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13 April 2022 Chairman Pakistan Peoples Party Bilawal Bhutto Zardari exclusive interview with CNN - YouTube
Channel: PMO ISB OFFICIAL
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chairman of pakistan people's party
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joins me now live from islamabad it's
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good to have you i know you've endorsed
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sharif's appointment there are reports
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that you're being eyed as pakistan's new
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foreign minister can you confirm that
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no i i can't confirm that but absolutely
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we worked with a a coalition government
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uh to oust mr khan through no confidence
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motion uh he tried to thwart our moves
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uh through what amounts to a
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constitutional coup but the supreme
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court of pakistan decided against him
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and ultimately parliament managed to
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finish the democratic
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process and vote him out of office out
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of interest would your party be happy
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with you becoming foreign minister under
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prime minister not from your own party
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i'm sure that would be something
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difficult for my
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uh party to uh
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to to to stomach uh being the second
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largest
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member of the coalition uh but obviously
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we do have to work together to address
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pakistan's problems and whatever my
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party decides in the better interest of
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the country of course i would follow
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at this point you don't see a future for
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you in this administration but you're
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saying it would be up to the party
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at this point all political parties that
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are in the in in our alliance that
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defeated imran khan must work together
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for the restoration of democracy work
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towards electoral reforms and uh try to
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address the economic issues that you
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mentioned uh in your introduction
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which i do want to address because uh
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the
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the country is a mess before i do that
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imran khan is demanding immediate
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elections he says to let the people
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decide whom they want as their
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prime minister um you have said
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democracy has won and you have appealed
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to the youth that democracy is the best
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revenge so do you support khan's call
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for
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free and fair elections early elections
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if needs be
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we absolutely want free and fair
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elections uh but in order to have free
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and fair elections we must legislate on
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electoral reforms because as everybody
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knows the 2018 elections this is what
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that khan used to come to power have
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been widely seen and condemned not only
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nationally but internationally
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as rigged in compromised elections that
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resulted in uh within three years of
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auto tax autocratic dictatorial rules
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through the office of mr imran khan who
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not only robbed our media of media
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freedoms but rob average pakistanis
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democratic rights uh that we just
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recently started uh to enjoy in the 10
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years
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before mr khan came to power so indeed
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it is a big victory uh
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for democracy uh that we are moving
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towards electoral reforms and free and
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fair elections we're not a selected
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government like mr khan's but a
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government that is truly elect
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representative of the people of pakistan
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who can decide their fate imran khan
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does still enjoy huge popular support he
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tweeted a day ago the following starting
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with never have such crowds
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been come out so spontaneously and in
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such numbers in our history rejecting
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the imported government
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led by crooks those protests he claims
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are against
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a u.s backed regime change he is right
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to point out there were massive massive
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protests demonstrations of support that
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tweet alone garnered 7.2 million views
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what are your thoughts on his belief
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that his ouster is all part of a u.s
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orchestrated conspiracy
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i think that the american people will be
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able to relate to what pakistan is going
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through right now pakistan just recently
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experienced our equivalent to your
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january sixth moment where mr khan
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despite knowing that he had lost his
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majority in parliament tried acting
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through his speaker to conduct a
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constitutional coup and and thought that
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process and he's come up with this big
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lie of an international conspiracy led
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by the united states to oust him when
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the fact is he's the first prime
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minister in the history of pakistan to
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be ousted through democratic
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constitutional means and this is a
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massive victory for pakistan's democracy
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as far as his support is concerned of
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course little fascists all over the
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world enjoy their cult following but
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that does not mean that the majority of
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pakistan should be dictated to by this
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uh by these fascists and genes
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okay but let's be quite clear though he
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does retain enormous popular support his
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tenure as prime minister was
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characterized by the shift
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away from the west and moved closer to
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china and indeed to russia
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president biden didn't call him during
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his three and a half year tenure khan's
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criticism of washington and the west
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frankly bought him a lot of popular
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support inside the country do you see
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pakistan's relationship with washington
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now changing
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under shebas
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sharif and if so how
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i'll answer all three parts of your
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question as far as mr khan's support and
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the public is concerned
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even though we criticized the last
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elections uh as heavily rigged according
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to those rigged election results which
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mr khan calls the most free and fair
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elections in pakistan's history mr khan
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represents mr khan's position in
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parliament represents thirty percent of
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the people of pakistan's votes whereas
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our coalition represents seventy percent
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of the people of pakistan's uh votes so
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that's as far as man's popularity is
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concerned as far as mr khan pakistan's
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relationship with with the west or any
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other country mr
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imran khan despite being extremely
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anti-american
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in his rhetoric when he's out of
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government when he was in government and
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mr trump
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was the president of the united states
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he enjoyed very cordial relations with
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mr trump it is true that since uh
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president biden has taken uh has taken
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over and following the complexities in
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afghanistan there has been difficulties
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between us and pakistan relations but mr
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khan is manipulating uh this series of
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events to try and create this perception
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that there is some grand conspiracy when
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the fact of the matter there is none our
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decision to bring a vote of no
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confidence was taken much before mr
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khan's visit to russia on the eve of the
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ukrainian crisis
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and we had no way of knowing that mr
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khan would go and st and shake president
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putin's hand as he was invading uh
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ukraine and as a result there would be
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some sort of friction in in foreign
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policy but because mr khan was removed
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through a democratic process because he
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doesn't have any any narrative that
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allows him to be presented as a victim
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he is relying on pakistanis general
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anti-american
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sentiment and trying to provoke a very
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dangerous situation where he's declared
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70 percent of uh the people's the
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parliamentarians that represent 70 of
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the people's mandate has traitors
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unilaterally and is going down a very
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dangerous path america has had 200 years
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of democracy to sustain um
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the pressures of this sort of attack
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pakistan's democracy is very young it's
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very new and mr khan's assault
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um
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his his big
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fascist tendencies is indeed a threat to
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our society let me put this to you it is
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it is a young uh it is a young country
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it's a young democracy
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sharif is the brother of former deposed
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prime minister now a sharif you yourself
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are part of one of pakistan's leading
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political families and the son of two
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former uh a prime minister and a
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president
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some would say that is what is wrong
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with pakistani politics this sort of
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dynasty family politics right or wrong
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absolutely dynasties exist i mean
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i would think it's unfair to criticize
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former secretary of state and
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presidential candidate hillary clinton
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for being involved in politics because
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her husband involved in politics et
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cetera no that's not a good answer
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it was a really important question it's
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a really important question
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criticized nepotism and dynastic
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politics as as all as much as you want
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but whoever the people of pakistan
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decide uh that is what at the end of the
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day should matter as far as mr khan is
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concerned his entire body is full of dis
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dynasty him himself his children may be
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underage and not involved in politics at
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the moment but um in in his provincial
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governments in his uh federal
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representations and his party
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representations he relies heavily on
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pakistanis as far as myself is concerned
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my grandfather was was hanged by a
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military dictator my mother was uh
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assassinated by a
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terrorists and a and a dictators uh
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canadians and i was forced
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into pakistani politics as a young young
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age i didn't uh choose this life it
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chose me okay for whatever reason one is
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doing politics we believe in democracy
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and that the people should decide mr
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khan likes to talk about democracy when
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in fact he believes in rigging elections
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