Roth IRA Conversion Pros and Cons in 2022 - YouTube

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welcome back to the channel and if it's your聽 first time here you couldn't have picked a聽聽
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better video to watch no matter what your聽 income level currently you can convert an聽聽
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unlimited amount of assets from traditional聽 IRAs to Roth IRAs if you pay the taxes now聽聽
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now there used to be an income cap but that tax聽 law was changed back in 2010 to allow anyone聽聽
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the opportunity to convert that huge advantage聽 may be slipping away as a reminder if you have聽聽
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traditional IRA assets you took a tax deduction聽 at some point in the past and you will owe taxes聽聽
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on those funds at some point in the future in is聽 counting on it they're salivating at the chance to聽聽
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grab a large portion of those assets as we learn聽 in part four of this series a Roth IRA allows for聽聽
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tax-free growth tax-free distributions and the聽 tax-free transfer of those assets to your heirs聽聽
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in part five we are talking about conversions a聽 conversion is where you elect to move your assets聽聽
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from your traditional IRA to your Roth IRA you pay聽 taxes now at the historically low tax rates and聽聽
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never are taxed again stick with me and i'll聽 explain why roth conversions are so important to聽聽
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the zero percent tax bracket in retirement and why聽 the clock is ticking on this tremendous strategy
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hey Colin Exelby will be here and i provide聽 financial planning for business owners and聽聽
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their families that just makes sense i own聽 the financial advisory practice celestial聽聽
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wealth management and provide advice聽 virtually to clients all over the country聽聽
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currently anyone no matter their income level has聽 the opportunity to convert traditional retirement聽聽
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accounts into roth accounts that may or may not聽 still be the case in the future i could easily聽聽
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see a scenario where congress puts a cap on the聽 ability to convert by higher income individuals聽聽
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in fact prior to 2010 the magi income threshold聽 was only a hundred thousand dollars per household聽聽
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the bill back better bill if passed聽 has restrictions on conversions for聽聽
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those with higher incomes but those聽 restrictions don't kick in until 2032.聽聽
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that's interesting because by putting聽 that date into play what it actually聽聽
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does is incentivize more smart people to take聽 advantage of roth conversions which ultimately聽聽
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raises the taxes that government is able to have聽 over the next few years this is a good spot to聽聽
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point out important disclosures the information in聽 this video is for educational purposes this is not聽聽
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specific financial planning or investment advice聽 in addition everyone's tax situation is different聽聽
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you should discuss your tax situation聽 with a qualified tax advisor聽聽
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before implementing any planning strategy so聽 while we are still in these lower tax brackets聽聽
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and while conversions are unlimited it may make a聽 lot of sense to convert assets and pay taxes now聽聽
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are you in an artificially low income tax bracket聽 because you sold your business you semi-retired or聽聽
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aren't in between jobs are you under 40 building聽 your career and still in a low-income bracket聽聽
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are you retired but not yet claiming social聽 security are you over the age of 59 and a half聽聽
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but younger than 72 then you my friend聽 are in the sweet spot for roth conversions聽聽
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you pay some tax now but then have tax-free聽 growth and distribution in retirement聽聽
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while building a tax-free legacy for your heirs聽 in my opinion there is not a better time than now聽聽
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to explore how a roth conversion can help your聽 financial situation well actually there could be聽聽
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a better time as i release this video the stock聽 market is trading just off its record highs聽聽
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but if markets were to fall more significantly聽 it makes the strategy even better you know why聽聽
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you can convert assets while markets are down pay聽 the tax then and then get the growth tax-free on聽聽
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the way back up for those who converted in 2020聽 during the covid pandemic they look like geniuses聽聽
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right about now from february to march of聽 2020 the s p 500 fell roughly 35 percent聽聽
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what if at that time you had your ira you聽 converted the assets while the markets were down聽聽
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and then as the market has rallied聽 back and even beyond where it was聽聽
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all of those gains are tax-free all into聽 the future i mean if you did do that聽聽
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kudos to you but that's the type of strategy i'm聽 talking about and that could be the optimal time聽聽
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to do it it's always tough to pay tax now i get聽 it trust me i want to pay as little as possible聽聽
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but if the trade-off is pay a little bit now to聽 not pay tax in the future i will write that check聽聽
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all day long but the real kicker here is聽 that roth ira distributions don't count as聽聽
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provisional income so they can't make your聽 social security taxable i'll say that again聽聽
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roth distributions in retirement do not make your聽 social security taxable this video series is all聽聽
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about creating a tax-free income in retirement聽 it is possible to create a strategy where you聽聽
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either contribute or convert assets to roth iras聽 pay taxes over the next five years while we have聽聽
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these low rates and reposition those assets for聽 future distribution without tax that is powerful聽聽
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you know what else is powerful being able to see聽 the forest through the trees make sure you hit聽聽
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that little like button on the video and smash the聽 subscribe button hit that little bell so you're聽聽
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notified when i release the next video in the聽 series now most of us will have social security聽聽
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income assuming that it's around in retirement聽 the delay and praise strategy employed by many聽聽
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allowed us to build up large pre-tax 401k and聽 ira balances if you do nothing when you retire聽聽
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and take distributions those distributions will聽 most likely make your social security taxable聽聽
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the key to a 100 percent tax-free income and聽 retirement is to begin positioning yourself now by聽聽
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converting assets systematically over time you can聽 create a roth ira balance that can be withdrawn on聽聽
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your terms not the governments without taxes聽 and without making social security taxable聽聽
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so how do you pay the tax on a conversion in聽 most cases roth conversion tax will need to be聽聽
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paid from non-retirement assets let's say you're聽 40 years old and last year you sold your business聽聽
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and are spending this year figuring out what聽 to do next your income is artificially low聽聽
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this year so you decide to convert 150 000 of聽 your traditional ira to a roth ira if you are聽聽
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married and that is your only income this year聽 you will be squarely in the middle of the 22聽聽
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tax bracket you will owe 33 000 of taxes on that聽 conversion and then never pay tax on that money聽聽
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again but you must come up with 33 000 to pay the聽 tax from non-retirement assets you can only do the聽聽
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conversion if you have money to pay the tax that's聽 generally why it's best to split up conversions聽聽
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over multiple years and this is also the biggest聽 reason why more people don't do conversions it's聽聽
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nearsighted if you don't pay the tax bill聽 now while you're in these low tax brackets聽聽
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you and your beneficiaries will most likely pay聽 even more tax later on all the future growth聽聽
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and withdrawals as they push you into higher tax聽 brackets another point to remember is the five聽聽
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year rule if you are under age 59 and a half and聽 convert assets to a roth ira the assets that are聽聽
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converted must be held for five years before any聽 withdrawals can occur otherwise you are subject聽聽
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to a 10 penalty now if you remember from roth iras聽 in the other videos contributions can be taken out聽聽
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without penalty and without taxes these on these聽 conversions must be held in that roth ira for at聽聽
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least five years so when can you pay the tax from聽 retirement assets well if you're over 59 and a聽聽
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half you see at 59 and a half you can withdraw ira聽 assets without the 10 early withdrawal penalty so聽聽
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you could do a conversion and then withdraw more聽 assets to pay the tax you have to be careful not聽聽
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to push yourself into a higher tax bracket though聽 with the extra withdrawals to pay the tax that's聽聽
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why in my opinion the best way to convert聽 is to pay the tax with non-retirement funds聽聽
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in my opinion now is the time to consider聽 converting your ira assets but conversions聽聽
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aren't for everyone when doesn't it make sense聽 here's a quick rundown of when a roth conversion聽聽
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does not make sense first anyone that can't pay聽 the tax on the conversion because once you convert聽聽
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you commit to pay the tax now the second reason聽 anyone who believes that their future tax rates聽聽
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will be lower than their current tax rates the聽 third reason not to convert is if you have a low聽聽
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tolerance for volatility and want the assets to聽 be in safe low yielding investments generally it聽聽
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doesn't make sense to convert assets pay the tax聽 and then not invest them in growth oriented assets聽聽
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the fourth reason is something that i like to call聽 stealth taxes these are taxes because a conversion聽聽
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increases your adjusted gross income and you聽 could raise your income to a level where you don't聽聽
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qualify for certain things like medical deductions聽 or the irma surcharge on medicare premiums kicks聽聽
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in or you lose child tax credits and education聽 credits or the taxation of social security or聽聽
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even the loss of the 20 qbi deduction for business聽 owners these are all what i call stealth taxes聽聽
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and you want to be aware of them but if these are聽 triggered it's often a one-time short-term expense聽聽
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to gain a much bigger benefit in retirement the聽 next reason you may not want to do a conversion聽聽
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if you are applying for financial aid the聽 increased income from a conversion could impact it聽聽
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ira assets are generally excluded from financial聽 aid assets but the income from a conversion is not聽聽
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so you may want to wait until financial aid isn't聽 needed another reason you wouldn't want to convert聽聽
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is if you need the funds soon if you pay tax聽 now and don't allow the funds time to grow then聽聽
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this strategy will backfire conversions are not聽 for the short term and the last reason that you聽聽
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may not want to convert is that generally if you聽 are over 72 and subject to rmds your conversion聽聽
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window may be over the only funds eligible for聽 conversion would be those above the rmd rmds聽聽
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cannot be converted remember rmds are required聽 minimum distributions notice that as i said this聽聽
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i said generally because in certain situations聽 conversions above the rmd can make sense ideally聽聽
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if you have a younger spouse or beneficiaries that聽 you plan to leave the assets to then converting聽聽
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now paying the tax and allowing that tax-free聽 growth for them may make a lot of sense every聽聽
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situation is different so work with your tax and聽 financial advisors to create your roth plan before聽聽
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