
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and they always think about pushing themselves forward.
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And in order to push themselves forward,
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if they have to throw you under a bus,
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-they are willing to do that. -Wow.
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-They are willing to do that. I have felt that.
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Even though if you talk to a Wall Street guy who'd say,
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"No, no. We are great. No, we are great."
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But he's just whitewashing what the culture actually is.
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Now
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I am more open to other things.
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I'm looking after finance because it's my passion.
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But investment banking is not my passion,
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it is investing in the stocks, which I do here now as well.
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You can do that while doing any kind of job.
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Now I'm looking for a job where I'm facing clients,
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where I don't have to code for eight hours every day,
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where I talk with people.
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Whether it be consulting,
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or a sales-related job,
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or business development,
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where you have to find new avenues for your business.
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These jobs which require you to have a personality
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and where you have to be okay with talking to strangers,
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and I am trying to get into those field as well.
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This is my story, guys.
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-And how did you get the scholarship? That's most important.
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-Scholarship is based on the profile.
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Every college gives you a scholarship here,
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including Harvard, Stanford.
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But their standards are very high.
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They want a person who has studied from an IIT,
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then worked at Goldman Sachs,
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or at McKinsey, Bain,
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who has also worked on international
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multi-billion projects in Tokyo or something like that.
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-Oh my God. -हाँ।
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So, if you compete with that kind of guy, he'll get the scholarship
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and not me.
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But people of this caliber don't apply to Georgia Tech.
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And my profile was very different.
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I had done software, I had done banking.
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And people of this profile don't come.
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So, in order to give me an incentive to join this college,
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they gave me a scholarship.
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-Okay. -So, it's all about-
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-Standing out. -standing out.
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Georgia Tech is not one of the top 10 schools.
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I'll be frank. Harvard, Wharton, Stanford,
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these are all top 10 schools. And they are on a whole different level.
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Different kind of people go there. Meaning
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It's not like they take in mules and give out horses.
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They take in horses and give out horses.
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They only accept people
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who have achieved a lot in their life,
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and they accept those people.
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And since they are over-achievers in their life,
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they get out and achieve even more.
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It's not something that would change your life.
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You have already built something in your life
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which Harvard is now willing to appreciate,
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that, "Yes, this person has done something in his life,
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and we are willing to take him."
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Then you go to Harvard and then you achieve even more.
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Perfect. What was the pattern of the scores?
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You gave GMAT or GRE? -I gave GMAT.
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-What was your score in that? -I had 720.
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-Wow. -If you want to go to Harvard, Wharton,
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they don't even look at anything below 760 out of 800.
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-Wow. -800 में से।
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And do they look at your college GPA? How much was it for you?
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-Mine was 7.5. I'm totally a borderline average person.
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-Still getting such a big scholarship,
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like full tuition waived at Georgia Tech, it's a big thing.
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Like you might not know that undergrad के लिए
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Georgia Tech doesn't give any scholarship,
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so they pay around $40,000 per year.
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For MBA, it's so hard,
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it's even difficult to get scholarship for MBA
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as compared to for MS and CS et cetera.
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-So, he has done a phenomenal job. -When you go to an MBA school,
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it has been five years you've been out of your college.
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They don't look at your college GPA.
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Harvard would definitely look at.
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The reason is that all overachievers are applying.
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There's a person who has achieved so much in five years.
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There's another person who has achieved so much in five years.
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So, how would you differentiate? -Correct.
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-Then they compare on college GPA.
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If you're normal,
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after that GPA is something which is considered later on.
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They'll first look,
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"See, you have done five years of work experience.
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What you have achieved in those five years?"
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You will be judged based first on that.
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Then later on,
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you will be judged based on your past.
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But it doesn't work like that in IIMs because freshers apply
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at IIMs.
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How would you differentiate between freshers?
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You'd do it using pointers, right?
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But it's different for ISB.
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At ISB, they require you to have at least three years' experience.
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Then even if you don't have any pointers,
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your work experience is good,
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then you're accepted.
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-Have you received scholarship from any other school?
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How many schools did you apply to?
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-I had applied to many schools.
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I had applied to the universities in New York
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because I wanted to go to the Wall Street.
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It's easier if you're near to the Wall Street.
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I had applied to the universities in New York,
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to the University of Washington, Seattle,
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to UNC Kenan-Flagler.
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Georgetown University, Washington DC, there I had been accepted.
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-Wow, that's an incredible school. -Yes, that was a great school.
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-Yes, it's in the top 10, right?
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-It's in the top 15, and had I been there,
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I'd perhaps have a job at Wall Street by now.
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Because a lot of people from there go to the Wall Street.
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Every year about 50 to 60 people go there from that university.
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But no scholarship,
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private university--
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Georgia Tech is a government university, so it charges $80,000.
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That one's private, so it charges $150,000.
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I couldn't have been able to afford that much.
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-Meaning it's around one crore, the cost of MBA,
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including costs of food and living,
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if someone gets a scholarship-- -That was only tuition.
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$1,50,000 is for tuition.
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-Meaning it would go above one crore. -Yes.
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It would go above that.
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It's tough, but people do it.
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I know many Indians
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who take a big loan and go to Georgetown University or Harvard, Wharton.
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They see the bigger picture.
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-Yes. You get good salaries though.
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Like I've seen many who do MBA
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if you're going into the right field as a senior manager-
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meaning any senior post,
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they can easily make around 180 to 200K in New York, California,
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-right? After some experience. -Depends on the school.
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In Harvard, Wharton, $1,50,000 is the average.
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For general college MBA, it's $100,000.
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Software engineering is different.
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If you are going to a different field as a manager,
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$100K is a decent placement here.
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-It's still good. -If you compare with
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a software engineer, the software industry is different.
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If they charge $100, they only pay $20 to the employee for that work.
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They charge a lot
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and they don't have to put in a capital investment.
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They just pay salaries.
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They just set up offices and they pay salaries.
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If you look at Infosys,
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TCS, the profit margin is 40%.
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In which world do you get 40% margin?
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It happens rarely.
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I've got a HERSHEY'S in my pocket.
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Where is it?
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This is the chocolate.
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HERSHEY'S must have spent a lot to make it.
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They'd have maximum 15% profit in it.
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And how many of it would be sold? Not much gets sold.
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But go in the software,
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charge $100, pay $60 in salaries.
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-And-- -It becomes easier.
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-It becomes easier. That's why
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you get a higher salary in that sector since the profit margin is more.
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-I was a lot of fun. Thank you so much for your valuable knowledge.
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-Anytime. -We will see you guys in the next one.