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Social Security Maximization - YouTube
Channel: Cardinal Advisors
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Today's Cardinal Lesson- we're
talking about Social Security.
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And specifically this time of year, it's the
1st of February, and the numbers are just posted
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on the Social Security system. In your my Social
Security Account. So I just ran my own statement,
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they actually went up over the weekend, and so I
printed it off and it's a good time to just talk
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about all the subjects that we're talking about
today. And we're going to use me as the example.
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Now if you do not have a my Social Security
account, and you're getting ready for a
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retirement, which I'm thinking you're probably
doing if you're watching my series of videos.
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This is a must do, okay. So I'm going to
go over this quickly, you go to SSA.GOV.
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And then you hit on the button that says either
‘Sign Up or Sign In’ and if you don't have an
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account it's going to be ‘Sign Up.’ And once you
click on that, it's going to have a Sign-Up. It's
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going to do a bunch of Identity Verification, and
what I… don't do this in a hurry. Because I have
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several people come back to me, when they're doing
this, when we're starting a financial plan. And
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they're trying to get the account open under My
Social Security, so they can get this statement.
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And it kicks them out and then they've got to
call Social Security. And my goal for any of my
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listeners, anybody I'm doing a financial plan, is
to never have to talk to Social Security. The best
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situation is if we can deal with them online, but
for this one, if you mess this up they're going to
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do Identity Verification. Which they really run
your Credit Report and they ask you did you own:
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a you.. know a ‘99 Buick, a 2012 Cadillac, or a
BMW? You know they just give you a choice. And did
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you have a Mortgage with ‘XYZ’ Bank? A-B-C bank?
You need to get those things correct. And then
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I think they give you a second chance. But it's
really obvious to me that people are doing this
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in a hurry, and when they do it in a hurry they
get kicked out. And then it's forever getting one,
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but you need to get you a My Social Security
account. And then once it's open, make sure you
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keep your password in handy, and your User ID.
You need to open one of these for your Spouse
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or your Spouse needs to do it, and if you're
going to come to me for help, and we're going
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to do a financial plan together- This is going
to be one of the requirements. Is, I'm going to
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get this statement from you: one of many things
that you're going to send in. So just important
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if you get one thing out of this video is get this
account, and then if you already have an account,
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go ahead and print your Social Security statement.
Because they just added your 2021 earnings. I mean
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they just plugged them in, and so these numbers
that I'm gonna go over here, for me and my wife,
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they go up a little bit every year. Because
what they predicted last year, it's now more
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for a number of reasons, we're going to be going
over that today. But I need this to do financial
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planning, you need it just to have an idea of
what you can count on from Social Security.
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So the new statement is what they're putting
out. Now it's just two pages long. It's a little
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more condensed, a little easier to read,
they got some of the garbage out of there.
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It's still a government document that you need a
decoder, like me, to help you out with. But the
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numbers that you're looking for; and these are my
numbers: is I'm 63 and ½ right now, which is, and
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they tell me on here that I can get $2,608 a month
if I file for Social Security, right now. Okay,
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which I'm not going to do, then they also tell
me at my Full Retirement Age: 66 in Eight Months.
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Which it's an odd month amount, because we're
under a phase in, but for all purposes I was born
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in 1958. That is my Full Retirement Age. And the
amount of my check is projected to be $3,360. And
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then I'm going to be one of these people- at least
the plan now- is to wait till I'm 70. And the
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amount that I can expect at 70 is $4,308 a month.
So, you know I look at that, and most people that
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before they meet me and we're talking about
financial planning, I'm counseling with them
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about this. They'll immediately say, ‘Oh yeah
I've looked at my statement. I got my statement.’
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And they'll.. they'll quote one of these numbers.
And they'll say that's when I'm going to take it.
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I've already got a plan, okay, and that's fine.
And I'm going to work with that, but what I do in
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Financial Planning is, could we look at some other
options, even though we're not going to do that.
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Is there's a whole lot to look at. In fact, I have
another video on YouTube that talks about Seven
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Factors you need to take into consideration
that are unique to you in your situation
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before you make that decision, finally. So
I'm not going to be going over those today,
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but off of the statement, these are the three
numbers. Is the numbers, if you took it right now,
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the number if you waited till your Full Retirement
Age, or if you waited till 70, that's the number.
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Now for my spouse, she has her own
record, but what happens is on her
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own record, because she pretty much has taken
care of our children for the last 30 years.
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And she worked some, out of college, and
some a little bit later. And her benefit
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is small enough that she's going to be way
better off filing as the Spouse of me. So,
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and her Full Retirement Age is 66 and 10 months.
So we still need her statement or she still needs
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a Social Security Account. I don't have it in here
today but if you're doing this on both of you,
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you don't want to say, ‘Oh my wife's
like that.’ We'll still run her record,
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I want to verify all of that. She's at 66 and
10 months, because she's one year younger-
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is her Full Retirement Age and what she'll receive
is my amount of $3,360. You divide that by two,
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so she's going to get 50% of that or $1,680 a
month is her benefit, while I'm still living. You
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know if I pass away before she does, so instead of
her benefit, she's going to get my benefit, okay.
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Now what this whole thing is about for people
that haven't taken Social Security, yet,
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is you need a filing strategy, okay. Now the whole
video has parts for those of you that are already
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taking your Social Security. So don't disconnect
now, but it's just the.. the crux of this video,
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is developing a filing strategy at
a point in the future that's going
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to be optimal for you and your situation.
So, now we're going to go over mine, okay.
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So if you know where I have a minimum of
66 and 8 months. Meaning that I have to..
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I have to at least file at my Full Retirement
Age or after, mainly around my wife's amount.
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But if you, just my strategy is I'm gonna get at
70: $4,308 a month right off of here. And my wife
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is not gonna get half of that amount. She's
going to get half of this amount which is $1680,
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or it's almost $6,000 a month which is a
pretty substantial Social Security Check.
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If we're both alive when I'm 70 and she's 69
and we're looking forward to a number of years
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of collecting Social Security, enjoying
retirement. That's a that's a pretty nice
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check by the month to get from the government back
on the money that we've paid in. Now the actual
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amount that we get in 6 and ½ years is going
to be larger than this, really for two reasons.
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First reason is the Social Security Cost of
Living Adjustments. For 2022, the people that
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are getting Social Security right now. They got a
5.9% inflation increase because all this inflation
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that's going on. So that made my numbers that
are here off.. increase because even though I'm
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not getting Social Security now, that got baked
into these numbers. And that's going to go on
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every year until I'm 70. Now I hope we don't have
inflation that high, sustained for six years,
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I'm not wishing that. But if that did
happen, this number is going to be
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much larger because of all the years of that. The
second reason is I'm going to have six more years
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at the highest earnings potential. So if we want
to get technical, these numbers are pretty good,
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but they're not as big as they could have
been. Because what Social Security does,
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is they take your 35 or they take my 35 highest
years of earnings, where I paid in the most
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Social Security. And then they base it to come
up with these numbers, and I went through my
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system and I looked at it, and I've at 28 of my 35
years, I've made the maximum for Social Security.
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And then the other seven years that are
plugged in there, are something short of that,
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probably not a lot short of that, but they're
short of that. So I have six more years
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where I'm gonna earn at the maximum, and it's
consequently that this number could be $7-8,000
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a month by the time we're actually collecting
it. But in any case, for planning purposes we're
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going to use this number, and then we're going
to put into the software for you, and for me.
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We're going to estimate Inflation and estimate all
of those factors, but nonetheless, we got this as
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a baseline to work with. Now, what then becomes,
is we start looking at the Retirement Income Plan,
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so we know we got this coming in and
then we got the rest of my other assets
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where I'm going to create an income once I retire.
And I'm fortunate that I've saved a lot of wealth
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over the years, some in Retirement Accounts,
some not in Retirement Accounts. Some in Life
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Insurance cash values that are accessible.
So I'm going to have a pot of resources
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available to me at 70 when I'm collecting
this by the month. And for Social Security,
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the way they calculate the
Income Taxes on Social Security,
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is by your other income. So you know it says
only a portion of Social Security is taxable,
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and it's taxable at either 0%,
somewhere in between, or 85%
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of the income- or countable is a better word,
than taxes. So if we call this $72,000 a year,
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my preference is to count zero of it toward my..
um Income Tax Bill. But I probably have to pay
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a little bit of tax, but 85% of that amount
that's only going to happen if I have a whole
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bunch of other income besides Social Security.
And what I've done in my planning to date and
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I continue to do over the next six years, is
to do a lot of Roth Conversions so that I have
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other assets that I can tap to supplement my
income. And that I won't have to pay Taxes
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on Distributions from a Roth IRA. Nor do I have
to pay Taxes on Distributions from my Cash Value
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Life Insurance. So that's a backup pot of money
that's available to supplement my income. And
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frankly, if I don't need any more than that in
any given year, then I could just take nothing
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out of there. And just let them let them keep,
let them keep growing Tax-Free. Now in any case,
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your other income, besides Social Security from
a planning- we need to get that as much of that
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as we can in the Tax-Free, so that you really can
live a a Tax-Free or a very Low-Tax Retirement.
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Because in the end, it really doesn't matter, the
number of the money you get you just need to have
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enough money coming in every month to do what you
want to do. You know and I'm I'm thinking that
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$10,000 a month after Taxes, because
my Taxes are going to be very low,
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would be a pretty nice allowance for retirement.
And you know it's a little over $300 a day,
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that it's kind of hard to spend all that kind
of money unless you're out buying boats. And
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you know we already have a second home, a
third home, I don't know taking $100,000
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vacations or something. And most people in
their 70’s are not doing that kind of stuff.
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I mean most people that I work with, I have a lot
of clients that live just fine off of this. Now,
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what I want to get across to everybody is, if
I've talked larger numbers and you're sitting
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here watching that say, ‘Well that guy's done
real well. That doesn't… how does that apply
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to me?’ Well, listen, the work I do for people,
who are not perhaps as successful as they would
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have liked to have been, or they had a job
that was still successful. They just they
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have a smaller Social Security check. They have
smaller accounts than I was talking about. Look
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that's what we're in business to do, as I get the
most satisfaction out of helping people. If you
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cut these numbers in half and you cut this number
in half, and then you still have other resources
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over here. This actually making their Income Tax
Free, is actually easier to do for those people.
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So this is all inclusive and if you've got way
more money than all of this, and you might be
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saying, ‘Well, I'm just going to have to pay a lot
of tax on my Social Security.’ Well not so quick.
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I mean we can come up with a budget and get enough
Roth Conversions that we can defer Taxes. Postpone
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Taxes. Get into Tax-Free, so that you're able
to live off of low lower Tax or low Tax money
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and then just defer Taxes on the rest of your
Estate to pass on to the next generation. So
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we cover the spectrum in Financial Planning,
and it's probably the easiest for to do a lot
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of the work on people that have less. I'm
Hans Scheil and I thank you for listening.
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