How to Pick BETTER Wheels & Tires for YOUR Car - YouTube

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it's probably the easiest way to change
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the way your car looks and the way it
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handles today I'm going to show you how
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to pick the right wheels for your car
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including size material offset
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calculation all that jazz and then I'll
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show you how to pick the right tire for
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whatever it is you're doing drifting or
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carving the canyons or whatever I'll
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show you how to understand tire then
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we'll cover how to install them and have
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you off tripping nasty turns and the
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canyons in no time
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I'm Zach and this is money pit let's do
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it let's talk tires this is the stock
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wheel tire from the Miata and first I
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want to go over all the different
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numbers that are stamped into the side
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of the tire so we can understand all the
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things that the tire is trying to tell
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us so we'll start with the size that big
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batch in numbers the 185 6014 what do
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these numbers mean the first number the
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185 that's the width in millimeters so
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that's 185 millimeters wide the second
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number the 60 that is the sidewall
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profile it's called an aspect ratio and
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it's completely dependent on the width
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of the tire 60 means that the sidewall
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is 60% of the width of the tire so a 60
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sidewall isn't the same on every tire
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it's always dependent on the width
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remember that then you've got the last
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number 14 that's the size of the hole
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and tire so you know what size wheel to
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put in it that's pretty simple sizing
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you get a nice combination of metric and
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imperial measuring systems which is
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always fun but then after that there is
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a couple numbers and a letter
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we've got 82 here what is that that is
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your load rating basically it's a system
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that operates on numbers the higher the
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number the higher the load rating you
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can look up the chart to see
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specifically what the load rating is but
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most tires say it somewhere 1040 seven
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pounds is the max load rating on this
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tires also most tires will say on the
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tire specifically what the load rating
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is in pounds so next to our load rating
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on the tire a thousand forty seven
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pounds we've also got our max inflation
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since fifty-one psi listen that is not
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what you're supposed to drive on that's
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just the max pressure that the tire can
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handle you need to check your driver's
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door jamb or the owners manual for the
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actual pressure that you're supposed to
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run in the tires
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while you're driving for cars it's
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usually somewhere in the ballpark of
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like 30 to 35 psi trucks large trucks
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often closer to 60 to 80 psi but if you
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drive on your tires max pressure you're
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gonna get very bad tire wear entire life
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so anyway back to where we were the
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letter on the end here what is that that
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is another rating it's your speed rating
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if you want to go fast you got to have
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tires that can handle it if you spend
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time at a speed above your tires rating
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the tire can start to delaminate and
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basically come apart it mostly goes from
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A to Z with Z being the fastest rating
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at 186 plus miles per but if the tire is
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rated to over 149 they'll add a Z into
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the size and instead of this just being
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an hour it'll say Zr but to get your
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specific speed rating you look just past
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the load rating this tire is an H which
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means this tire is good to 130 miles an
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hour all right so that's a big one down
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now we know how to read the size of a
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tire it's load rating and it's speed
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rating but we are not done yet we've got
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some more dot standardized specs the US
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Department of Transportation that is in
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there highway arm the NHTSA put forth a
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set of standards to measure critical
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functions of tires for consumers to make
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better more informed decisions when
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buying new tires
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those standards are called the uniform
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tire quality grade standards or you tqg
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they've standardized three measurements
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tread wear traction and temperature
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let's start with tread wear it's a bit
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of a convoluted one but let's talk it
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out the treadwear rating is intended to
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be a comparative rating of the wear rate
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of a tire or how fast and easily the
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rubber will wear down this means that
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the treadwear rating assigned to a tire
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means nothing in and of itself because
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it's comparative it means that in theory
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a 200 treadwear rating tire will last
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twice as long as a 100 tread wear tire
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so that's all pretty simple but it's
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important to note that the Department of
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Transportation is not the one conducting
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any of these tests they leave it up to
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each tire manufacturer to conduct
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testing on their own tires against a
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standardized course monitoring tire the
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treadwear rating is often honestly
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closer to a marketing tool than an
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actual consumer information tool you'll
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get a good idea of the longevity of
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tires relative to other tires made by
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the
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manufacture but don't expect 400
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treadwear Bridgestone Tire to
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necessarily last as long as a 400
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treadwear Goodyear or something else as
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a general rule though the the lower the
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number the grippier and stickier the
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tire will be and some high-performance
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tires will even rock like a zero
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treadwear rating because we don't care
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about tread wear anyway the next you tqg
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standard is traction and this test is a
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lot less legible and much more sciency
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the goal with this test is to measure
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tires straight line wet traction the way
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they perform this test is they stick
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some tires to be tested on an unpowered
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axle that has all sorts of sciency
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instruments on it and then they pull
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that test axle behind a truck at a
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constant 40 miles an hour on wet asphalt
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and wet concrete the brakes on the axle
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are then yanked and as the tire skids
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along the instruments on the axle
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measure the tires coefficient of
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friction or then braking g-forces baby
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so this test is mostly about how sticky
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a rubber compound to give and tire is
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made out of there are four traction
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grades C B a and double-a each grade
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correlates to a threshold g-force
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but I'm not going to sit here and tell
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you those numbers because anyway on to
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the last you tqg standard which is
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temperature and it's pretty simple
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although it would probably be more
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accurate to call it a temperature
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resistance rating as it measures the
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tires resistance to the buildup of heat
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or its ability to dissipate heat at
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speed we tires blow apart in chunks like
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in drifting for example it's usually
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because they got too op doing all them
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skids there are three grades of temp a B
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and C a means that the tire can maintain
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a speed of 115 plus miles per hour
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without generating too much heat B means
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100 to 115 miles per hour C means 85 to
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100 anything below that cannot be sold
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here in the USA but pretty much every
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real tire being sold these days has an a
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temp rating
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okay moving right along here is
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something that you won't see on every
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tire you can see here it says outside
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because this is the outside of the tire
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sometimes it'll say rotation with an
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arrow and that's because these tires are
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asymmetric which doesn't mean they're
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not round it just means that the tread
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is not symmetric side to side and that's
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done for a number of reasons sometimes
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water evacuation or handling
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characteristics and so these tires are
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just an inside-outside so it really only
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matters for the person installing the
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tires onto the wheels but then this can
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go on either side of the car can't
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really go wrong but for rotation
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specific tires you need to pay attention
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to which side of the car you put them on
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and how they're mounted on the wheel
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bonus points if both of those people are
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you the guy installing them and mounting
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them
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let's talk dot code what is that well
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kind of like your car has a VIN your
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tire kinda has a 10 tire identification
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number of sorts the beginning of the dot
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code has a bunch of seemingly random
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numbers and letters which denote where
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the tire was made its size and some
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other manufacturers specific info but
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what we really care about are the last
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four numbers attached to the dot code
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and they're only gonna be on one side of
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the tire so keep that in mind the last
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four digits are how we can determine
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when the tires were made 37 the first
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two digits are the week that the tire
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was made in a given year the the given
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year is the last two digits so here 37
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10 means that these tires were made the
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37th week of 2010 which also means that
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10 years old which means they're way too
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old general rule of thumb is that after
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six years tires should kind of be
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retired over time tires dry out and they
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lose their flexibility and they start to
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crack and they become dangerous so you
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can check your dot code whenever you're
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looking at a car it's an easy way to
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check how old your tires are okay now we
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understand all of the basics about tires
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and what they're trying to tell us but
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that's only half of the equation the
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other half is the wheels they're equally
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important in my opinion you got to get
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them right especially if you want good
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fitment so there's kind of a lot to talk
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about with wheels so let's
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okay so we'll start with the basics size
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because that matters this is a 14 by I
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think five and a half inch wheel which
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means that this is 14 inches in diameter
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by five and a half inches in width the
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wheel pretty simple right
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but there's another parameter that we
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give it about offset what is it I know
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it can be scary but let me break it down
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and a little bit later I'll show you how
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to calculate and measure your offset and
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what you can fit for a new wheel so you
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can get that fitment that you've all
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been lusting after so offset it's the
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measurement of the offset from Center
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remember that offset from center of the
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mounting face of the wheel the outside
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or the face of the wheel is the positive
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side and the empty barrel the negative
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space is the negative side so imagine an
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imaginary line through the center of the
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wheel that is zero
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now insert your offset these are a plus
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45 so from the center of the wheel plus
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45 millimeters which means towards the
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positive side or the face and that's
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where our wheels of mounting face will
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be the further you move this mounting
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face towards the face of the wheel and
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the more of the wheel gets tucked or
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sucked into the car and the more weak
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your fitment is obviously the more
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negative you go the more the wheel pokes
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out because you move that mounting face
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towards the inside of the wheel and so
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the more the wheel pokes out and the
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more gangster fitment you can get
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alright how about the bolt pattern that
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is the pattern of the bolts
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Amiata has a four by 100 bolt pattern
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that means that there are four lugs
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spread evenly across an imaginary 100
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millimeter diameter circle so this means
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if you have a set of wheels with an even
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lug pattern you can effectively measure
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from hole to hole to find out what size
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they are but if you have a five lug
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vehicle you have to do math because no
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two holes actually oppose each other so
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yeah I guess is my interesting thing
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about bolt patterns moving on the last
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thing that we care about sizing wise is
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the old hub bore here and it's important
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because your wheel should be the right
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size to just slip onto the hub that's
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what we in the industry call being hub
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centric it means your wheel is centered
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by your hub if you're real hole is too
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big the wheel will then only be centered
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by the lugs and that's what we call
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being
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c茅dric if you have too big of a hole you
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can get hub centering rings in like a
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million different sizes to perfectly
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take up that gap and center your slabs
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up which unfortunately I think we're
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gonna have to do I thought I had hub
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centric rings for our new wheels and I
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don't so we're gonna be love lug centric
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for the next week or so until I order
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some rings whatever all right now how
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about different types of wheels let's
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briefly touch on all the types of wheels
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in order from cheapest too expensive
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Asst starting with steelies you know
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they are they're made out of steel they
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go behind hubcaps and they can look cool
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next cast wheels it's just when you pour
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molten aluminum into a wheel mold and
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you get a wheel then we've got roll
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formed wheels which are basically a cast
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length and then they put a roller system
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onto that blank and they draw out the
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barrel which means that they can get it
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pretty light pretty strong a little bit
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more than just the cast wheel it's also
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a little more expensive now we've got
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forged wheels which is basically when
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you take a billet of aluminum put it
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into a forging die and squeeze the hell
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out of it to get a really strong really
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dense really light but expensive
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aluminum alright and then we've got the
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gangster class of wheels multi piece
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you've got two piece and three piece the
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face is separated from the barrel and
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sometimes the barrel is made out of two
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pieces and all those different pieces
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can be made using various forms of the
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stuff that we just talked about you can
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spend as much money as you want you can
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get whatever fitment you want and they
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look pretty sick but they're also very
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expensive alright now that you're up to
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speed on wheels and tires it's time to
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talk about what we bought for the Miata
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and why that's right folks we got our
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pf' ones can you believe it very unique
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I know instead of NK RPF ones but listen
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they're one piece
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they're light they're very strong
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they're made with that roll forming
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process that we talked about earlier and
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they're basically just a great
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crossroads of all the things that we
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care about in a wheel so these are a 15
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by 8 inch positive 28 millimeter offset
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so as I break down how I got to this
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wheel I'm gonna install them because the
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sun's going down Oh starting to get
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excited alright so first let's talk
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about diameter stock wheels are 14
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inches these are 15 did that for a few
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reasons one someday we're gonna put
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bigger
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on this car and bigger brakes need more
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room so we went with an inch larger in
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diameter
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beyond that tires you have a lot more
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options for 15-inch tires like these 14s
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you don't have nearly as many options
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another thing with the tires is that the
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larger the wheel the smaller your
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sidewall ends up being so you'll get a
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little bit less flex with a shorter
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sidewall so these will be a little bit
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more performance oriented and beyond
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that I guess really the most important
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thing of all is that they look better
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they look a little bit bigger look a
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little more sporty and that's kind of
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what we're going for right so these are
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eight inches wide and the stock ones
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were six inches wide and the reason for
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that the reason I wanted wider wheels is
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so I could have wider tires which means
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I can have a wider contact patch on the
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asphalt which means I'll have more grip
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but the question is how did I know that
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eight inches would fit and the answer
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here honestly is mostly from the forums
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I did a lot of research read what other
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people had done and I knew that these
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would fit but if you can't do that you
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can measure you can have your stock
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wheels on the car and measure inwards to
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the nearest thing that you would run
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into remembering that every inch you go
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wider will make it stick further in half
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an inch and further out half an inch as
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long as you're not changing offset so
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you can measure or you can do a bunch of
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research on the forums which is what I
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did and they fit so for tires we went
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with a Toyo our triple 8r which is going
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to be super sticky
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it's a 205 50 15 how did I decide that
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size well the wheels like we said are
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eight inches wide which translates to I
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think two hundred and three point two
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millimeters and because we know how to
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read a tire size now we know that two of
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five means that it's 205 millimeters
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wide so it's pretty much the perfect
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fitment for our wheels we could have
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gone with the 225 on this and it would
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look a little bulgy and that's kind of a
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cool look too but I went with this
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because I didn't want to have to modify
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the body yet as far as the sidewall goes
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the 50 series profile we did that
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because it leaves us with a very similar
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to stock rolling diameter the overall
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diameter of the tire and the reason that
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you pay attention to that is because if
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you change that very much then your
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speedometer won't read correctly because
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now the wheel being a different diameter
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will spin a different amount of times
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for a given distance okay and then the
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15
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part of the tire was pretty obvious
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because that's the size of our wheels
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and these tires are W speed rated which
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is good for 168 miles an hour so if we
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can make this thing do that speed will
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be prepared all right that is
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four-on-the-floor weather something we
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haven't talked about yet and that is our
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offset these are a plus 28 millimeter
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offset how do we get to that
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well again the forum's were super
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helpful because so many people have
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nyada's it's very easy to find fitments
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that other people have done so I knew
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this would work but if you don't you can
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measure and figure out how much offset
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you can handle all right so imagine use
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your imagination and imagine this is the
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stock wheel and imagine that we
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remembered to film this part two hours
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ago when we had the stock wheels on and
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basically what you'll want to do at ride
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height like this is get a straight edge
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and go from edge to edge through the
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center of your wheel and then you'll
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measure in millimeters how much gap you
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have from your wheel to the inside of
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your fender now obviously we're a little
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bit past flush because our straight edge
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goes out the outside of our fender but
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if this was a stock wheel we'd be far
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inside of the fender and we'd be able to
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measure from our straight edge to the
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inner lip of the fender and then you can
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see how many millimeters you can move
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outwards now that's only if you're not
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changing with at the same time if you
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are you have to take that into account
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as well but it's very simple
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straight edge measure and then you know
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okay so there's another thing that we
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haven't talked about which we have been
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using and you're gonna need and that's
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lug nuts so you could in some cases get
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away with reusing your stock lug nuts we
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could have done that here but it
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wouldn't look as cool and that's a
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problem for us but what do you need to
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know to choose some lug nuts not really
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that much you need to know the diameter
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and thread pitch of your lug nuts or
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your bolt holes these on the Miata are a
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12 which means 12 millimeter diameter
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and 1.5 millimeter thread pitch which
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means a millimeter and a half between
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each thread and then the other thing you
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need to know is your seat the seat of
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your lugs in this case it's a cone
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because the shape here which really is
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important about the wheel you need to
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match your lug nuts to your wheels most
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are gonna be cones but you need to make
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sure that you're getting the right stuff
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for your car then you put them on torque
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them down to whatever your torque spec
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is and that's it
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that's it that's our first official
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modification on the money pit Miata and
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I couldn't be more excited we got a nice
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set of wheels and some sticky tires this
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thing is gonna be so much better than it
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was already but if you look at the car
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you will notice that it's it's way too
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high so we have to address that next so
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that'll be next week we're gonna do some
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coil overs and get this thing sitting
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just right so I appreciate you guys
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watching I hope you're having fun I hope
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you learned a thing or two so we'll see
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you guys next week in the meantime
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follow me on instagram at zack job and
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follow my boys that helped me make this
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show at eddie Esparza and at tenderoni
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my guys love you guys see you next week