Is Texas Becoming The New California? - YouTube

Channel: CNBC

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Texas, in many respects, stands alone.
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It's huge. It's iconic.
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Its people are proud.
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And lately a growing number of businesses and billionaires have decided they'd rather be a part of the Lone Star State than, say, California.
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This has turned into an absolute tidal wave.
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They are looking for a state that gives them the independence, the autonomy and the freedom to chart their own course.
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Texas is big, wide open spaces.
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There's room to grow and it's got a very business friendly environment that makes businesses willing to move here, too.
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Austin is where Tesla is building its giant new gigafactory, Oracle moved its headquarters and Apple's building its second largest campus.
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Governor Abbott talked to TikTok about a possible U.S.
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headquarters there, too.
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CBRE and Charles Schwab both relocated their headquarters from California to the Dallas area in recent months.
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And Hewlett Packard Enterprise is headed to Houston.
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The pandemic in particular has had a really interesting effect, right?
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If you can work from anywhere, you can still be employed in San Francisco,but living in north Texas.
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Our real estate costs are a third of what you get in the Bay Area.
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Of course, it all depends on having electricity to keep the web, you know, going, especially if you're going to be telecommuting.
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But long before its power grid was decimated by February's historic winter storm, Texas was experiencing a major boom.
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The state's economic development agency says there's been a tremendous increase in corporate relocations since the pandemic hit, with nearly 200
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projects in the works at the end of 2020.
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I think a lot of businesses see that and say, you know what, I can run my business without this massive government interference that I get from
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running my business in places like California or New York.
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Texas and California are the two most populous states with a fifth of the nation's people between them.
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As the largest Democratic state and largest Republican state, the rivalry between them is no surprise.
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While California's population and job growth both slowed to a trickle, Texas added more residents than any other state in 2020.
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With no income tax, Texas has attracted wealthy individuals like Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Drew Houston and Joe Lonsdale to make the move.
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One of the reasons I moved here is it feels like being extra American in a way.
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You know, it's like extra pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.
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As the ninth largest economy in the world, Texas has always been a major business hub.
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In CNBC's rankings of top states for business, Texas came in second.
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Dallas has long been the financial capital of the giant state.
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Incredible amounts of people are moving to Dallas right now.
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We picked up Toyota, State Farm.
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I can't even name all the companies.
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Manufacturing is huge in central Texas.
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Houston is home to big oil and energy, where major names like Exxon and Shell have been since the early 1900s.
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Largely thanks to oil and natural gas, Texas has been the country's top exporter for 18 consecutive years.
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The state's Economic Development Corporation says Texas is home to 50 Fortune 500 headquarters, more than 1,600 foreign-owned companies and 2.7
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million small businesses.
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Its civilian workforce of 14 million is second only to California's 18.7 million.
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Texas has world class educational institutions: the University of Texas system, UT Austin, the Texas A&M system, Houston,
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Dallas, and that's part of what makes it so attractive to so many of the companies coming here.
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And as the pandemic created a work-from-anywhere mentality, data from the U.S.
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Postal Service shows that Texas was the second most popular destination for people leaving the Bay Area.
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The cost of living here is normal.
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It's not artificially inflated.
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So you can actually come out here and actually make a decent living without having to spend four thousand dollars a month living in
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a studio apartment with rats.
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And although California is top of mind when it comes to big tech, Texas has a rich history of tech business, too.
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Texas Instruments pioneered the development of silicon transistors out of Dallas in the 50s.
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In the 80s, three engineers from Texas Instruments broke off to form Compaq, developing the first portable laptop-sized computers out of
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Houston. Dell was founded by a freshman at University of Texas at Austin in 1984.
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IBM has had a major presence in Austin since the 60s, while Microsoft is a major employer in the Dallas area.
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You think about Californians, it's the forty-niner, right?
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The 1849er who came to California to strike it rich and the Gold Rush and the birth of Levi jeans and everything like that.
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So in the northern part of California, you've got tech companies and so it's moved from gold to silicon.
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Whereas Texas is a different story.
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Texas is Texas, right?
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It's the Caddo word and it means traveler or friend.
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And in Texas, we celebrate the Six Flags of Texas.
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And so the idea of Texas, I think is very different.
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It's about coming together.
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It's about bringing different things to the conversation, throwing your stuff into the mix and seeing what emerges from that.
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With a big new presence from Apple, Tesla and Oracle, some are asking if Austin will be the next Silicon Valley.
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We want to learn from Silicon Valley.
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We want to take, you know, copy some of the great things from Silicon Valley.
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We love great people moving here from Silicon Valley, but we don't want to be Silicon Valley.
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People really love being in Austin.
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That has forced and propelled tech companies, large ones, to establish offices here.
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Austin is also home to South by Southwest, which Goswami has been involved with since its early days as a tech festival.
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He graduated from Stanford and moved to Austin in 1995 to work for tech company Trilogy, which also relocated from Silicon Valley.
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We want people to become part of Austin.
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We want them to come and leave some of the California baggage in California.
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Some say a major difference for companies starting in Texas instead of California is in funding models.
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What happens in Austin is a lot of bootstrapping.
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And then, oh, you've got something.
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Let's go add some funding to it, but you've got something that's proving itself out.
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Right? Whereas in California, they'll go fund something with just an idea.
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We have some VCs here.
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We have some funds here. Is it competing with Silicon Valley?
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No, not even close.
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While California had $65.6 billion in VC investment in 2019, by far the highest of any state, Texas came in fifth at
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$3.7 billion. While there's some investors that would only invest in Silicon Valley, there are only more and more investors who are willing to
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go do it other places.
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Investors like Josh Baer say funding a startup in Austin has gotten much easier.
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I've been here more than more than 20 years.
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It's the best it's ever been.
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This huge influx of all these people, capital, ideas, and that's just making it all happen faster and easier.
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And so I think that Covid-19 really pushed everyone over the edge.
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I put together a deck on Friday and by Tuesday we had the round done.
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$5 million and that was all in Texas.
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That would not have been possible seven years ago.
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Last year, Lloyd Armbrust launched a PPE manufacturing company in an Austin suburb called Pflugerville.
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It produces up to 1.2 million masks per day.
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I wouldn't have done it in California.
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There's just no way. The regulations border on the ridiculous.
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The Pflugerville Economic Development Group offered him more than a thousand dollars for each job he brought to the area.
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Austin offers similar incentives, like big property tax rebates at Samsung's proposed new chip factory.
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Armbrust first moved to Austin in 2011, relocating an earlier company he started from the Bay Area.
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Hiring was the number one reason that we came here in 2011.
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There was just access to really smart people and there wasn't that competition.
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You get into Facebook, but then Uber is coming at you and saying like, Oh, I'm going to give you $100,000 more and stock.
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And it's very, very hard to compete with that.
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More than 200 companies have relocated to Austin since 2017 and more than 70 of them came from California.
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SpaceX is expanding in south Texas, where it already has a launch site.
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But Elon Musk is growing his presence in Austin, too.
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He moved his personal home from LA to Austin.
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Tesla's cybertruck will be built at the new Gigafactory in Austin.
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And The Boring Company is opening a big space next door to Armbrust.
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Probably the funniest reason that I don't think a lot of people are realizing is because across the street is the private airport.
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When, you know, someone's looking at Texas, they're saying, how can I get around?
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And I think having access to that private airport is actually a really big deal.
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Getting around the huge sprawl of Texas, especially as more people move in, means traffic is a problem.
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So you know how horrible I-35 is, it's a a dumpster fire.
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A toll road with the country's highest speed limit, 85 mph, offers one alternative to the infamous traffic on Austin's I-35.
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And there's a $20 billion high-speed rail project in the final planning stages.
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It would go the 200-plus miles from Dallas to Houston in 90 minutes.
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You can drive for 12 hours and you're still in Texas.
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Like, it's a big state. At 1.6 times the size of California, Texas is the second largest state after Alaska, and all that land is a big
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draw for manufacturing sites.
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There's plenty of room, like there are just farmers' fields waiting to be developed everywhere around me.
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Of course that translates into cheaper rents and cheaper rates.
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We wouldn't be able to be successful in California with this business.
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Unit economics wouldn't make sense.
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And all this space leaves room for a lot of cultural variety beyond the Texas cowboy stereotype.
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It's not like hey, come to Texas and you have to wear cowboy boots and you have to have a cowboy hat and engage in everything super Texan.
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That's not the case. My neighbor was white.
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My other neighbor was Vietnamese.
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Neighbor after that was Indian and neighbor after that was black and Spanish and so forth and so on.
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So there's a diversity here that I think is hard to top in a way that a lot of people don't really think Texas is.
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Colion Noir grew up in Houston and now lives in Dallas.
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He worked for the NRA from 2013 to 2019, but he didn't touch a gun until he was in his mid 20s.
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In Texas, I'm left to enjoy my ability to exercise my right without any unnecessary restrictions in a
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way that you can't say in a lot of other states.
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A good 75 to 80% of the guns that I own now in Texas, I wouldn't be able to in California.
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Whether it's individual rights or business friendly regulations, Texas government has a reputation for being hands off.
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That, to me, is one of the biggest differences between Texas and California.
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It's the fact that we understand, like we place a high premium on freedom and independence.
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California handled the pandemic far more strictly than Texas.
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Just one example of the states' differences in approaching regulation.
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The government there is so oppressive that they shut down a mask manufacturing facility during Covid.
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Elon Musk cited freedom from regulations as a reason for his move to Texas.
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Last May, Musk openly defied state shutdown orders by reopening his plant in Fremont, California.
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When the county pushed him to shut down again, he threatened to leave California altogether.
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California has been winning for a long time, and I think they're taking it for granted, a little bit.
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Fewer Covid-related regulations in Texas allowed businesses to stay open.
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But Texas has a higher death rate than California.
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Despite warnings from Biden officials, Governor Abbott lifted statewide mask requirements and business capacity limits on March 10th.
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Austin didn't immediately follow suit.
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Starting today, it's mask's off in Texas.
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The city says it is keeping masks in place for now.
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But then last night, the state's AG threatened to sue the city if the city and county didn't comply with the state's mandate lifts.
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Texas political climate also comes with fewer taxes.
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This is a personal income tax form in California.
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I never want to see one of these in the great state of Texas.
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At 13.3%, California has the nation's top marginal income tax rate.
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Texas is one of a handful of states with no income tax.
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No matter which way you measure it, it is way cheaper to live your life and to run your business in Texas than California.
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It's taxes.
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It's cost of doing business.
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It's overhead. It's labor.
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The Tax Foundation ranked Texas as the 11th best state for business in its 2021 State Business Tax Climate Index.
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California came in 49th.
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The Texas cost of living is also far lower.
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I'm priced out of California and people would consider me pretty wealthy, I'm sure.
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Like, I can't go to California and move my family there.
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I couldn't afford it. After living in San Diego for about seven years, we were hoping to have kind of a larger family and move into a bigger house,
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which in California is very difficult, right, if you want a place with good schools.
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Brant Alder moved to Austin from San Diego in 2015.
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While Texas property taxes are some of the highest in the nation, Alder still preferred the tax system in Texas.
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We went from about 1.25% property tax to 1.7% and then got rid of the income tax.
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So for us on the tax side, it was definitely a net gain moving to Texas.
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If you move to Texas, they charge the same property tax to everyone.
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But in California, there can be this huge disparity, which I think is kind of an undue and in my opinion, unconscionable, burden placed on younger
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people and newcomers.
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But Alder was surprised at the high cost of utilities in Texas.
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Take his water bill, for example.
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It was like $12,000, just a connection fee.
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And then on top of that, you know, I think our overall bill was like, I can't remember, $200-$250.
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And that was just for inside our house.
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Alder moved his family back to California in 2016.
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You guys ready to say bye to Texas?
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Bye Texas! Now they're getting ready to move to Nevada.
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My dream is to be able to see California from my front porch, but not necessarily pay the high taxes or the high housing costs.
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While housing is still far cheaper in Texas than California, the population boom is taking the Texas housing market with it.
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Austin home sales in January, for instance, were up nearly 24% and inventory was at a record low.
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Frisco, Texas, topped the Census Bureau's list as the fastest-growing large city in the country.
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Texas cities took six of the top 15 spots, while Irvine was the only California city that made the list.
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More than 43% of Frisco homeowners have lived in the same home for less than 10 years.
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The market right now is just insane.
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I mean, I'm looking at places and they're being snapped up in two weeks.
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They're coming in and they're pushing out people who have lived there for generations.
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In fact, it could happen at a greater rate because the way that the property tax system works, it kind of has almost like gentrification built
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into it. Property taxes in Texas rise with the value of the home, so housing demand raises taxes for current homeowners.
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Is that sort of like auto-gentrification that's built into the Texas real estate model, is that a good thing?
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I think, ultimately, yes.
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And the reason why is because it generates wealth for everyone.
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The businesses that are coming in here are paying a lot more than the minimum wage.
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And I think that's just going to lift everybody up.
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I know everyone keeps talking Austin is like the California of the South.
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No, it's not.
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It's still Texas. It's nasty.
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It gets hot.
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It gets slimy.
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It's muggy. We can't talk about Texas without mentioning heat and humidity.
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It's hot for three months straight and there's no expected reprieve.
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Texas heat has led to terrible droughts and wildfires in the state, just like in California.
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And while California has earthquakes, Texas has hurricanes.
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The deadliest natural disaster in U.S.
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history was a sudden hurricane in 1900 that hit Galveston, killing more than 8,000 people.
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In 2017, Hurricane Harvey took at least 68 lives and flooded more than 300,000 structures, causing $125 billion in
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damage. And in February, an unprecedented winter storm killed at least 80 people and left 4.4 million residents without power and more than seven
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million without clean water for days.
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The Republicans have been in charge for a very long time here.
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They believe in small government.
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They believe in less regulation.
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And it's all good until the entire state goes in the dark and you get $50 billionin
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lost property and insurance losses for businesses.
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While the rest of the country draws power from two national grids, Texas is the one state that's disconnected, largely to avoid federal regulation.
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Some blame this independence for the failure.
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We're stranded in terms of the operation of our grid, by and large.
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The reason that the grid failed is because we have huge and peaking demand, thanks in part not only to the storm, but also because our
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population has swelled so much and really our infrastructure has not kept up with it.
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By early March, huge power companies started filing for bankruptcy after Texas'free-market power grid system led to bills in the billions.
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When a company is looking at its critical infrastructure checklist for considering a move, Texas is definitely going to fall down
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on that metric.
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And I think it's going to impact a lot of decisions here in the going forward future.
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As fallout continues from February's storm, some Democrats say it could be the catalyst that turns Texas blue.
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I think it's not a question of if, it's a question of when.
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In Texas, all of our big cities are liberal, they vote Democrat.
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A catchphrase has even emerged from those who prefer not to see political and cultural shifts in Texas.
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So "Don't California my Texas" is essentially saying: if you're going to come to Texas, come to Texas.
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Come one, come all. We welcome everyone.
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However, you're leaving California for a reason.
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Yeah, sure, you can come over here because you like the lower income tax or the lack thereof.
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But at the same time, if you continue to vote for the people who, like the people in California, who were instituting these high income taxes, it's
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going to follow suit. This next year, I think it's going to feel like the past 10 years compressed into one, from the announcements of new people
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moving here and companies coming here and new things launching.
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While the trend is indisputable, debate remains about whether it will, in fact, change Texas long-term.
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Everything that Elon Musk is today is because of California.
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Like, his first and second, third starups, PayPal, all of that was in California.
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Yet instead of saying, hey, let's improve California and make California really a great place, he's like, I'm leaving.
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So he brings a transactional mindset.
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He doesn't bring a long term mindset to Texas.
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Right? It's just the place for him for now.
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There's an entrenched culture that needs to be respected in Texas because that's why Texas is the way that it is.
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And why it is such a sought-after place to live now.
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And so don't try to uproot it.
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Just add a little spice.
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Bring a little bit of what culture you brought from California.
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Just kind of sprinkle it a little bit there and then leave Texas as it is and enjoy it.
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Try to appreciate what Texas is and just embrace the freedom.