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What Will It Cost You To Live FULL-TIME On A Cruise Ship? - YouTube
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Despite all the cruises I have done, I only
once came across someone living on a cruise
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ship.
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I tried to find out from the cruise industry
how many people live or retire on their ships
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- but no-one knew.
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It seems very few do, despite how attractive
the idea seems
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It got me wondering: why do so few people
do it?
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Is it the cost?
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The practicality?
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Or do the cruise lines make it hard to do?
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I have the answers.
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If you're new here, welcome aboard.
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I'm Gary Bembridge and it's my goal to make
it fun and easy to discover, plan and enjoy
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unforgettable cruise vacations.
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Living or retiring on a cruise ship is a story
that newspapers love to cover.
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They've written frequently about Beatrice
Muller, who lived for 14 years on Cunard’s
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Queen Elizabeth 2, Lee Wachtstetter, known
as “Mama Lee”, who lived on Crystal Serenity
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for over 12 years, Morton Jablin, who lived
for 13 years on Regent Seven Seas and Mario
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Salcedo, known as “Super Mario”, who has
been living on Royal Caribbean for over 20
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years.
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So, I started by exploring what it cost these
well-known residents to live on their cruise
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ships of choice.
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The person who does it cheapest is Mario Salcedo,
“Super Mario”.
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He has revealed what it costs him, and the
5 steps required if you want to live cheaply
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on a cruise ship in various interviews, including
Washington Post and with the vlogger Alanna
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Zingano.
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First, if you want to live as inexpensively
as possible on a cruise ship, you need to
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decide which line you're going to live on.
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He chose Royal Caribbean because it’s a
mass line and offers lower fares than premium
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and luxury lines.
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Look at your chosen line’s loyalty progam,
he chose Royal Caribbean as their Crown & Anchor
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program offered a perk critical to him as
a solo passenger: a lower surcharge of 150%
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versus 200%, and then other perks like drinks
vouchers which saves him more money.
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Secondly, decide the cabin you can live in.
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He chose an inside cabin.
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Living in a small inside cabin is not appealing
to me but may work for you.
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Remember that on many lines you pay 100% surcharge
to travel solo.
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Thirdly, decide if you are going to stick
to one ship or use multiple ships within your
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chosen line.
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The way to keep living costs down is to constantly
jump ships within a line.
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Mario says, he keeps his costs down by chasing
the itineraries on various Royal Caribbean
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ships with the lowest price at any time.
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Fourthly, and linked to this, is stick to
the Caribbean for most of the year.
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Mario says 80% of all his cruises each year
are in the Caribbean, as it is the cheapest
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place to cruise.
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Around 15% of his cruises are repositioning
cruises, because again, these tend to be inexpensive
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cruises.
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For example, Transatlantic Crossings and East-West
Coast Repositioning.
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He hardly ever cruises in areas like Alaska
and Europe because they are much more expensive.
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The fifth decision is how low can you keep
your outgoings?
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There are no escaping taxes, port fees and
gratuities.
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However, Mario hardly ever leaves the ship
in ports and almost never pays for excursions.
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He doesn't do specially dining, go to the
casino, buy drinks packages, but he does have
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WIFI.
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How much will doing it this way cost you?
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Mario targets an average base daily fare for
his solo cabin of $150 a day before taxes.
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Once taxes and port fees are added (around
$20 a day), gratuities (around $15 a day)
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and Wi-Fi are added that comes to around $200
a day.
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So, it costs him around $72,000 a year before
things like drinks, shopping, laundry, tours
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and so.
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If Mario followed the same approach in a balcony
cabin, he calculates it would cost him least
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$100,000 dollars a year.
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What does it cost the other travellers I mentioned
earlier?
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“Mama Lee” (Lee Wachtstetter) who lived
on Crystal admitted to the Washington Post
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that it cost her $175,000 a year.
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That's about $480 a day.
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And, of course she had much more included
in that than Mario.
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Beatrice Muller who lived on Cunard’s QE2
back in 2008 said she was paying around $60,000
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a year, for her inside cabin on the QE2 even
before gratuities and onboard spending.
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That is $76,000 in today’s money considering
inflation.
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To see how the costs of using Mario’s system
that would keeps us in the Caribbean 80% of
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the time today compares to living on a ship
that would see more of the world would be,
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I looked at extended cruises including World
Cruises costs as a guide.
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One of the longest but best value world cruises
is Royal Caribbean’s 9-month, 274-day, 60-country
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World Cruise between December 2023 and September
2024 on Serenade of the Seas.
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If I pro-rata up these fares from 9 to 12
months, an inside cabin would cost per person
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based on double occupancy $87,000 and a balcony
cabin $112,000.
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The positive is this cost includes gratuities,
taxes, drinks package, Wi-Fi, laundry and
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even some excursions.
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So, many of the big add-on costs that Mario
did not include are included.
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The big catch is these are the costs per person
for double occupancy.
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So even with Mario’s 50% surcharge for an
inside cabin it would cost $131,000 a year
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to explore the world, over double his $72,000
if you decide to live in ships 80% of the
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time in the Caribbean.
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This shows Mario’s point to control costs
living on a ship you need to stick to the
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Caribbean rather than explore the world.
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So, one compromise would be cutting back on
seeing the world, which would remove one of
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the big attractions of living or retiring
on a ship for me anyway!
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Knowing the scale of cost is one thing, but
what do the cruise lines think and are there
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other hurdles stopping more people like us
doing this.
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I found both offer some fundamental challenges!
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I mentioned earlier I was on a cruise where
I came across someone living on the ship.
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One evening I had dinner with one of the officers,
and he told me that they were trying to tactfully
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encourage that person to leave and stop living
on the ship.
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As the guest aged, they were starting to expect,
demand and require more help and care and
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were placing demands on the crew beyond their
roles.
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The Officer said to me bluntly that cruise
ships are designed and run for short-term
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vacation travel and are not set up for people
to live on permanently.
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Certainly not people who are elderly and retired.
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They’re not designed to be residential or
retirement homes, and they don't have the
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medical, care facilities and support to cater
for residents.
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Not only are we not really welcome to live
on a ship, the more I explored I found several
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hurdles that I am sure are the reason few
people live or retire on ships.
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First, you need to be in good health and stay
that way.
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The medical care on a ship is not designed
to deal with ongoing health issues.
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It's designed for minor illnesses and injuries.
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They cannot provide on-going prescriptions
to cover what you need for the year.
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Second, you will have no dental care whatsoever
on the ship.
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Third, getting insurance will be difficult
and costly.
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It's hard enough to get insurance, even for
a 3 or so month long world cruise.
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We did a leg of world cruise and struggled
to find insurance and it was expensive.
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Fourth, we would still need a home country
permanent address, to do banking, qualify
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and receive any pensions or benefits paid,
to be registered with a doctor, where mail
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can be sent to and so on.
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Fifth, when I listen to interviews with people
like Super Mario and Mama Lee, I feel friendships
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and loneliness are an issue.
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We would meet lots of people; however, they're
churning every single week.
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We’d struggle to build friendships may end
up feeling, despite all these people around
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us, relatively lonely, because we won't have
on-going friends, relationships and of course
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won't be seeing family.
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Six, repetitiveness will be an issue.
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All those who live on ships, don't go off
in the ports anymore, because they've been
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to them many times and seen what they want
to see.
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It becomes very repetitive.
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Entertainment on board will also be very repetitive,
because the same shows are on board for years.
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The same guest entertainers come on.
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Next, there will be interruptions.
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The pandemic, for example, meant people living
on cruise ships for years had to leave.
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Ships go into dry docks; ships may be chartered,
and you will not be able to stay on the ship.
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I guess, if you're someone like Super Mario,
you'll just jump ships around those.
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And of course, logistically it is complex.
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You’d have to book every single cruise across
the year individually, meaning you could be
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booking up to 52 cruises and ensuring you
can stay in the same cabin.
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There could though be a solution to some of
these.
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There are a few permanent resident ships.
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The World Residences at Sea is the longest
established, permanently privately owned residential
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ship.
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It has 165 units from studios to three bedrooms,
but they cost millions to buy, and then the
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annual fees range from $113,000 a year if
you own a studio up to over $1 million if
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you own a three-bedroom suite.
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Storylines is a new residential line.
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Their first trip is MS Narrative.
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Their studios start at from $350,000 with
a $55,000 a year maintenance fee, and they
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offer penthouse costing many million dollars.
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I can see that living on a cruise ship is
possible, but the costs are big, there are
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a lot of barriers and it's not especially
welcomed by the cruise lines.
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It's a great fantasy.
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It's a great idea, and now you know what it
costs.
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Why not find out more about some things that
make no sense on a cruise ship in this video
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where I start by talking about something that
totally threw me.
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See you over there.
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