Asset Protection Trust - YouTube

Channel: LegaLees

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Hi this is Lee Phillips. I'm an attorney. I want to talk to you for a minute about
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what they call asset protection trusts. Really doesn't mean a lot to me.
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However it's becoming more and more used as a trust that is irrevocable.
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That means that you can't revoke it, obviously.
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It also means that when you put property into it, you can't get it back.
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You have given the property to the trust
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and that puts it outside of your creditors reach.
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It's an asset protection trust. And we have a number of these types of trusts
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The Children's Trust under 2503 is a type of asset protection trust.
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You give the property away to the trust.
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It's then used for the benefit of the children
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and technically we've given it away.
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The properties is now outside of your estate. So it's always been an estate planning tool as well
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because if we move an asset out and then that asset blossoms
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into something of great value
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it's already outside of your estate. We call that an estate tax freeze.
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People aren't as worried about estate taxes these days because the estate tax limit
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is a lot higher than it used to be.
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So the irrevocable trusts are less popular for estate tax planning
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however they are still very viable for asset protection.
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Now the trust that we call an asset protection trust generally is starting to be known
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as a trust that's created by a state that protects assets within the trust.
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The first one was created in 1997 up in Alaska
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and they created this Alaskan trust.
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People always talked about the Alaskan trust.
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You moved your property into the trust.
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After it had been there for I think for five years, three to five
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depending on which state you're in
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then it locked down and it became free from the claims of creditors.
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There's some problems with it. We'll talk about it in two seconds, but it was pretty good.
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And why would Alaska do this?
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Well, they wanted to bring money into their banking system.
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The trust departments of the banks.
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So you had to have a trustee of the trust which was a bank in Alaska
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Now some states have passed laws which say that any resident of the state can be the trustee.
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You can be a co-trustee. There are lots of variations on this
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the states are Alaska, Mississippi, Ohio, Tennessee, Colorado, Delaware, Missouri, Nevada,
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Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Hawaii, New Hampshire, South Dakota and Wyoming.
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Currently. And that, we may add states or they may drop off.
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The problem with it is
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you put the assets into the trust and then over a period of time after the period of time
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then it locks down and the creditors can't get to it.
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Utah actually has the best asset protection trust right now.
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if you publish in the newspaper
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then you can lock down the assets within 60 days
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that's pretty cool guys. But that 60 or 90, can't remember, but at any rate
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it locks down very quickly compared to the three to five years that many other states have.
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So you lock it down
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now you get a judgment against you. Well we've got a couple problems here.
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One, States will not recognize laws in other states that are against their public policies.
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It may be against the public policy to go hide assets in your state
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for my creditors in my state.
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The other thing is we have what's called Full Faith in Credit Act
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which means that if a judgment is given in one state, another state has to recognize the judgement.
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So if i get a judgment in this state and my creditors have access to my assets,
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Will Utah not recognize that judgment and not force those assets within the trust to be given over?
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There are lots of questions in this now is that
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if I put a piece of property in Nevada or in Ohio into a trust in Utah,
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isn't that property still going to be basically subject to the laws of the state of the state of Ohio?
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The site, the state where it is?
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These things we don't quite know yet on these asset protection trusts.
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Relatively expensive to set up,
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long period to lock down,
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and they have other things that are called legacy trusts because
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they will last for a thousand years
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yeah right. A thousand years ago we still got 400, 500 years before the United States or
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America is going to be discovered by Columbus
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and you're going to manage your property for that long? I don't think so.
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But at any rate, we've got all of these moving elements in these asset protection trusts
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that we don't know about.
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They are becoming more popular, I will give you that.
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More states continue to add on their version of the asset protection trust
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so it's something you need to look for, watch for, and pay attention to
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because it might save your skinny someday