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>> So we've been talking about the New York聽
investigation, obviously there are a number聽聽
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of different investigations into Donald Trump.聽
And his inner circle, particularly around for聽聽
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instance, January six and I've been very聽
frustrated. I think a lot of people have聽聽
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with the fact that Merrick Garland seems to be聽
scared of a shadow in taking any action here.
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The January six committee members are a little聽
bit more active but they announced just a week聽聽
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or two ago. That they weren't gonna be bringing聽
in any Congress people to testify in a number of聽聽
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other people have defied them so far. What do you聽
think about some of these other investigations?
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And how many of the people that聽聽
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are in positions to potentially investigator聽
provide some sort of consequences that seem聽聽
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very worried about, taking particular actions?
>> Well, I think that we are seeing a real聽聽
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breakdown of white collar criminal enforcement,聽
something I've written about for 30 some years.
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And that's a fundamental core problem. Now Donald聽
Trump has other investigations that he's facing.聽聽
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The Westchester County New York District Attorney聽
who is a former federal prosecutor is looking into聽聽
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him for property tax fraud. The District Attorney聽
in Fulton County, Georgia, which overlays Atlanta聽聽
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has a special grand jury over Donald聽
trump's infamous call to Brad Ratzenberger.
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The Georgia chief elections official聽
then there are civil investigations by聽聽
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the Attorney General in Washington D C.聽
Which could morph into a criminal case聽聽
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and by Letitia James, the Attorney General of聽
New York is an independently elected officials.聽聽
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Donald trump is gonna be involved聽
in litigation until the day he dies.
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But it is really remarkable the lack of resolve聽聽
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to pursue this. Now Merrick Garland as attorney聽
general, faces a problem that we do need to give聽聽
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some thought in respect to. If he indicts聽
the former president of the United States,聽聽
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it invites the indictment of future former聽
presidents by other administrations.
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That's a can of worms that we need to think聽
about in France in Israel and India we've had,聽聽
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the former heads of the government indicted,聽
but we've never done that in the United States.聽聽
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And I think Merrick Garland's fervent hope is聽
that the states will take care of this, which聽聽
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makes it all the more important that Kathy聽
Hockel come under so much public pressure.
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But she has to assigned this case to Letitia聽
James, the attorney general to be reopened.聽聽
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All she has to do is write a letter. And I merely聽
point out my piece, it has to be a broad enough聽聽
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investigation because the Mueller investigation聽
was hampered by the very narrow grounds.
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That which was written and almost nobody reported聽
that because they didn't read the letter. I mean,聽聽
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there's a fundamental problem here that most聽
journalists accurately tell you what their聽聽
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sources tell them, but they don't know聽
the law. They don't know regulations,聽聽
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they don't read economics, they don't do their own聽
calculations because most of them are enumerate.
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>> And it's common practice to, say we'll go to聽
an accounting firm and they'll do the numbers聽聽
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for you. And then of course all you know is what聽
the accounting firm told you. So really is there聽聽
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are lots of things coming down on Donald Trump's聽
head. But the one that's most important I think聽聽
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is the New York criminal investigation that for聽
the moment is dead but can absolutely be revived.
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Just enough people contact Kathy Hockel聽聽
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and we put a number up at DCReport.Org.
>> Everyone should definitely do that. And聽聽
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the peace that David's alluding to is available at聽
DC report, everyone should go take a look at it.聽聽
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I did wanna ask you one more question though聽
because you talked about the potential聽聽
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precedent that could be set if we start聽
investigating or indicting past presidents.
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Obviously Donald Trump is in this very聽
interesting middle ground right now where he聽聽
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is no longer president, but he is in seemingly聽
if you believe him incredibly likely to run聽聽
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again very soon. So thank you for enumerating聽
all of the different investigations of him.聽聽
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What do you think will happen to聽
those if they haven't been resolved?
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Certainly by the time the election聽
happens. But even theoretically,聽聽
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once he's a declared candidate again, could聽
he use that as some sort of legal shield.聽
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>> Well, no, he only if he gets into office,聽
the Republican National Committee is paying聽聽
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a lot of Donald Trump's legal bills and Don聽
Junior's or conduct before he became president.
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Why would they do that? Because they're afraid he聽
will bolt and run as a third party and if he does,聽聽
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the Democrats win the White house and no matter聽
who they run. But if the Republicans nominate聽聽
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Donald Trump, if all of these cases come to not聽
given the money he has and more more importantly.
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The voter suppression which we're seeing聽
this year and which two years from now will聽聽
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be radically worse. If we don't vote out the聽
people behind this, then goodbye democracy.聽聽
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The only reason we still have a聽
democracy is Donald Trump's incompetence.聽聽
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Something I've been documenting for almost 34聽
years and I mean you should be very worried.
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What happens if instead it's a wannabe dictator聽
other than Donald, Ron DeSantis, the governor聽聽
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of Florida Rick Scott, the U S. Senator who聽
should be in prison for stealing a billion聽聽
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and a half dollars from Medicare, Josh Hawley from聽
Missouri or Tom Cotton or Ted Cruz or Greg Abbott.
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Any one of those people is competent. You聽
may not like them, but they are competent,聽聽
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they know how to use the levers of government聽
and they will do everything they can聽聽
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to make the end of our democracy.聽
and to make sure that we are a white聽聽
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males, white supremacist male dominated聽
society for as long as they possibly can.
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>> Exactly yeah, we won't have any, we already聽
know that we won't have any norms to defend us.聽聽
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We won't have a proto dictator who so easily gets聽
distracted and undermines his own efforts. I share聽聽
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that same fear. And so everyone, you could聽
potentially be a part of the solution.
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Go to DC report, read the report and聽
then get involved. Try to get this聽聽
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investigation back online and, David, I聽
appreciate your ongoing work in trying聽聽
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to protect us from that future, but also聽
for joining us on the damaged board. Thank聽聽
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you as always.
>> Thank you.
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