Former AmEx CEO: Companies shouldn鈥檛 comment on Georgia voting law - YouTube

Channel: Fox Business

[2]
all right beware
[3]
corporate ceos who take matters into
[5]
their own hands and respond to uh
[8]
political developments within certain
[10]
states as did
[11]
uh major league baseball right now when
[13]
it moved the site of the
[16]
all-star game to colorado to protest
[19]
what was going on
[20]
with the georgia vote uh other ceos from
[24]
delta to coca-cola have weighed in
[26]
harvard olive is here the retired
[27]
american express ceo former aig chairman
[29]
he wrote a fascinating piece of today's
[31]
wall street journal
[32]
essentially saying be careful what you
[34]
wish for um
[35]
harvey you are you had great respect for
[37]
all of these men and women who run
[39]
these massive conglomerates but you said
[42]
that it can come back to boomerang
[44]
on them you you mention in the end
[47]
there's no limiting principle to this
[49]
problem if business heads can be
[50]
pressured to comment on issues unrelated
[53]
to their businesses
[54]
they will be compelled to weigh in on
[56]
more current events
[58]
and be in a position of having no
[61]
meaning to refuse in other words they'll
[64]
be tested on it
[65]
time and again so what do you recommend
[68]
they do
[70]
what i recommend is what i said in the
[72]
article and that is
[74]
not get involved in a public way
[77]
in issues that are political in nature
[81]
divisive and unrelated to their
[84]
businesses
[85]
if they stay if they stay out of it then
[87]
they can
[88]
stay out of the next one if they get
[91]
involved
[92]
in some fashion they inevitably will be
[95]
forced to comment on a whole range of
[97]
issues and refusal to do so
[100]
uh will engage the woke warriors
[105]
then what happens if you think about it
[107]
is that whatever their position we live
[109]
in a day and age
[111]
where uh individuals themselves whether
[114]
they're investors or in this case
[115]
residents of georgia
[117]
um very very woke in your face groups
[119]
who are saying
[120]
uh you have got to speak out against
[122]
this uh
[124]
and and it puts further pressure on them
[126]
doesn't it so how do they respond to
[127]
that
[129]
they have to say if it doesn't relate to
[131]
my business i'm not going to comment
[133]
publicly
[134]
this is a political matter and it's to
[136]
be decided in political means
[138]
if you don't like a particular action
[141]
then
[142]
take it to the voting booth but it's not
[144]
the role of my business
[146]
to comment on political issues neil if
[149]
if you start you can't stop you know do
[152]
do a
[153]
a sort of mental test suppose there was
[155]
a walk group from the right
[158]
that doesn't like abortion laws
[161]
that allow abortions in the third
[164]
trimester
[165]
and they started to to pressure ceos in
[169]
new york and illinois
[171]
to come out against it there's no doubt
[174]
in my mind that those ceos would say
[176]
this is not my business i'm not going to
[177]
say anything
[179]
but once you start there's no principle
[182]
that limits
[183]
where you stop and to believe that the
[186]
woke warriors
[187]
will impose a reasonable discipline and
[190]
exercise reasonable requests
[193]
is is the height of of
[196]
fantasy you know harvey shouldn't they
[200]
run this by their boards though before
[202]
they do so in a lot of cases
[204]
i saw in the case of major league
[206]
baseball that the baseball commissioner
[207]
acted unilaterally and the other owners
[209]
just simply
[210]
said wow i guess we're not playing the
[212]
all-star game
[213]
you know in atlanta and i could extend
[215]
it even to the ceos of delta and coke
[218]
who weighed in
[218]
before even bouncing it off their boards
[221]
aren't they obligated to do that
[224]
i i don't know whether they did or not
[226]
have no particular knowledge of that
[228]
neil
[229]
um i i would have uh consulted my board
[233]
on that
[234]
i think i think that that is a major
[236]
change in
[237]
how ceos operate and how they
[239]
communicate with the public
[241]
and the positions they take and and that
[244]
is something
[245]
that ought to have been discussed at the
[247]
board at least i would have done that
[249]
i don't know what factors they
[251]
considered and
[252]
and whether or not they they took that
[254]
step or not
[256]
you know i'm not here to debate the pros
[259]
and cons of the georgia law
[260]
i think it's a huge leap however to call
[263]
it jim crow
[264]
or overtly racist and i think what
[266]
happens is as long as people keep
[268]
repeating that
[270]
without looking into the details of the
[272]
law whether you like it or not whether
[273]
it's your cup of tea or not
[275]
but you keep saying this then people
[277]
believe this but when even the
[279]
washington post calls out the president
[281]
for some comments he made that it was
[282]
jim crow that it was
[284]
overtly racist and gives him four
[286]
pinocchios for saying that
[287]
um it doesn't seem to matter the facts
[290]
don't seem to matter
[291]
generates its own emotional wave uh
[294]
that there's no stopping it yeah it does
[298]
it really doesn't seem to matter
[300]
um i i read most of the of the georgia
[302]
law i think i understand it
[304]
and as i said in my op-ed piece i i have
[307]
the
[308]
i have a personal point of view that the
[310]
law
[311]
uh reaches a reasonable balance between
[314]
ease of voting and security of the vote
[318]
i think it's a reasonable balance others
[320]
may disagree with that but that's
[322]
that that was my point if you want to
[323]
put it in the article simply to indicate
[326]
that that is what i thought but was
[328]
unrelated to my comment about
[330]
ceo actions the accusations
[334]
of of racism and the war culture
[337]
um predominate and and
[340]
get all of the press and the ceos that
[343]
get caught up in it
[344]
i think will ultimately regret it uh it
[347]
is something they should stay away from
[349]
it is not germane to their business
[353]
you know mitch mcconnell famously said
[355]
you know republicans buy coca-cola
[356]
republican flight delta
[358]
um and that the ceos don't appreciate
[361]
the magnitude of the reverse
[363]
um effect it has to to the point that
[366]
you just made
[367]
but it also talks about a backlash for a
[371]
backlash you talk about um
[373]
baseball's relationships with the cuba
[375]
and china for example
[377]
uh you talk about how it generated calls
[379]
to boycott two major atlanta based
[381]
companies
[382]
this won't be the end of the backlash so
[384]
at face value from your column
[387]
this doesn't end here it's only going to
[389]
fester from here
[392]
sure because when when you take a
[394]
position like that
[396]
the the the most um negative charge that
[399]
can be made against you is that
[401]
you're being a hypocrite that you're
[403]
taking a position
[404]
for political reasons not for moral
[406]
reasons
[408]
and so um any examples that would
[411]
indicate
[411]
actions counter to your statements will
[415]
be
[415]
will be magnified and reverberate
[419]
and then you'll have to respond to those
[422]
so it it's a never
[423]
it's a never-ending process
[427]
thank you very much go ahead finish that
[431]
i was just saying i i think ceos ought
[434]
to ought to stay away from it
[435]
there are political matters in which
[437]
they should talk when they affect
[439]
their businesses but these are not those
[444]
got it got it harvey thank you very very
[446]
much
[447]
uh we should be thinking about all this
[449]
because their implications for every
[450]
decision
[451]
and an opposite reaction sometimes than
[453]
what the
[454]
the intentions were originally very good
[456]
seeing you again harvey
[457]
much appreciated