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How Robinhood Makes Money - YouTube
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It's a theme as old as money itself. The
struggle between the rich and the poor.
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And it became especially apparent after
the financial crisis. People were losing
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money hand over fist in the market,
millions lost their jobs and their homes.
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Trust in Wall Street was at its lowest
point in memory. People were protesting
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in the streets. One company launched a
stock trading app in the shadow of the
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crisis, Robinhood. Named after the
English fairy tale character who took
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from the rich and gave to the poor.
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Good sword. Good archers. Good fighters. Are you with me? (Cheers)
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But those guys didn't start a 5.6
billion dollar company. These guys did.
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It's an eye-popping valuation for a
financial company with opaque metrics
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and plenty of competition. The young
company had its share of missteps as
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well. Too good to be true? Well for Robin
Hood that might be the case. We know that
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this practice is highly criticized, not
only from regulators but also from
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consumer advocates. Yhey say that they
were inspired by the financial crisis
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and all that. Well, guess what? They're
getting a huge chunk of their revenue
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from high-frequency trading.
Prompting questions over whether or not
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they can handle primetime. But let's go
back to the beginning.
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Today's Robinhood, the app, was founded by
two people who were fed up with the way
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you had to trade or at least they knew
others were fed up. We're focused on
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building an awesome user experience.
Onboarding something like a 150,000
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customers in such a short
period of time is is pretty much
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unprecedented in the brokerage industry.
The cost to trade had come down so far
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in the last 20 years. Since online
trading began, why not make it free?
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Now if you want to invest in the stock
market without paying fees, there's an
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app for that. Since Robin Hood came into
the App Store, we've saved customers over
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five million dollars in commissions. All
in the theme of sticking it to the banks.
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The mission of Robin Hood is to
democratize America's financial system.
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But there was something else that made
this product work. We were already
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addicted to our phones. Robin Hood made
trading easy on the device we were
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looking at all day. The combination
incredible growth. The company launched
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in 2013, just over a year late, they had
hundreds of thousands of people on a
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waiting list. The beginning of 2018,
they had three million customers. By the
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end of that year they had doubled that
amount to six million users. The darling
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of FinTech. Many believe the company is
revolutionary. Where they are really
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groundbreaking is how fast they're
moving and how much they're pushing the
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envelope. You know, they can't be
dismissed because there is something in
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being able to double time and time again
where clearly you're resonating with
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consumers and then this speed at which
are offering new types of capabilities, I
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don't think anything companies could
move that fast.
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But there are questions about how much
money is really in the accounts. Robinhood
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gets a lot of attention because the
account growth has been really
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impressive and everything like that. But
there's very little money there. With
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Schwab, Ameritrade, we have larger
accounts accounts that are in hundreds
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of thousands. Not single-digit thousands
on average, which is the last time we
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looked at Robinhood. A JMP analysis estimates
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the average assets and Robin Hood
accounts to be one to five thousand
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dollars. That's compared to a $100,000 for Fidelity, a $110,000 for TD Ameritrade and about $240,000 for Charles Schwab.
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Robin Hood would not disclose
account values when asked by CNBC. We
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don't know exactly where the account
sizes are. I suspect that based on the
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types of accounts, they're
typically lower acid accounts and so
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they're going to be less profitable
today. But I think probably one of the
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key things to think about is that a
small account today could be a large
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account in the future. Especially, if
you're getting to the customer when
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they're young or early in their
financial life. Not only could they take
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on brokers like TD Ameritrade and
Charles Schwab, they might just challenge
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the big banks too. Especially, if you add
more capabilities and more service and
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then service the cash in the account.
Hopefully, you have an opportunity to
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compete for a higher percentage of the
wallet. Which some of the big incumbents
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are doing quite well today. There are
also other startups trying to take
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advantage of this trend. A slew of
investing oriented apps have come on the
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market in the last few years, including
Betterman,Acorns, Stash and more. But it
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is not as easy to take the Silicon
Valley approach of moving fast and
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breaking things in FinTech. There are
plenty of competitors with really deep
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pockets and of course tons and tons of
regulation. Some have called out a
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hypocritical side to the FinTech unicorn
that makes it not so different from
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old-school Wall Street. In October,
Bloomberg reported that the company gets
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almost half of its revenue through a
practice called "payment for order flow,"
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meaning a company's pain Robin Hood to
be the other side of your trade on the
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platform or at least get the first right
of refusal. it's a controversial practice
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but commonplace among online brokers. It
means your orders aren't happening on a
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public exchange but behind closed doors
in a dark pool. Some say it helps market
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efficiencies because companies invest in
making faster trades. Others say, it's
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just a way for high-speed computerized
traders to skim off every trade keeping
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markets opaque.
The SEC has proposed a pilot program to
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look into the practice. There's a concern
maybe it's taking advantage. The
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arguments are to improve liquidity. That
it takes what would be a small trade and
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aggregates it and allows it to get a
better execution quality. The reason to
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run a pilot is to make sure that those
claims are all actually valid. Robinhood
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would not disclose how much it makes
from this practice to CNBC but the
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company did offer an explanation of the
system on its website saying: "We send
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your orders to market makers that allow
you to receive better execution quality
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and better prices. The revenue we receive
helps us cover the cost of operating our
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business and allows us to offer you
commission-free trading. The question is
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can accompany the built a name, literally
on fairness, convinced its customers it's
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on their side. One way to do it, is to
offer better interest rates and that's
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exactly what Robinoohd tried to do. In
December, the company announced three
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percent checking and savings accounts.
Compare that to the national average of
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.09 percent offered by most
savings accounts. For the median American
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house that's got about 8,000
dollars in the bank, this adds up to a
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staggering 240 dollars
a year. Except, the company isn't a bank.
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The move ended up being a fiasco. There
are a lot of concerns about masquerading
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as a bank. Banks are tightly regulated in
this country and so if you have
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something that doesn't have the sort of
safeguards put in place around those
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operations and you try and present
yourself as a bank they're not going to
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allow that. So I reached out to Robinhood. They wouldn't provide any details
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about the potential relaunch of the cash
management account. They pointed me to a
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blog post and said to "stay tuned." On top
of all of that, the market may be turning.
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While accounts were almost surely growing
with a broader stock market for years,
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Millennials,
already scarred by entering the job
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market during the financial crisis, have
now gotten just a taste of their first
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bear market. Robinhood gained millions
of users just after announcing you could
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trade Cryptocurrencies on the platform
in early 2018. But for the people who
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invested in Bitcoin the day the company
started allowing crypt
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trades, things probably aren't looking so
great. They lost almost two-thirds of
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their money by the end of the year. At
the same time, a younger generation of
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traders may be willing to stomach more
risk and volatile markets could be an
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opportunity for Robinhood. When times
are volatile, consumers typically look
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for help or they look for more types of
professional capabilities. So volatility
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in the moment can be chilling and can be
startling to the customer. But it tends
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to actually accelerate growth. So what's
next for Robinhood? The company claims
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its users have transacted over a 150 billion dollars on the
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platform and saved over a billion in
commission fees as of May 2018. It's
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beefing up its executive staff, hiring an
Amazon veteran as its first CFO, as it
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tiptoes towards an IPO. It's not like
Robin Hood hasn't faced challenges before.
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We'll see if today's financial product
can live up to the legend.
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