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Investment Strategies for Beginners and My Investing Experience - Ft @pranjal kamra - YouTube
Channel: Asset Yogi
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Next all shares that I bought one was Elder pharma
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and one-two more pharma companies, sunk
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When you have at least 1 lakh Rupee then come
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we don't open an account for 10-20 thousand Rupee here.
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If someone wants to start their stock trade journey in the early 20s
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what tips would you wanna give?
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How is your portfolio like, generally?
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Which stock earned you the most money?
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Namaskar friends, our new series that we started where
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we are bringing popular finance YouTubers,
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there today we are bringing a famous YouTuber for you to meet
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and will try to know about his journey today.
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You all might know him as well,
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Pranjal Kamara's name is well popular nowadays as well
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And we will learn about his journey that as an investor where he invests,
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and a lot of startup enthusiast wants to know that
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when someone starts a startup what struggles do they need to face?
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And what struggles specially Pranjal face? And what things gave him confidence.
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And along with that, we will also keep a segment at last where
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we will ask some light-hearted questions, which we will call the Halka-Fulka segment.
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So stay tuned in this video.
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So thankyou Pranjal for coming into asset yogi's channel and
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I would like to know how do you best describe yourself?
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because of what I saw in your channel and learned about you a bit
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I learned you wrote books, you also work at youtube, you are also running
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your startup too by the name of Phenology, so I would like to know
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what best describes you Pranjal.
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[Pranjal] First of all thank you soo much sir for inviting me.
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I am very nervous and excited that I got a chance to talk to you
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as I have told you in a lot of calls, that I admire you a lot
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and I always tried to learn from you.
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So thank you that I got the chance to talk to you, sir.
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And about your question that how do I perceive myself.
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So I will start with what I don't first so as an author
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I don't see myself at all as an author.
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Actually all day a lot though come and go in my mind,
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so I keep making notes
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So after a year as I look back, I find myself with a lot of notes
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so my aim is always to whatever I learned in a year to make into a book,
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So in a way it happens by itself, I am not a good author,
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that's gone. So second do I see myself as a YouTuber?
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No sir, honestly I don't see myself as a YouTuber there are two reasons for that
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That what I admire about you too is that sir,
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if I am not looking at myself as a YouTuber
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so I'm making videos only when in the morning I wake up and
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I feel like no I need to tell this to my audience
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so when I strongly feel something
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only then do I make videos.
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So do not see me as a YouTuber as well.
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The third sir, if I see myself as an investor or an entrepreneur?
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3 years ago from today, the definite answer to this was
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I see myself as an investor
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but sir what happened was that business began to keep growing
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in entrepreneurship, in phenology, we started making products,
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the team kept on expanding,
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and I started having more fun in that.
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So today honesty I see myself first as an entrepreneur.
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[Mukul] Okay so you see yourself as more of an entrepreneur compared to
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what I think you do other work as well and I think you do good other things as well
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but I think you relate more with entrepreneurship.
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[Pranjal] Yes sir definitely.
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[Mukul] But yes, your answers felt very honest and I too believe
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when there is something important only then do I come to youtube.
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And I think we are syncing up to that .
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So Pranjal I would also like to ask you one more thing
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a lot of people might also be interested to know about your background story.
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I checked your LinkedIn profile and I discovered you gave studied law
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you graduated as an LLB I guess.
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So suddenly after that without any formal training
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how do you think to step into finance, how was the transition?
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I am very curious to know what kind of initial struggle have you been through.
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[Pranjal] Sir actually I was never interested in law.
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Like in school to I was not that good but yeah I was a good orator.
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so my parents told you are good at speaking
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you become a lawyer.
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So sir I gave the competitive exam
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I got selected in NLU.
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I graduated from National Law University, Raipur. But sir
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in the initial days, I realized this is not for me so I couldn't focus on that
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In the 3rd year, I was watching a tv program with my dad
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usually, these channels CNBC, Zee business seem very boring to me,
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couldn't understand what they say all day, sitting in their suits.
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But in one tv show they dressed up as a Don, they used to
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break phones, punch the punching bags, giving answers to the shares.
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So as a 19 y/o 18 y/o, I liked it. And I said to my father that
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I want to do this, you give me some money.
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He said to take 20,000 Rupee if it flopped get back to law
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and if it grew you can do this.
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On the first day, I bought two-three of which the second share was TVS motors,
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And that grew 8-9 times in just 8-9 months.
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It grew from Rs 27 to Rs 260-270
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now the other stocks that i bought
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one was Elder pharma, and couple more pharma companies, they sunk.
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I used to buy and in 4-5 months they used to get delisted due to some fraud.
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So the money that I earned, sunk.
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Now I started feeling the guilt
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Now 1.5 years have passed investing in shares and felt a guilt
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that I'm losing my dad's money and I'm at 4th year now in law school
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what do I wanna do in the future?
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Two years 4th and 5th I just read books on investing did some fundamental analysis.
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And then I got to know there is an institute by the name of NISM
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that is a college of SEBI.
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And that offers full-time courses in Stock market and finance
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and I thought this is for me
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and one year I topped my batch, sir.
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So from there, I got confidence in finance.
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[Mukul] Oh alright okay, and when did you start youtube?
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[Pranjal] So this could end in April 2017
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and in June or July the same year I started doing youtube.
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[Mukul] Ohh alright I also started in August 2017 only 2-3 months difference maybe.
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We understood some of his entrepreneur as well as his youtube journey
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Now I would also like to touch upon the investor side of you a little more
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you told me that you bought shares of TVS earlier so,
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was TVS your first investment? or something else was
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and if you want to tell something about that.
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And something else that you haven't talked about yet anywhere
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some interesting topics as an investor.
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[Pranjal] So sir one thing that is coming to my mind which I don't know
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how I never talked about it anywhere is that
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I was gonna get 20,000 Rupee from my dad and I didn't have any bank account
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and I was 19-20 y/o and I didn't have any bank account and I wanted
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to get a 3 in 1 Demat trading and saving account so eagerly.
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So the first bank where I went was an ICICI bank
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and by mistake, I didn't have any knowledge
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so I went to a VIP or wealth branch something it was.
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So as I began to climb up the stair they didn't even ask me in
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from the outside, they asked me what happened?
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So I said I want to open a 3 in 1 account I want to start investing in shares.
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So they asked how much will you invest?
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So I said I have 20,000 Rupee and I would like to invest all of it
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I want a zero-balance account.
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So I don't know if that was the manager or what. He very rudely told me
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that no-no this is a wealth branch, when you get at least Rs 1 lakh then come
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we don't open account for 10- 20,000 Rupee here.
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So I called my friend, he suggested opening an account in Axis bank
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they have a youth account that could be open for zero balance.
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So they took a lot of time to open that and I was tracking shares everyday
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and I was getting very restless.
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So as my account opened, I believe it took like a week to open.
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So as soon as I got Rs 20,000 I sat in front of the PC and started
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punching orders for those 4-5 shares that I wanted to buy.
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So as I remembered, I took TVS and many others that day but
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the first I bought was shares of Crompton greaves
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but that was still better, other 2- 3 company shares I bought that just sunk.
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[Mukul] So as I learned that you started your investing journey at the age of 19-20
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as a student, you started I believe.
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So if in today's date if someone wants to start their journey
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in the early 20s, so what tips would you like to give to them and
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how should they build up their portfolio?
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[Pranjal] Sir there is a very basic tip, the most basic mistake that happens
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is that as a youngster the companies we know and use don't attracting to us?
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What attracts us? The ones which are praised by some expert
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or which is being advertised that it will go to Mars, Jupiter
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or this will bring the cure for cancer.
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These types of complicated companies about which we can not verify facts.
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As a beginner, you have to just do a very simple step
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if you are interested in biking then see Bajaj, Hero and TVS.
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If you are interested in clothing then see Aditya Birla, page industries
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TCNS clothing or watch Arvind.
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Those products that you are a customer of just buy only those companies.
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And one thing is this that however, it attracts you,
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your 50,000, 10,000 you invested in just that thinking that
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this 50,000 will be 5 lakh and I'll be in the limelight.
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So this never happens!
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At least take 7-8 companies and do not invest everything in just 1-2 companies.
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So these two simple things are there sir.
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[Mukul] Oh yes this is very basic but very important I also believe that.
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Okay so this mainly you talked about stocks, I would also like to ask a
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followup question that how is your portfolio generally?
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Have you made a formula to allocate some percentage somewhere?
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That this much percentage should go to equity, this much to real estate
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this much to debt and this much towards fixed income.
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[Pranjal] No sir I have not differentiated like this in financial planning
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It has some reasons too sir,
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that if I say now that 80% of my total worth is in real estate
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because we needed a big space for the company and we needed a new house.
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So whatever I have earned in these 3-4 years is going towards
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fulfilling these one time needs but over the years definitely, as much as I like
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equity and as much as passionate I am about that
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my allocation towards equity will keep on increasing, in mutual funds
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I don't like investing a lot because if I see the alternate use
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of capital, if I direct invest in shares then my knowledge will also increase
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and even if return match or don't it don't matter a lot.
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As a person, I will become more intelligent if I analyze stocks directly.
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So in mutual funds, most of it is ELSS sir, which is important for tax saving.
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And I don't have anything in bonds,
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I just have a substantial quantity of sovereign gold bonds.
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But in fixed income instruments, I have hardly anything sir.
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[Mukul] Okay no, anyway I think that is an honest answer, I believe
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one should see in today's days what is the best use of my capital.
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So I think there is no harm in saying that
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in today's date, this looks the most important to me
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although you are doing it for your business I think it is justifiable.
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So Pranjal I would like to ask you a question related to this,
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so you say you invest in business along with that you are also investing in stocks
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So have you made any percentage breakup that both are equity,
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that if you invest in a business that is a kind of active equity investment
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And second is a passive equity investment
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when you invest in someone else's business.
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So is there any formula or do you invest on an ad hoc basis?
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I don't have such a formula, sir, in this I think that
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whenever we talk about the investment we just see two things.
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First where I am investing how much is that under my circle of competence.
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And second how much less is the information asymmetry.
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Do I know more about this company than the general public or the general market?
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So I think is phenology in my circle of competence? I would like to believe so.
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Is there any information asymmetry?
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I know more about phenology than the market
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about phenology, I know the most.
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So because of these two use cases, and reasons, investing wisely also
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this rationally feels right to me that I invest the most money in phenology
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because here I have a unique advantage, an information advantage.
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Here that I say the rule that not more than 10% in any stock
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I am breaking this because this is my company,
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you cannot do this in the stock market.
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That you put 80% or 60% in a single company
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there because you don't have the controlling stake
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and there is also a lot of information asymmetry
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so there do not break this rule, do not put more than 8-10% in a single company.
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[Mukul] So we learned about Pranjal as an investor as an entrepreneur
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we leaner the whole journey, we also asked some serious questions.
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Now let's ask some halke Fulke (light) questions, keep this a light-hearted round
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generally, people name this segment rapid fire
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but we won't call it rapid fire you can take as much as time you need
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but because questions are very light we are naming this segment 'Halke fluke.
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So first question, Pranjal who is your favorite YouTuber if you want to tell?
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One YouTuber I felt like I want to be like her after watching them
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That is Urban Fight, Taskeen ma'am, and the way she speaks and connects
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with people, right pronunciation of every word with correct emotions.
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I get envious of her about this, I have also asked her to please make me like you.
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[Mukul] Okay, and favorite finance youtuber?
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[Pranjal] Sir not because I came to your channel so I'm saying this but
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I came to this channel because you are my favorite.
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[Mukul] How should I say in my video that this is sponsored (laughs)
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that I paid you to say this.
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Okay so Pranjal your first book on finance that people should read?
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[Pranjal] Definitely Rich Dad Poor Dad sir, that is a very light book and
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every time when I used to read it I felt like this is soo simple
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why didn't I think about that, so definitely that is the first book.
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[Mukul] Yes, yes in fact that was my first book too, it is very basic
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and you think after reading this that people don't do such simple things.
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And which one is your favorite book in stock investing, Pranjal?
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[Pranjal] Sir I am tired of doing publicity of this book
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I want this book to be on the best seller's list.
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The Education of a Value Investor by Guy Spier.
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That book teaches that sir investment is a life skill.
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And you could be anyone and even if you have nothing to do with finance
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you can still be a good investor.
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Just need to change your mindset a little and just need to open your eyes.
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So it is a life-changing book, sir.
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[Mukul] And in a startup, the first book that people should read?
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[Pranjal] Sir I have read a lot of books on startups but the one who
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clicked me the most is Delivering happiness, sir.
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It is about a company named Zappos which later got acquired by Amazon.
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[Mukul] Tony Shay is the founder I think.
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[Pranjal] Right, right sir. So I won't say its very much revolutionary but
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it has so many small pointers that we learn that
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things that look so simple, it can cause a lot of difference in a company, so
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focusing on small little things is very important so I connected a lot to that.
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[Mukul] If we talk about stocks which stock made you the most money?
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[Pranjal] Definitely TVS, the way it multiplied 10 folds by beginner's luck
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it never happened by doing research.
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After that who made a lot of money is CDSL sir.
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[Mukul] And any stock that has lost you the most money?
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[Pranjal] Ah sir I also confessed about this last year in my video
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got cursed about it a lot, it was a very big mistake.
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Yes bank sir, Yes bank.
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[Mukul] Anyway I liked this interview a lot Pranjal.
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I think the audience would also have enjoyed it.
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It was more of a heart-to-heart discussion, and the answers were honest.
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I like this honesty, Pranjal.
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So thank you for coming here and sharing your experience, learnt a lot.
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[Pranjal] Thank you so much for inviting me. When we had this discussion,
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so a lot of times I indirectly used to fumble your brain that
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will you do it with me?
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So this time when I saw that you are more than willing and you are asking
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so I was dancing in my brain that oh wow.
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Thank you so much, sir, thank you for having me, I had a great time sir.
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[Mukul] Yes in fact i also had a great time, and I think audience
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would also have loved this video, thank you.
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