Why Investing in Sports Cards Is Taking Off | Niche Markets | WSJ - YouTube

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- [Narrator] The market for sports trading cards is booming.
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- Sports is a lot of people's escape.
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Why not invest in a player as opposed
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to investing in stock?
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- [Narrator] The top 25 most expensive cards
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in history were sold in the last two years,
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including an Honus Wagner card sold
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for over $6.6 million.
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- A lot of us were holding on these cards for 30 years,
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hoping some day that they'd be worth something,
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hoping some day I could say I told you so.
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- [Reporter] Big time investors like hedge funds
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are also in on it.
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They've begun buying trading cards
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as alternatives to equities.
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- It's culture as an asset, it's nostalgia as an asset.
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- [Narrator] So how did trading cards balloon
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into a multi-billion dollar industry?
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And why are both everyday people
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and big name investors turning to trading cards
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as investment assets?
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This is Niche Markets,
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a series that examines small, lesser-known markets
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that despite their size, punch well above their weight.
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- In front of us, we have a bunch of cards,
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one of 'em being as early as the 1934.
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A famous card called the Goudey,
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all the way down to Honus Wagner and Joe DiMaggio.
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We believe that they are authentic.
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We'll send them in to get graded.
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- [Narrator] To verify a card's authenticity
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and determine how much it's worth,
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today's card owners rely on a practice known as grading.
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Collectors send their raw or ungraded cards
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to grading agencies where their cards will be examined
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and assigned a 1 through 10 grade.
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Card scores are based on four different factors:
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centering, corners, edges and surface.
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- So we ended up getting them all graded.
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They all came back real.
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One is the lowest grade you can receive.
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That is as terrible as it comes.
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There's a crease right down the entire middle of it,
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corners are all peeled up, edges are all dinged up.
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This card's probably around a 100 to $200 card raw
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but once you get it graded, it's real,
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it's authenticated, it's now a one.
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We now know the value.
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It's around 800 to $1,000.
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To know that its value is worth X or Y
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because of its grade is what really turned this hobby
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into what it is now as a stock market.
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- [Narrator] In the past, buyers had to take a seller's word
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on the legitimacy of a card's condition
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but today thanks to grading companies like PSA,
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Beckett and SGC acting as neutral arbiters of quality,
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a card's price is much easier to verify.
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- One of the things my mom always said
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that I couldn't really have an answer for
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was that card's not worth $20 until you get someone
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to give $20 for it.
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And that's no longer true.
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- [Narrator] Burt Deveau, Jesse Deveau,
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and Jeffrey Ferraro are the owners
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of FRESHPULLZ, a trading card shop located
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in the outskirts of Boston.
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The three friends opened the store in May
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after making a small fortune auctioning cards online.
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- We did $2 million in sales.
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We should break the $3 million mark
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within the next month by the end of September.
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- [Narrator] Since the trio started their business
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in March of 2020, they've all left their jobs
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in the hospitality industry,
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and seen their material circumstances transformed.
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- I used to work 70 hours a week
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in a kitchen and be absolutely miserable.
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Now I can work 150 hours here
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and it doesn't seem like 150 hours.
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- [Narrator] FRESHPULLZ's story is but one example
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of card owners striking it rich in today's market.
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Since the pandemic began,
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reports of former hobbyists digging up their old collections
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and discovering a windfall have not been uncommon.
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Sports cards have existed since the early 1900s
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but in the 1980s and 1990s,
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prices for newer cards cratered
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after manufacturers flooded the market.
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- Ken Griffey Jr., his rookie card is known
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for being one of the most mass-produced cards,
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and it's just not valuable.
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- [Narrator] The pandemic also triggered a string
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of deals and acquisitions that have shaken up the industry.
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Earlier this year, the investment firm The Chernin Group,
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along with celebrities like Mark Cuban and Kevin Durant
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invested $40 million in one
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of the industry's best-known auction houses,
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Goldin Auctions.
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This July, Goldin was acquired
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by the investment group Collectors Holdings.
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- It's an exciting time for everybody here at Goldin.
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It's an exciting time for the industry as a whole.
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- [Narrator] Also in July,
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Blackstone acquired a majority stake
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in the grading company Certified Collectibles Group,
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which values CGC at more than $500 million.
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- These people have people to tell them
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where to invest their money.
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They're not telling them to invest billions
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of dollars into the card market for it to just collapse.
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- Right now I'm holding two of my most favorite cards.
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They both are a 1997 Kobe Bryant Precious Metal Gems.
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The red version, there're 100 of them in the world.
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This is a PSA 5.5, this one's a PSA 4.5.
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This card right her I bought for $13,000.
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It's probably worth between 160 and $200,000.
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- [Narrator] Leore Alvidar was an avid card collector
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when he was younger,
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especially for Kobe Bryant cards
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but he didn't return to the hobby until 2016.
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- I went on eBay,
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and the first box of cards that I went
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and looked for was the E-X2000.
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I had never gotten that Kobe Bryant green card
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that I really wanted when I was young.
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And I saw that there were different price points,
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like some were selling for $30,
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and there was one that was selling for $3,000.
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And I was like why is one 30 and why is one $3,000?
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- [Narrator] Alvidar, who has a background in finance,
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saw opportunity in the inefficient way
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in which pricing was determined.
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- And I remember seeing that the probability,
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the expected value was positive,
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meaning if I kept buying the boxes,
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and probabilistically, I will get the Kobe Bryant card
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and then I sell it on eBay,
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I'll make 10 to $20 a box.
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- [Narrator] After five years of buying and selling cards,
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Alvidar turned his passion into a business.
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In March of 2020, he launched Alt,
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which aims to be a sort of Coinbase for collectibles
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where users can buy and sell cards,
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just like more conventional assets.
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Alt brands itself as a modern financial institution
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that allows people to invest
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in things they're passionate about,
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just like stocks.
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- When you log into Alt,
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it feels a lot like Coinbase or Robinhood or Fidelity.
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In real time, you can actually see
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how much your portfolio is worth.
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- [Narrator] Similar to how Zillow uses its Zestimate figure
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to track home prices,
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Alt created the Alt Value to track card prices.
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- The number one question when people start getting
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into cards is how much are my cards worth?
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The whole point of the Alt Value
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is to give people confidence around the values,
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and just increase some of the transparency
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that exists in the ecosystem
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but just hasn't been brought out
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and democratized on the internet so far.
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- [Narrator] Alt is just one of a new crop
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of digital services catering
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to the rapidly growing trading card market.
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Collectable and Dibbs allow users
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to buy and trade fractional shares of cards.
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StarStock brands itself as a stock market
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for sports cards.
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- All right, guys, good luck, good luck, good luck.
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FRESHPULLZ has made most of its money
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by hosting a relatively new type
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of online auction called Case Breaking.
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- Patriot Julian Edelman and a Kid Reporter.
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Nothing there to start.
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- [Narrator] Case breaking is essentially gambling
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on unboxing videos.
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A break involves groups of collectors co-investing in a case
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inside of which are packs of cards,
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and then watching a livestream of the unboxing.
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- Paton, my boy, Manning, rookie.
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Nice card, that's how we start off.
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First box, Mojo, baby.
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So there's a $2,000 box of NBA Basketball.
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10 of us spend $200 and we each get three random teams.
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So let's say you have the Celtics, the Knicks
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and the Wizards.
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I open up the box,
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every Celtics, Knicks and Wizards cards
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in that entire box all goes to you.
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- [Narrator] Days later, collectors receive the cards
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they won in the mail.
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Two packs left, two packs left.
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- One of the things that people asked us at first,
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like why would somebody pay you to open their cards?
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And it's not that they're paying us to open the cards,
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they're having an experience.
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If you take the pack home and open it by yourself
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in your bedroom, you're alone.
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When you do it with us, you're in a room full
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of your friends.
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- In the grand scheme of things, it's a casino.
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You're coming in here, and gambling.
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Most of the people in this world love sports,
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and Fantasy Football, and gambling.
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Those are the things that aren't going anywhere.
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Joshua, Kelly, Rookie.
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Too bad it wasn't a damn Herbie.
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I don't see the card market going anywhere
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for a long, long time.
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Van Jefferson.
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The card, Purple Star.
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That is fresh. - That is dope.
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