How To Make Money Off Movies That Cost Less Than $100,000 - J. Horton - YouTube

Channel: Film Courage

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I鈥檓 J. Horton. I make movies聽 that make money. This is how.
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Film Courage: J. why do you say you聽 are a filmmaker who makes money?
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J. Horton, Filmmaker/Youtuber/Podcaster: Well, I'm making a very specific style聽聽
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of movie. I'm making low budget features,聽 usually under a hundred thousand dollars and聽聽
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the vast majority of filmmakers that I talk聽 to that are making movies at this level,聽聽
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a lot of them aren't making money, they're losing聽 from the distributors or they're self-distributing聽聽
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and not doing anything. They don't know聽 how to make money. I myself I've directed聽聽
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25 feature films at this point and the first聽 probably 10 years of my career like I wasn't聽聽
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making a lot of money on these movies like I聽 didn't know how I didn't know how to navigate it聽聽
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I learned how later on and I like to make聽 it so that other filmmakers can maybe get to聽聽
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that point sooner than I did and so I like聽 to share some of that knowledge with them聽聽
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it took it took me a long time before my movies聽 were breaking even or making money and so聽聽
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and and on top of that as I was starting my聽 Youtube channel I was there's a couple of聽聽
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growth experts that I'm following and they have聽 their little catchphrases I was like I need some聽聽
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catchphrase and it just like that just came out I聽 was getting ready to do it and I was like I'm J.聽聽
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Horton I make movies that make money this is how聽 and it just it just felt like something that would聽聽
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interest other filmmakers which was the whole goal聽 of the channel in the first place right you do聽聽
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that in your intro to the videos yeah it does work聽 when did you become the filmmaker who makes money聽聽
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so I've made money with my films from the聽 beginning I did struggle at the beginning聽聽
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but pretty much my first movie was distributed聽 in 2003 by York entertainment now it didn't make聽聽
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anything but from that and it getting distributed聽 and out there I started landing other filmmaking聽聽
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jobs and that's where I first started to聽 make money but like when I say I'm J. Horton,聽聽
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I make movies that make money I produce movies I聽 direct movies and I make money off those movies聽聽
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like I'm not necessarily talking about hey I got聽 I get hired as a editor or a dp which I have done聽聽
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but I'm specifically talking about making money聽 off the ex exhibition of the movies and I would聽聽
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say that started probably like on a study about聽 five years ago about five years when like right聽聽
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around the time that Amazon started opening up for聽 streaming and that's where I first started getting聽聽
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the rights back from some of my older films and聽 finding that you actually could make a little bit聽聽
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of money on your own and over the years I've聽 just gotten better and better at marketing them聽聽
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at picking the movies and making more money with聽 them do you think that was a big contributor is聽聽
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going back and getting those rights back or new聽 movies going forward once Amazon Prime opened up聽聽
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yeah there's a little bit of both it was the the聽 old movies coming back up for license that made me聽聽
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realize that I could be a like an entrepreneurial聽 producer I had rise of the undead and edges of聽聽
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darkness they were released in 2003 and 2008.聽 around 2014 or 15 I got the rights back for聽聽
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both of those within like a year and I honestly聽 at the time I didn't know what to do with them聽聽
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and there was a a service called Createspace it's聽 owned by Amazon but it was basically created for聽聽
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self publishers like authors but they were doing聽 a thing where you could give them like your iso聽聽
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video file from your movie for dvd and they would聽 make videos on demand or dvds on demand and real聽聽
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soon after that they started giving you the option聽 to go on to Amazon Prime and so this was before聽聽
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Prime video direct but it's still basically a聽 similar process like you'd upload yourself and get聽聽
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it up so I put these two movies up on Amazon Prime聽 and they were making a few bucks a month like聽聽
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like nothing big and then out of nowhere one聽 of them popped up to like a thousand a month聽聽
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and then it hit me I was like oh my聽 gosh like what if this was a new movie聽聽
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because this is like a 10 year old title at this聽 point and it's it's doing all right so then I聽聽
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started seriously considering producing movies and聽 like hey here's somewhere where I could put them聽聽
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even if I didn't do traditional distribution and聽 so I it was always in the back of my mind and then聽聽
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after I had a little sidetrack with gas money聽 pictures where I was doing animation animation聽聽
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studio and that took me off movies for about two聽 years but then when I came back I was like hey I'm聽聽
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going to do this like self-produce self-distribute聽 thing and I started making documentaries and聽聽
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that's that's where I really got immersed in like聽 the streaming and Amazon and then later Filmhub聽聽
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and then back into traditional distribution was聽 that the point of no return when you saw that聽聽
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email or whatever with a thousand dollars yes yes聽 because like from from that point on I realized聽聽
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that hey I can self-generate material I can make聽 these movies on my own without answering to anyone聽聽
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and I can make a a reasonable amount of money聽 on it if I made a thousand on this older one聽聽
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could I make five thousand or ten thousand聽 with a newer one so I was like hey I didn't聽聽
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I don't I don't need anybody to do this there's聽 no gatekeeping it's like it's almost anyone could聽聽
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put a movie up there so yeah it really really聽 opened up the the doors to me being my own boss聽聽
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and with this thousand dollars in one month聽 were there rumblings online did you see more聽聽
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was this a complete surprise complete surprise so聽 I was doing absolutely no promotion for it like no聽聽
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no social media had no social media presence聽 the like I said the movie was 10 years old I聽聽
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had pretty much written them off at that point聽 it was totally just a fluke of the algorithm聽聽
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it was on Amazon and a certain group of people聽 started watching it and it just it just took off聽聽
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it got a bunch of reviews after that and still聽 not a ton like you'll hear people talking about聽聽
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how critical user reviews on Amazon are but I've聽 never really found that to be true I don't think聽聽
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it hurts but I have plenty of movies that have聽 made 5 000 a month 10 000 a month and they have聽聽
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less than 200 reviews so I never thought that was聽 a big thing but yeah it just it really opened up聽聽
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from that point on I was just like hey this is聽 what I want to do and I've always had a problem聽聽
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working for people I just I always wanted to聽 be my own boss so here here it was I can do it聽聽
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did you quit a job after that or you were聽 freelance so I was freelancing around this time聽聽
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I was freelancing a lot so I was primarily making聽 my living as an editor I worked for fox cutting聽聽
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promos for a while I would cut other people's聽 features I was hired to direct other people's聽聽
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features like I directed about 10 feature films聽 for a company called AMG film partners and they聽聽
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were all between 25 and 50 000 after I saw the聽 self distribution thing and it took a few years聽聽
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now because I started making the docs and I鈥檇聽 do one here one there took about a year before聽聽
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like my money was steady enough to where I聽 say hey I don't have to do freelance anymore聽聽
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and I did so I haven't done a freelance job聽 in probably three years now well I directed聽聽
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one documentary last year that was a for hire聽 but it was based off my the stuff I'm doing now.