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Channel: Ginny Silver - Business Coach for Creatives
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Hey, guys, it's Ginny Silver.
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And today I'm talking with Assaf Lichtash from Pershing Square
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Law firm.
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Assaf
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Can you let me know, just in short, what your company does,
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what your law firm offers and who you work with?
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Well, we are.
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California is only Edd law firm.
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We deal with pretty much anything that has to do with the
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Edd. But primarily, we represent individuals in appealing
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denied Edd benefits.
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Think it's important to point out that while I am an attorney
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and I work with a law firm that represent individuals who
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have issues with the Edd, nothing that's being said here is
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being said as a legal advice.
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What this is for is really to educate the public and provide
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information for my own experiences to help people understand
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their situation, assess their situation, and really just
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educate themselves about what their claims, what could be
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wrong with your claims, and how they can get to receiving
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their anything.
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But if it's faster, what sort of documents should they have
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prepared? How should they prepare themselves before or during
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that process?
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Right.
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So whenever you follow an appeal, first of all, people should
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notifying. An appeal is free.
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Okay?
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The whole process is completely free.
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You don't have to pay anything.
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There's no, you know, court fees, there's no filing fees,
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none of that stuff.
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All you have to do is pay for the postage of sending the
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appeal later.
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As far as what I would recommend, first of all, to increase
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your appeals are like number gates.
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Okay?
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It's about making sure you have the highest possible chance.
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And there are many, many factors in place to determine what
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your chances are.
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Right?
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It starts with what you do in your case.
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But the nature of your case is how many documents you have
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to back up what you have to say, you know, your judge.
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That's a big deal, how you prepare for it.
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So on.
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So in order to increase your chance of success, you can take
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a few steps that will definitely do that.
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The first thing is value appeal on time.
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This, for example.
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Okay.
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That has a bunch of numbers and money on it.
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There's another side to it.
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Read the other side.
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The other side is actually telling you about your appeal.
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Right?
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This is something that you want to consider.
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There's a deadline.
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Now, if you miss a deadline and you file an appeal late,
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there's still a possibility that your appeal will be considered
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if it was like, for good cause.
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But don't put yourself up for the net position.
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Right?
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File the appeal in time so that you can you enjoy the certainty
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that your case will be reviewed on the merits and not be
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dismissed for some silly procedural issue that was totally
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avoidable. Second thing is, everything you say you're going
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to be testifying under oath when you discuss things with
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a judgment.
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When you test the Finder.
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Oh, that in and of itself is value is evidence, right?
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Sworn testimony.
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It has a strong value as evidence.
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But you have to understand, the judge is sitting there listening
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to a lot of stories from a lot of people like you, and they
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want to know.
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Or I'm sure the question process their mind about whether
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what you're saying is actually true.
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So you can increase the chance of being found credible by
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supporting what we say with some documents.
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You don't have to have a document support every word that
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comes out of your file, but you should have some documents
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to support generally, you know, the main ideas of what you're
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saying a lot of times, documents that can help are W 2 10
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89 Pay Stubs Right.
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These are documents that we really see being busy in hearings.
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It really depends on the nature of the hearing, what the
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issues are.
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Right.
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I would recommend that you read closely the notice of hearing
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that you get and understand what the issues are to determine
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what you're going to say in advance and then find documents
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to back it up so that you can come off as credible at a facet
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of credibility to whatever it is you're saying.
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Send the documents ahead of time because the cab is very
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busy and the Pills Born Califon Trips Pills Board, they're
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very busy.
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And it may take there may be a gap for you between the time
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that you send the documents and the time the judge actually
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receives them and gets to review them.
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To be aware of that, I would say if you can, whenever you
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get denied benefits, there's a legal basis for your deli.
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Read and understand the law.
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It may not be what you think it is.
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There may be a totally different legal mechanism than what
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you're anticipating that will determine whether you're going
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to get benefits or not.
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So spend the time to understand.
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Okay.
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Sometimes there are multiple laws in play, right?
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There's an interaction between just one thing.
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There are three bodies of law that that really govern the
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salt. And the main one is done info Insurance, Pills Board.
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And then there's the California Code regulations, Title 22
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that deals with all the, you know, things that have to do
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with hearings and equal standards around this hearing really
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interpret a lot of the things that are in the appeals that
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the unemployment insurance code.
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And then there's also the government code, some of the things
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I have to do with the Edd.
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So, you know, sometimes there's an interplay between those,
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and you need to sort of get into it.
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And if it's too complicated, of course, maybe getting representation
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is there's a good idea.
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But certainly in some cases, it's simple enough for you to
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do it yourself.
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So if you want to increase your chance of success, spend
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the time doing that.
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Insurance Appeals Board has a monthly meeting.
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Very interesting for Unity Nerds.
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For me, like me to watch and they go over the different things
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and trends and changes that are happening with their system.
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One of the things that came up is, you know, they're saying
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that it takes eight weeks for the easy to process an appeal.
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So imagine if you are receiving a disqualification letter.
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This is the process you have to go through.
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You have to wait eight weeks for the AI to actually transmit
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the appeal from them to the appeals board.
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Send the appeals board, which is already flat with appeals,
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has to find a time for hearing, which will take weeks.
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Eight weeks to transmit.
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Just to transmit just to transmit is eight weeks.
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Wow.
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That it's complete idle time.
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So a lot of things could happen to those eight weeks.
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It would promote your case, and you wouldn't have to wait
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as well.
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And then after a decision is made, it takes sent for the
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easy to implement that as well, and you may be subject to
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an additional review.
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So the discussion was, how can we narrow that time frame
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of eight weeks?
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Is there anything we can do?
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So they discuss possibly having people file appeal directly
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with the appeals board instead of finding them with Ed.
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That requires some change in the regulations, because the
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regulations say you have to pay the Department the Edd, not
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with the appeals board.
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So the chair of the Board of Appeals, Marty Block, asked
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their attorney, what happens if the Edd is supposed to transfer
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quickly? Only according to the law.
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What happens if they don't transfer properties?
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There anything they can do to penalize the and the answer
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is no, they can't do anything to be in it.
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And I think that's quite essentially why we're here, because,
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you know, there is no price for inefficacy.
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There is no price to be paid for bad results.
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So with appeals, you referenced the time frame of once it
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is transmitted, it can take up to eight weeks for it to be
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received. Did I get that correct?
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Yes.
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Unfortunately, you got it right.
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Okay.
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So after that eight week period when it is received, what's
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the time frame following that happens is after eight weeks,
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the appeals board received notice of transit that there's
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an individual, a claimant, file, an appeal, and they get
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a file.
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The file contains basically the entire universe of documents
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that have made the Edd make the decision that they made.
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It has usually claim notes, which is a whole history of all
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your phone call and all the actions and activities that have
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to happen in your case.
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It has the documents that were submitted by you or documents
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that the Add used to consider your benefits, any summaries
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of interviews that they have with you, pretty much everything
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that I do with your claim.
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So when they get it, the CIB gets it.
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They need to set up a hearing date.
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Now, it takes a long time because there's so many hearings
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and you can only reduce the time of hearing so much because
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it is a timely process or at a time consuming process.
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So you can expect to wait at least this time of year for
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several weeks before you even get a hearing date.
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I would say four to 6 weeks is a reasonable time frame to
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wait. So we're talking about eight weeks plus four to 6 weeks
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waiting on hearing date.
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Okay.
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When you get a hearing date, you're notified 10 days or the
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notice of hearing, and the file that I just talked about
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are sent over to you, and you received that.
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They're sent over to you 10 days before the hearing.
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You receive them probably a week before the hearing, and
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then you just need to start preparing.
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Okay.
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I mean, sending documents, identifying them, figuring out
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what the law is to figure out what you're going to say, and
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so on.
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Right now, all the hearings are done over the phone.
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It used to be that the hearings were done in person because
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the edemic and social distancing, they're all done over the
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phone by default.
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There's no need to request it.
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Then the hearing takes place and the judge needs to make
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a decision that might not happen.
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It's not going to happen right away.
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It's going to happen now.
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The judges are really, really effective, and they do it very
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fast. Usually the decision is rendered within a few days,
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and then it's faxed over back to the Edd.
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When it's faxed back over to the units, it's back in the
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rabbit hole.
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I mean, who knows when they're going to respond to it?
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But I found it at least now, at this point in time, it's
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going through additional reviews because of what we talked
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about earlier, the Edd has turned off the eligibility and
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all the automatic screening systems during the epidemic.
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So if your claim is pre 2,021, I would anticipate that it's
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going to go through an additional review and you won't be
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paid right away, even if you have a favorable determination.
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And that's how you have realities that are created, like
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what I described to you earlier, one of my clients who has
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paid zero dollars from the beginning of the epidemic March
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20 and 20 until now, because you have to go to jump through
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all these hoops.
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It was such a long time.
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Would there be any appeal specific phone number or contact
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information aside from the general customer service line?
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That claimant should be calling if they need to check on
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the status of their appeal, or is it all done through the
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main customer service line?
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Okay.
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So once your appeal is transmitted to the CIP by the Add,
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you'll receive a notice of acknowledgement in the mail, typically.
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Okay.
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Not of the time, but certainly most of the time.
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And it's going to tell you in which appeals office your appeal
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is in, and you can call the Peel office and ask them when
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I'm going to get a hearing that they'll give you an estimate.
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Okay.
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The appeals offices are very accessible.
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There is no significant waiting time for them.
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They answer questions.
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They have always a judge on duty who is able to answer more
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specific or complicated legal questions or anything like
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that. But generally, the people are friendly, helpful and
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informative. But we have to also keep in mind they're limited.
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They can only help you with your appeal.
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They can't fix your problem.
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They're not the if you can't log in to your UI online or
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if you're pending forever.
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And another thing that Unfortunately they can't do is they
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cannot enforce the decision.
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So if you have a favorable decision and now you're waiting
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on the age to actually process it and pay you the money,
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calling the IV about this is not going to make a difference.
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I just don't have the legal authority to do that.
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So while your case is an appeal, you can expect a relatively
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open, transparent and efficient process, the one that goes
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back to the Edd.
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You're back in this black hole of information.
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I have to pretty much find the information for self or use
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the help of content that's online.
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Once it has been processed, you had your appeal, you had
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the decision in your favor.
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Is there any sort of time frame for the Ed to then apply
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that to your account that you've seen?
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Right.
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So the law again says that the time frame is promptly and
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promptly means as soon as possible.
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Now, there's another thing it says once it's determined you're
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eligible, they have to dispense the money.
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Frankly, paying is not hard.
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They can do that with a full on the switch.
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I think that's what I've seen, at least.
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But the question is, do they really find you eligible when
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there's a question whether you're eligible?
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If they haven't gone through eligibility screening earlier
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in your claim?
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If your claim predates 20 21, it's very likely that the eligibility
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screen goes off.
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So they have a reason to believe that you might not be eligible.
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And they can put it through another process.
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So they're not bound by any specific time frame.
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And as long as it takes to legal stand point, it can give
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as long as it takes to what issues are.
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Alright.
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Well, thank you so much for answering so many of those questions.
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I really appreciate your time.
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Can you just real quick give us a quick recap of where claimants
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can locate you if they're interested in obtaining more information
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about your services and your firm.
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So the best place to reach us is on our website, www dot
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pushing square law dot com.
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And we have chat phone pretty much a bunch of ways to get
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a hold of us.
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So we're available for our business hours Monday through
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Friday. Thank you so much.
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