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Why I Would Never Choose Medicare Advantage - YouTube
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when you come into medicare your first decision is聽
which way you're going to go are you going to stay聽聽
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with original medicare are you going to choose a聽
medicare advantage plan and it's a huge decision聽聽
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one you absolutely need to understand i'm going聽
to tell you right now why i would never choose a聽聽
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medicare advantage plan i'll show you exactly why聽
and the difference between the two and i'm keith聽聽
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armbruck i'm founder of medicare on video and聽
i help people across the country make the right聽聽
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medicare choices i can absolutely help you as well聽
if you've watched any of my other videos you know聽聽
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i am not a fan of medicare advantage i'm going聽
to tell you exactly why i personally would never聽聽
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choose a medicare advantage plan so first we need聽
to understand what is a medicare advantage plan聽聽
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and it really should be called medicare managed聽
care because that's exactly what it is so if you聽聽
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choose a medicare advantage plan and these are聽
all the tv commercials that you see especially聽聽
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at the end of the year during medicare's open聽
enrollment plan primarily all medicare advantage聽聽
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plans so what a medicare advantage plan is is if聽
you choose to go on to a medicare advantage plan聽聽
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it takes you off of original medicare and put you聽
into a private insurance carrier's managed care聽聽
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plan now how does that work and why does the cost聽
not reflect that to you medicare actually pays a聽聽
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managed care plan to take responsibility聽
of all your medical claims so they pay聽聽
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it's generally upwards of about a thousand dollars聽
a month per member to the medicare advantage聽聽
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company to take your claim responsibility聽
away from medicare so good for medicare聽聽
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and good for the medicare advantage company聽
because they want as many as possible that's why聽聽
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you see so many commercials and why they sell聽
so hard because for each member that they get聽聽
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they get a significant monthly premium that goes聽
along with it so when you go into a medicare聽聽
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advantage plan again it ought to be called managed聽
care used to be called in the old days an hmo聽聽
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health maintenance organization which you聽
don't hear that term that much anymore聽聽
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but that is essentially what most of these聽
plans are and it takes the decision making away聽聽
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from medicare to the medicare advantage company聽
so my experience with managed care plans in my聽聽
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younger days i actually worked for four different聽
managed care companies i was an account executive聽聽
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and i did manage care sales primarily to large聽
employers so if you work for a large employer your聽聽
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group health plan was typically an hmo and you may聽
have had some other options but that was typically聽聽
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what your primary choice was at a large employer聽
and i was the one that would go in every year and聽聽
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explain the benefits and tell them how much their聽
costs have increased and their benefits decreased聽聽
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it really was a miserable job it was not enjoyable聽
i happen to be good at it which worked out okay聽聽
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but it just was not something that was in a聽
place of feel good so i have made the transition聽聽
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since then about 10 years ago into medicare聽
medicare is absolutely a feel-good position聽聽
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and it's very enjoyable when you do it correctly聽
because it does exactly what it's supposed to do聽聽
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medicare is probably possibly the only government聽
program that does exactly what it's supposed to聽聽
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do and does it very well and that's why it's聽
confusing to me why anyone would want to choose聽聽
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to leave medicare and go to a medicare advantage聽
plan unless it's kind of a sales situation where聽聽
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somebody's selling you into that scenario so i'm聽
going to tell you exactly why i would never choose聽聽
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that and there's a couple of main reasons let's聽
first talk about the cost differences between a聽聽
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medicare advantage plan and staying on original聽
medicare so if you stay on original medicare a聽聽
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and b you'd likely have a medicare supplement plan聽
that covers the pieces that a and b do not a has a聽聽
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deductible that's kind of big b has a deductible聽
that's pretty small and then there's some 20聽聽
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co-insurance also that you wouldn't want to be聽
responsible for so you get a medicare supplement聽聽
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plan that covers most of all of that and a聽
medicare supplement plan generally for the聽聽
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folks that we deal with runs pretty close to about聽
a hundred bucks a month so it's not by any means聽聽
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prohibitive in a cost standpoint now something to聽
understand whether you're on original medicare or聽聽
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on a medicare advantage plan you're always going聽
to have your medicare part b premium so your part聽聽
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b premium which is also a couple hundred bucks聽
a month is going to be paid regardless of which聽聽
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avenue you choose so that really negates the聽
difference between the choice because that's聽聽
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always there the difference after that is the聽
medicare supplement plan and then on original聽聽
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medicare you'd also probably get a medicare聽
drug plan so your medicare drug plan can run聽聽
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as low as 10 a month up to about 20 25 a month聽
depends on how complicated of prescription drug聽聽
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regimen that you have now a medicare advantage聽
plan can have zero additional premium or it can聽聽
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have 50 a month or it could be higher than that聽
it also generally will include medicare drug plan聽聽
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as part of the medicare advantage part of it聽
now something to understand if you are looking聽聽
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at medicare advantage plans the lower that cost聽
is generally the more restrictive it will be or聽聽
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the smaller network of doctors and hospitals so聽
kind of get what you pay for without a doubt so聽聽
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when you go to use either original medicare聽
with a supplement or medicare advantage plan聽聽
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significantly less expensive with original聽
medicare and a supplement when you have聽聽
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a supplement let's say you have plan g with聽
your a and b you're out of pocket for the year聽聽
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is a couple hundred bucks and that's it for the聽
entire year once you're out of pocket a couple聽聽
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hundred bucks which is generally just the medicare聽
part b deductible it pays a hundred percent the聽聽
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rest of the year without any out-of-pocket expense聽
on medicare advantage it's kind of a pay-as-you-go聽聽
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and your out-of-pocket maximum for the year if聽
you had a really significant year medically can聽聽
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be as high as 7 500 for the year so absolutely聽
something to keep in mind can be a little bit聽聽
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less expensive on the front medicare advantage聽
but can be significantly more expensive as you聽聽
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use it so if you never use it it's terrific and聽
that's generally where you hear the good things聽聽
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about medicare advantage is people that聽
haven't had a lot of experience using them聽聽
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if you go on to google and you pick a medicare聽
advantage company and you look for reviews聽聽
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on that company i mean you'll find books聽
and books of reviews on medicare advantage聽聽
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medicare supplement there's really no interaction聽
with an insurance company you go to the doctor聽聽
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you give them your medicare card you give them聽
your supplement card the doctor bills medicare聽聽
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medicare pays their part and sends it then to聽
the medicare supplement company the medicare聽聽
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supplement company has no decision to make聽
on whether they cover or whether they don't聽聽
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cover if medicare covers it they have to cover聽
it so there's literally no interaction between聽聽
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you and the insurance company or any聽
pre-authorizations or any referrals聽聽
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or anything of that nature with original聽
medicare that's the primary reason聽聽
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that i would absolutely choose original medicare聽
would never choose medicare advantage is because i聽聽
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want control over what i do and medicare original聽
gives you that control it's absolutely terrific聽聽
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it's basically autonomous if it's medically聽
necessary and your doctor says you need it聽聽
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medicare covers it and then your supplement has聽
to cover it because they have to cover whatever聽聽
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medicare covers so there's literally no decision聽
made on a medicare advantage plan different story聽聽
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there's pre-authorizations where if you're going聽
to have something significant generally they have聽聽
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to get it pre-approved before you can do it and聽
that can cause wait times of weeks even months聽聽
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to have whatever procedure you need to have done聽
done and especially in these days where things聽聽
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get a little more complicated with wait times also聽
authorizations and referrals so referrals from a聽聽
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primary to a specialist that's probably the number聽
one complaint with a medicare advantage company is聽聽
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if you need to go to a specialist first you have聽
to go to a primary care ask them if it's okay they聽聽
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give a referral then you make an appointment with聽
a specialist it can add weeks to the time that you聽聽
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get to actually see that specialist because you聽
had to make extra trips to a primary care first聽聽
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original medicare you don't need any of that now聽
sometimes a specialist may require that you see a聽聽
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family doctor before you come to see聽
them that's very possible if it's a聽聽
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neurologist or something like that they want聽
you to make sure you know why you're coming聽聽
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but you don't have to do it it's not a requirement聽
so it's much easier to get through things and to聽聽
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choose what you want to have done and leads me to聽
the next point of networks and networks probably聽聽
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the number two complaint on medicare advantage聽
when you join a medicare advantage plan you聽聽
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primarily have to use a network of doctors and a聽
network of hospitals that are based generally in聽聽
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your local area so and again can be cost related聽
so if it's a zero dollar plan that you're in you聽聽
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probably have a much smaller choice of doctors a聽
much smaller choice of hospitals if you're paying聽聽
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fifty dollars a month or eighty dollars a month in聽
premium you might have a bigger network of doctors聽聽
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and a bigger network of hospitals but聽
in your local area again it does not聽聽
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go outside of your area for the most part on聽
a medicare advantage plan if you are traveling聽聽
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and you run into a medicare or medical scenario聽
and it's an emergency it's going to be covered聽聽
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and then generally if it's going to require聽
continued care they're going to require you to聽聽
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come back within the service area another reason聽
that i would never join a medicare advantage聽聽
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plan with original medicare you can go to any聽
doctor any hospital anywhere in the country any聽聽
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50 states that accepts medicare without asking聽
if it's okay to go so if you want to choose to go聽聽
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to a specialist for your very unique situation聽
in new york or in california or in nevada聽聽
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you simply make the appointment and do it you聽
don't have to get authorization on a medicare聽聽
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advantage plan you cannot do that now there聽
are medicare advantage plans that will have聽聽
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out of network benefits we have out of聽
network benefits that allow you to go聽聽
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other places the issue with that is cost and聽
generally with any out of network benefit you聽聽
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will find that it is cost prohibitive meaning it's聽
super expensive to go out of network number one聽聽
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the out of network doctor can charge聽
whatever they want to charge they have no聽聽
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pre-negotiated rates with an insurance company聽
and then the medicare advantage plan would pay聽聽
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based on usual and customary which could be far聽
less than what that doctor actually is charging聽聽
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and therefore you will pay that balance bill聽
after the usual and customary part of it is taken聽聽
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care of and it can get super complicated with聽
medicare original none of that it's all already聽聽
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pre-negotiated doctors that accept medicare agree聽
they have to accept medicare approved charges聽聽
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and that's how they get paid and then again your聽
supplement again doesn't play any part in the聽聽
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decision factor you go to the doctor you give聽
them your medicare card they send the claims to聽聽
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medicare medicare then sends the balance to聽
the supplement that they're supposed to pay聽聽
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and that's it there's no questions asked i have聽
thousands of clients on medicare supplements聽聽
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i get zero customer service calls literally聽
zero if if i get a call it's about a lost聽聽
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card or something like that but never i mean i聽
can't recall last time that somebody said hey聽聽
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this didn't get paid and this is a problem it聽
just doesn't happen and to be perfectly clear聽聽
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and transparent i sell medicare supplements聽
i'm an insurance broker that's what i do聽聽
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i could absolutely easily sell medicare advantage聽
plans medicare advantage plans actually pay a much聽聽
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higher commission than medicare supplement plans聽
but i i completely uncomfortable with selling聽聽
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something to somebody that's super important聽
in something that i just don't believe in so聽聽
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that's generally why i focus solely on聽
medicare supplements because it's terrific聽聽
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it's easy it's great for me too because i don't聽
get a bunch of angry customers and it does exactly聽聽
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what it's supposed to do i get calls all the time聽
from friends that i know that my sister's on this聽聽
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medicare advantage plan and now there's an issue聽
and we need to get her off how do we get her off聽聽
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you can't get her off you once once you're in a聽
medical scenario and you're already in medicare聽聽
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in most states you'd have to go through medical聽
underwriting to get a medicare supplement plan so聽聽
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it's not the way it is now if you're on a medicare聽
supplement for some crazy reason you wanted to go聽聽
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to a medicare advantage plan you can do that聽
anytime at the end of the year during medicare聽聽
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open enrollment but you can't go from a medicare聽
advantage plan back to a medicare supplement聽聽
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in most states there are a handful of states that聽
allow you to do it but in most states you have to聽聽
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go through medical underwriting so you don't want聽
to wait until there is a medical scenario where聽聽
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you need to go to see a certain cancer doctor聽
in north carolina or a certain cardiologist in聽聽
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arizona you just don't want to be in that position聽
and then have your hands tied because you can't do聽聽
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it with original medicare you can do it you can聽
go anywhere you want you can do anything you want聽聽
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and there's no questions asked on why do you聽
want to go there and that again is a main reason聽聽
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that i would choose always original medicare聽
and i would never choose medicare advantage so聽聽
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i hope you found this helpful and by all means聽
leave comments i'm sure i'll get comments that聽聽
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people who love their medicare advantage plans聽
generally people that haven't used them a lot but聽聽
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if you have let me know uh it's rare but it does聽
happen that that people you know if you had one聽聽
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specific doctor and that's the one you were gonna聽
go to and they're in that medicare advantage plan聽聽
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you know that that might work out very well but聽
everything else cost access freedom flexibility聽聽
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all goes on the original medicare side without any聽
doubt whatsoever so hope you found this helpful聽聽
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i'm gonna show you right now how to download my聽
book for free medicare made clear i explain a聽聽
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whole bunch of everything in my medicare book i聽
hope you found it helpful have a fantastic day聽聽
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thank you for taking the time to watch my video i聽
hope you found it very helpful here are a couple聽聽
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other things that you'll also find helpful as聽
you go through medicare the first one is a copy聽聽
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of my book medicare made clear you can download聽
it right now for free i put a lot of time and聽聽
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effort into this book and you'll see i cover just聽
about every piece of medicare and i've written it聽聽
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in a way that makes it pretty easy to understand聽
now i also have videos throughout the book so if聽聽
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you don't want to read through all the information聽
click on the video and i'll explain it all to you聽聽
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right there you'll also find all the links that聽
you need to either sign up for medicare or things聽聽
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that you're going to need now or in the future聽
when things come up related to medicare so take聽聽
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just a minute go to medicareonvideo.com forward聽
slash free book and you can download it right now聽聽
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now also make sure once you're in medicare that聽
every year you come back and visit medicare聽聽
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price check this is my other website where聽
i make it super easy for us to compare聽聽
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our current coverage against new plans that may聽
be less expensive and remember that medicare聽聽
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supplements are standardized so it doesn't matter聽
which insurance company we use we'll still have聽聽
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the same plan g or the plan n that we have now聽
but hopefully we can get it at a lower price聽聽
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so visit medicarepricecheck.com real聽
easy we'll email you the quote if it聽聽
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makes sense then we'll do it from there so hope聽
you found all this helpful have a fantastic day
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