How to Invest When the Market is Overvalued - Peter Lynch Interview | Stock Market | Viral Reacts - YouTube

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Friends if we speak about nifty, it is at its lifetime high, a question pops up that when the market is soo high what to do.
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and another statement you might have heard about me talking about stocks touching their 52-week high
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to remove this confusion I saw a video of Peter Lynch in which he was asked the same question that how should an investor react when markets go at an all-time high
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For which we thought of introducing a new format in which we will bring world-famous investors to put forward their perspective
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and how does it impact you and from which you can learn a lot as an investor.
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Friends the title of these videos will be Viral reacts because we will bring the viral videos of famous fund managers and investors
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and in today's viral react we bring you clippings of Peter Lynch which I will be explaining
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that how is it important for you and how does it work for you as an investor.
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I, Jagdeep Singh welcome you to the Groww youtube channel, if you haven't subscribed please do so that you don't miss out on important videos
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Peter Lynch has been considered one of the best fund managers of his time. Times magazine recognized him as the best money manager in 1980
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Peter Lynch used to run a fun by Fidelity and from 1977 to 1990 the fund gave a return of 2700% to its investors
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which shows us that such a marvelous fund manager he was who gave such good returns to its investors.
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Around that time only he gave an interview in which he was asked the same question that what should one do when markets go high
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So let's quickly see the first part of the interview.
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I am pleased to have Peter Lynch talk about a remarkable record volume on wall street and other things
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smart of me to schedule it on a day like this, 3 months ago I was asked when to Peter Lynch on and I said let's bring him this Tuesday
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Well we had a huge run in the market it was just 4000 two and a half years ago and it touched 8300 in August
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and like any other rally, it backs off, and it's healthy It rather goes down by 1000 points than to go to 12000, I mean look at Japan
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It went from 5000 to 15000 on their DOW and it was fairly priced with earnings and everything else and then it went to 40000
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and that caused 7 years of inflated real estate, people were overspending basically they were in a recession for 5 to 6 years because the markets went too high
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If the markets go too high that is discounted earnings of 7 to 8 years
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The market since we were 2 has sold 10 times earnings and 20 times earnings, if you see dow jones, S&P
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out of all companies you take the earnings and there is a relationship that follows, Mcdonalds has been doing great for the past 30 years and its stock too
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so the earnings of S&P500 has always been between 10 and 20, we were just about to go above 20 which is the high end of PE
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We have only been a few times over 20 and usually, inflation has been 0, and in early 60's the inflation was about 0
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we were a little above 20, if you subtract inflation from 20 you get PE of the market
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that is a pretty good ratio, when the inflation was 12% the PE was around 8 or 9 in the early '80s
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I had never thought that I would have ever wished for the market to go up dramatically, let's say it goes to 16000 tomorrow
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basically, there are earnings behind companies
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Stock market prices are ought to be dictated by earnings and future potential earnings
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So in this part, Peter Lynch explains that whenever there is a bull run in the market it should be backed by corporate earnings
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Assume that a company has announced a good quarterly result and they have raised their profits and revenue
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meaning the company has performed well fundamentally due to which the share price of the company is going up
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So here Peter Lynch is emphasizing that the bull run is backed by corporate earnings and if that doesn't happen
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meaning the company didn't do well fundamentally or if we look at the broader indices and most company's didn't perform well
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and still, the company's shares are going up, it is not a good signal
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Peter Lynch here takes the example of Japan's Nikkei and says when it went from 5 to 15000 point it was purely backed by fundamentals
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meaning the companies were performing well, their results were good, their price to earning was good due to which the index went up
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but when the index went from 15000 to 40000 points, he says that it wasn't backed by corporate earnings
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meaning that the business didn't grow much till the level the index went whose aftermath was a huge crash in the index
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due to which their economy also stagnated.
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Here Peter Lynch clearly states the index's PE. When the PE of the index is between 10 and 20 means that the index is not overvalued
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meaning that there is no bubble but he also emphasized that you have to adjust the PE ratio with inflation
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Now assume that a country's inflation is very high due to which their PE would also be high, here you should specifically see that is the inflation adjusted or not
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and PE being between 10 and 20 is not being in a bubble
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Let's now understand India's scenario, if we speak about the past 20 year PE ratio of nifty after adjusting for inflation has been between 10 and 25
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but if I talk about it now, nifty is trading above 14000 and currently, its PE ratio is 35 above after adjusting inflation
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So if we compare this number to the number stated by Peter Lynch, we can say that this rally is not backed by corporate earnings
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because compared to that number this number is very high
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Now let's go to the second part and try understanding that between so many companies how to choose a good company
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I would say fairly priced, larger companies are okay, we have had 3000 companies go public in the last 4 years that's 2 companies a business day
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some of the companies have gone down dramatically and that's a lot of research that goes down
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Some people know a lot about it, there are 10000 public companies and a lot of them are very attractive and no one has followed
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I like to see companies who come into unions or go into trouble
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But you have to look it how you want it, you cant go to the mall and find a stock say that it sounds good but then you have to do some steps
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you have to do an organized method, people are careful when they buy a toaster
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they do research but they don't do it for stocks, they discuss it as man I have a hot stock and invest 5000$, small investors
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It's like a casino, you get the same result but with more paperwork
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that you know something about, you have to have an edge, let's say the industry goes from crummy to semi-crummy to fairly good, the stocks are going north
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you gotta make money and you know the published industry, you gotta have an edge, the last 30 years you worked as a restauranter
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you have seen taco bell, you have seen pizza hut, you have seen chilli's they have done well
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you should have bought those and not of biotechnology which you don't know anything of
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I mean I know about local area networking, a lot of people are buying Cisco, they are buying the equipment saying we are going put them together and route
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Only a few people know about it, we will try then more people will try then higher schools will try then overseas
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they knew they were early in the ball game and they should have been buying that company instead of something they didn't even know about
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Charlie all you need is a few good stocks
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People wake up the morning, there are 5000 companies which one should I buy only 4 or 5 people follow because they understand them
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Let's try understanding this video in the context of India and I'll try to explain it in a simple language.
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Assume BSE has 5000 trading companies and out of those Sensex is made and Nifty50 is made.
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Nifty 50 has top 50 performing companies and Sensex has the top 30 companies
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Now if I speak about those 30 or 50 companies, there are many analysts following the business changes
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they publish their research reports or you are able to see them through television or newspapers
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meaning even if you do your research you might not get a strategic advantage.
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Here Peter Lynch says that before investing in a stock you should do a lot of research so that you have an edge over the market
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now how to do that, he says that you should invest only in those stocks or sectors in which you have a circle of competence
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circle of competence tells you, assume that I come from the banking industry and I know it works
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I can do better research as I know the business and its strategic initiatives as compared to other sectors
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Here Peter Lynch says that you should invest in those businesses which you understand because you will be able to research better
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and when you research better you will be able to take a strategic advantage over the industry soo that you can make good long term returns
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So it's not important to buy all stocks, you should invest only in those whose business you understand
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where your circle of competence lies so that you can understand their news, initiatives and discuss them so that you can take a long term decision
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Next comes the most important question, that now you have done all the research and have chosen a company
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where you are thinking of investing and now want to know that at which price and at what time you should buy its stock.
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Let's try listening to the next clip to understand it
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One thing you do is here are the companies I really like the fundamentals are doing well, the earnings are doing good, the competitors are doing poorly
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and I think the stock is doing well and all of a sudden the stock goes from 40 to 30 because of a decline and you say here's a good chance to buy
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so you might say that some companies were overpriced at 60 and did well at 50 and say not a big deal
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soo you try to find companies that you liked anyway, right now you liked them and then they had a haircut
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not about underpriced or overpriced, they are fairly priced at the starting and then had a 5 for 4 sale
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I would have been researching like crazy and see for those who would do good even when there is a recession and that's the kind I would try and buy
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You say that this will earn something in the future, you have to find out that if I am right how much am I going to make
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If I am right I am going tp make double triple but if I am wrong I am going to loose 30 or 40%, that is the favour ratio if you say it's going to go up, it's already discounting a lot
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So in this clip, Peter Lynch says that you have selected a company and know that the future growth aspects are very good
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After this, you need to see the valuation that what is the price of the company, and price here means the price of the company to its earnings
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according to growth prospects, business expansion how much premium valuation are you giving for the company.
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now you need to pay attention that you may have chosen a goo company but there can be a possibility that you are already paying that price
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Soo the risk can be seen that you are already paying for the good but if anything bad happens the price could fall very fast and low
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So while choosing a good company you should keep its valuation in mind that how much are you paying for the stock price
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because this will be the deciding factor that the stock price would go up or down
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It is important to buy a good business but to buy it at the right price is even more important.
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That is why Peter Lynch says that the business of the company is important but at what price of the company you are buying is also important
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So invest after looking at the company and its valuation.
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So let's go to the next clip containing the most interesting question which you guys also ask and was asked to Peter Lynch too
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which was that will the market crash in the short term, let's find out
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So Peter Lynch also stated that will the stock market crash in the short term, no one can tell
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you can speculate but cannot predict
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If we talk about India, it will grow in the long term but there can be a possibility that some big companies vanish and some small ones become big
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His major objective of saying this was that to speculate anything in the short term can be risky for you because it can never be accurate
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and invest in quality stocks with a view of long term gains and don't worry about the short term
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So this was our video on Peter Lynch where we reacted to his viral comments and how does it make sense in the context of India
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Comment and tell us that should we bring videos of veteran investors so that you can learn from them
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and you can give your suggestions on which you want to see viral reacts