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Okay, so, we just finished up like a day of testing a bunch of different stuff on this

with liquid metal and without liquid metal. And now we're going to

put that guy right there on.

This is the world's most unusual water block.

It looks normal on the surface

Copper on the bottom,

Plexi and metal on the top,

but the secret sauce,

is it actually replaces

the integrated heat spreader of your CPU.

making direct contact

with the die.

This is madness.

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You know what's funny, is we're kind of coming full circle here.

This actually reminds me of the Danger Den TDX

So that was a really old block designed for, back before,

AMD CPUs in particular, had integrated heat spreaders.

So the secret sauce here really, is just the way

that NudeCNC, has designed the base of their block,

in the shape of the underside of an integrated heat spreader, so you can see this lip right here is designed to be

sealed on to the substrate

These right here are designed to be held by the socket retention mechanism,

and then this flat surface right here

you can actually see an outline from testing they must have done at the factory

this is a prototype unit.

You can see the outline,

of where a die was making contact with it before.

So how's the mounting work?

First we got to delid it right?

Yeah. Well this one's already been delidded.

Not, not right now obviously

But, it should come off pretty easily.

So one, of the big ways that enthusiasts have been improving temperatures, in some cases

very dramatically over the last few generations,

is removing the integrated heat spreader from the CPU, like Alex is doing now,

and replacing the stock thermal compound that's in there

with something a little more potent either a high performance paste,

or, in extreme cases even liquid metal.

But, the theory here, is that

Nothing, I guess that's where the name NudeCNC comes from?

Yeah.

Nothing, is better than

anything,

so we're removing a full layer of thermal interface material, and additional metal

between the water,

and, the die, which is where the heat is actually generated.

This is freaking crazy.

Like you look at how thin everything we're dealing with this the tolerances for this

have to be so tight

which is why we're using a 7700K for our testing

rather than an 8700K because, as far as we know, that's what this particular prototype

is validated on.

It probably would work for an 8700K though.

Probably.

But, go back a couple of generations to when Intel was using a thicker package material,

and maybe not.

Maybe you'd over tighten it. Which, I mean look at this thing.

You don't want to do.

It so thin as a chip

Um, well let's get some liquid metal off of this first, just for the like, nice new application

We already put a whole bunch of conformal coating on this, for everyone that's wondering

I'm just gonna give it the old shirt treatment here. I'm sure that it's nice and clean. Kids don't try this at home

Certified ESD safe.

So we put this in the socket first. Here we go

Where's our dot

Think it's this way

'kay

So here you can see what I was talking about before

Where you do need some kind of IHS on it to even hold the CPU in place because that's how

These mounting mechanisms work. See, there's far too much play in there

You won't be making adequate contact between the pads on the bottom of the CPU and the pins in the socket.

There's something about German

That makes warnings so much more fun

(attempting german) "Warnung! Nig mead allumininium, cooler coper carbon. Vermandin!"

Whereas like the English one's like

Warning. Do not use aluminum heat sinks.

Alright, what's next

So we apply this right in the socket

That's lots, hey?

I can sort of get it in there, and then just pull out and it'll like, deflate. It's really weird

Mmm, you sure?

So this is the trickiest part

You can see this notch is smaller

and it's offset compared to the one that's built into the integrated heat spreader

That, is so that you can kind of start it over here

Move it where it will actually be held down,

and then

Tighten the whole thing down

This is crazy.

Like that is crazy

Guess now, I guess we need to, drain the sketchy loop

Why?

We need to put the fittings in there.

Naw, naw, you don't have to drain the loop to put in fittings

Have you been wasting time in between

Runs draining loops? What's wrong with you?

That, is how you break motherboards

He broke the dual socket C621 Sage.

A $700 board. There is a crater in the socket.

(Laughter)

Oh my god, there's so much water coming out

How are you, how are you going to flip those around?

Water evaporates.

Water everywhere.

Water evaporates.

Do you want to at least pour some out?

I don't think these are gonna fit

Yeah, these don't work.

Aw, damn. Okay. I'll get the zip ties.

No you know what we could do, is uh,

Yeah

So we're just gonna go, no collars on the compression fittings

We're just gonna use compressions as standard barbs.

Fortunately Alex is gone right now. Because I'm quite certain

He would not approve of what I'm about to do

I'm just gonna, go for like a speed mount here. Uh, no water.

Yeah

Mmm, yup. Okay

and....

if we go like th-

OH S*(bleep)*t

I lifted it too high

Maybe we can fix it before he gets back. Okay, hold on

You were saying about not draining the loop

Just gotta absorb the water

Where's the power supply on this thing?

It's right below that

Right below that? Naw, it should be fine.

Is that going to dissolve the tubing?

No

It's not gonna touch the tubing.

I just want it on the board

I need to, oh, I don't want it in the block though. Not really.

It's in the block now. Okay.

I just need it to carry away the water.

Let's uh...

That's an acrylic block, so that might uh...

Just hold on, hold on.

Ugh, I really hope that this,

all survives.

I'll be right back with an air compressor

I settled for this. It was a lot lighter to bring up the stairs

It's about to get really stinky in here.

No no, nothing got over that far

Oh, wait, maybe a little. Oh, oh yeah it's way over there. Okay, cool.

(echoey) Naw, naw, you don't have to drain the loop to put in fittings

Have you been wasting time in between

Runs draining loops? What's wrong with you?

(normal) I mean realistically after applying this kind of heat to it, it's probably drier than it was before.

- you doing?

Smelling it

I'm still picking up some alcohol smell here that means it's probably not all evaporated

Look, I wish I had all the time in the world to do things carefully and

Properly.

Would have been like, a minute

Here we go

Liquid metal

Ugh, dangit.

Hey, that really gets the liquid metal going though, hey?

Yeah, I guess it's way more liquidy now.

Yeah

So let's put that bad boy on there again

What could possibly go wrong?

Okay

Yeah, it's on there.

Okay

Having learned nothing

I'm just gonna quickly, woah, quickly quickly, see how we're quickly doing that?

And quickly

Ugh, ah

Yeah! See? I told you it would work.

Pro move is to tighten it clockwise so that that way you're tightening the barb as you tighten your zip tie

Plug in pump, plug in ????? I got this right way around right? Yeah, okay good.

I'm like legit excited right now.

I am a bit,

Concerned

Okay, let's do it.

Does it have a switch? That's a memo case switch, isn't it? Oh it's a power switch. Okay. It's just hiding.

That would be pretty funny, hey? Bricking the board in between all the testing

Yeah! There you go

That would be pretty funny, hey? Bricking the board in between all the testing

So we're looking for, uh,

Fifty three point four degrees is our average temperature with the, custom loop before

And that was with liquid metal

I feel like Windows search has gotten worse

But somehow they did it. I agree with you.

Oh damn

So we're looking for, uh,

50

Alright, well let's give it half an hour and make sure, but,

Okay, it's been 23 minutes. Just doing a quick check in here

That was with liquid metal.

Damn

Like,

this is it. This is all we get

So with an average of 51.5 degrees we are almost a full

Two degrees cooler on average

IHS

Two degrees we dropped

Oh damn

That's looking like it might be a little better

So far everything seems to be behaving, totally normally.

50

So what was the mark to beat?

Like 0s given

Five gigahertz at 55 to 60 degrees

Because remember this water is already pre-warmed. Like, there's no way this has had enough time to cool down fully

this is looking really promising

That's what's crazy to me. The consistency

Everything alright? Okay, it's still up

Not only are these temperatures outstanding, but look at that spread

Damn

I don't know. It seems like some people are getting like 5.5 with 1.5 volts so...

At 1.5 volts

We're in, we're into windows

We are most certainly running at 5-- I hate it when it does this

So with an average of 51.5 degrees we are almost a full

Two degrees cooler on average

than we were, with our, liquid metaled

IHS

So remember that. That's key

Two degrees we dropped

And,

We haven't even overclocked yet

You ready

So far everything seems to be behaving, totally normally.

Oh, we are at that clock speed. Oh, it's beautiful.

Let's hit it

Wow

That's like the same temperature

Like 0s given

About five gigahertz. Check this out

Five gigahertz at 55 to 60 degrees

Because remember this water is already pre-warmed. Like, there's no way this has had enough time to cool down fully

Wow

Like look at the spread though

That's what's crazy to me. The consistency

Come on. Just try going higher

Yeah, we've got nothing to lose

Okay, so how hard do we hit it?

I don't know. It seems like some people are getting like 5.5 with 1.5 volts so...

Okay, I'm trying 5.4

At 1.5 volts

We might be getting into windows at 5.4

No, no we're not.

I mean let's just see. Let's try 5.3

We're in, we're into windows

We are most certainly running at 5-- I hate it when it does this

5.29

Takes the satisfaction right out of it

Wow

So, if we had a chip and a board that could handle higher frequency with this kind of voltage

Our cooling

would still be well under control

Look at that

We have settled in at around

65 to 75 degrees on all four of our cores

So to put that in perspective,

That,

is about what we might expect on a CPU like this

at stock speeds.

With like an

Adequate, but unexceptional air cooler.

So the conclusion here is both complicated and simple

The simple part of it, is that,

the NudeCNC,

whatever this thing is called.

What's it called?

Ncore

Ncore

performs better than

Any water cooling solution,

that makes contact with the IHS

even if your IHS is liquid metaled

The part that's complicated, is that,

the Ncore

Requires voiding the warranty of your processor

in order to achieve these gains

so

We're not gonna recommend it

but

We're not gonna say,

that it's not super cool either

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