How to Cut Your Property Tax In New York - YouTube

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Ok, good evening everybody.
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What I want to review tonight is my own direct experience with real estate taxes and making
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a change on my assessed valuation of my home.
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So I am fortunate enough to own a home it happens to be in Westchester County, which
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is in New York State, which is the highest real estate taxed county in the United States
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of America.
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Westchester County is #1 and Rockland County is #2 and I live in the Town of Pelham which
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has 2 separate taxing authorities, the Town of Pelham and the Village of Pelham as well
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as the school district, so I get big tax bills like everybody else and one day I received
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this letter from the Village of Pelham.
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I will read just the beginning of it.
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You are hereby notified in accordance with the requirements of Section 510 of the Real
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Property Tax Law, your tentative assessment.
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2015, $620,000 and 2016, $635,000, so translation, they are increasing my assessed valuation
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by $15,000 in one year, with no explanation of why.
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I don't believe the value of my home went up $15000 last year.
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So what do I do about it?
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There's one line, further down the letter that says, "Grievance Day is Tuesday, June
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21, 2016."
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I got this letter probably in May.
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So that begins my adventure.
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I'm going to skip forward to the very end of the process.
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As I record this it is September 16, 2016 and I received in the mail today a letter
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from the Board of Assessment Review for the Town of Pelham and they have made a determination
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that my assessed valuation of $635,000 has been reduced to $615,000.
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So I got a $20,000 reduction by asking for it and in the next couple of minutes I'm going
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to take you through how to do that, so that you can do it yourself, because you can do
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it yourself.
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I'm not a an attorney, I'm not an accountant, I'm a technology guy but I don't know much
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about real estate and taxes.
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So here is how you do it.
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You go down to the Town of Pelham, 34 Fifth Avenue.
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Every municipality has a Town Hall, and ask them for something called RP-524.
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So that is the form that you need.
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There are two pieces to it.
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Hang on.
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There is a 4 page instruction set.
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And there's a 4 page form, which you fill out, by hand.
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Straighforward.
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Name.
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Address.
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At the bottom of the first page you tell them what you think your actual market valuation
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should be.
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Now, in the Town of Pelham assessed valuation and market valuation are one and the same,
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so I don't believe that my home was worth the $635,000 so I said that I thought it was
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worth $563,000.
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They came back and said we don't agree but will lower it to $615,000.
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So, here's the rest of this process.
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What happened was that Tax Grievance Day, June 21 I made an appointment with the Board
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of Assessment and you go in and you meet with the Board of Assessment and the assessor is
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there as well.
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It's like a deposition, they're up there on their dais and you are down at your table.
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And you bring your application with you.
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But you have some other information.
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Which is, in advance of that meeting, I walked in to the assessors office and I asked for
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a copy of the property tax card for my home so that I could make sure that what they were
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assessing was accurate information.
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That the lot size was accurate, that the number of bedrooms they think I have is accurate,
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then number of bathrooms is accurate.
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It was mostly accurate, but I learned some stuff which I'm going to come back to a little
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bit later.
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But for now, it was reasonably accurate on the tax card.
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Step 1, get that tax card.
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Step 2, you need what are called comps or comparable properties.
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And the way you get comparable properties around here is, the Village of Pelham has
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a web site and there's a link on there where you can access a database of comparable properties.
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You type in your zip code, somehow I cant remember how, they identify you.
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But anybody that owns a house can access this database.
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Then you type in I have a 3 bedroom house and where it's located you the list of comparable
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properties.
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You dig around, you dig around you find properties that have very similar amount of land and
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similar number of bedrooms , floors and attached to the RP-524 you show them these comparable
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properties.
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And, in fact, the web site allows you to print out a little table.
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The web site lets you print out this table and that table really spells out the comparable
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properties.
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So for example my property had total assessment of $635,000 because they raised it and I had
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comparable properties with some of them had even more land than I do and they were paying
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less, or their assessed valuations were lower than mine.
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Doesn't seem fair, I had one here for $598,000, one for $562,000.
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So there are all kinds of reasons why properties are assessed at the levels that they are.
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I'll save that for a different video, but here's the deal.
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June 21 of every year or around that time there is a single day per year when you can
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bring this completed RP524 to the Board of Assessment and say, "I would like a reduction
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because..."
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You make your case based on the comparable properties, and if you are fortunate, a few
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weeks later you get a letter, or a few months later you get a letter and you get some kind
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of a reduction.
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If you don't like what they came back with there are still more things you can do.
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You can hire an attorney and you can get a new appraisal of the home.
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And that process I don't think is self-serve.
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I think that requires going to court and the attorney will present a case to the judge
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that your valuation is inappropriate not based only on comparables home sales, but also based
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on the appraisal and an appraisal can cost $400 to $500.
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So you have to be sure that you want to do that but the consequences can be very significant.
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Just for the asking for doing a couple of hours of work with RP524 my assessed valuation
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which is the basis on which real estate taxes are calculated was reduced by $20,000.
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I don't know that might save me a few hundred dollars a year buy hey if it's a week of groceries
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I'll take it.
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If you go the route of getting an appraisal and an attorney it could mean hundreds and
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hundreds of dollars or even thousands of dollars.
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So, go out an do it get RP-524 ask for the tax card, find the comps online, staple it
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all together sign it, bring it in and make your appointment next June.
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Put it on your calendar now and get your taxes reduced.
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Good luck.