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The Business Of Amazon Shipping Boxes - YouTube
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For the past few years delivery boxes
have been piling up on people's
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doorsteps and in apartment
buildings across the U.S.
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Faster delivery, easier return policies
and free shipping have fueled
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growth in the
retail e-commerce market.
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Amazon alone shipped over 5 billion
packages through Prime in 2017 and
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in 2019 announced they are
expanding their one-day delivery service
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to over 10 million products.
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The corrugated box is a great
medium for transporting things because
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it's durable and sturdy and from
a damage standpoint you're going to
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have less risk of that getting
damaged in the supply chain.
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A corrugated box is the brown paper
box that is used to ship roughly
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95 percent of all
products in the U.S.
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The corrugated boxes is probably the
single best mousetrap to get
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goods from point A to point
B, its recyclable and returnable
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reusable. Shipping cost Amazon $27 billion
in 2018 which is more than
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double the amount it spent in 2015.
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That growth has been great news
for the paper and packaging industry
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after the move to digital devices caused
a drop in production of copy
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paper and newsprint.
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There's no question that it's, I don't
want to call it a salvation but
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it's been a ray of sunshine
a point of visible growth within
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companies where other segments of
their business were clearly in
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decline.
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Amazon has been blamed for everything
from the death of brick and
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mortar retail to the financial
woes of the post office.
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But the rise of e-commerce shipping boxes
has provided a boost to the
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stagnant cardboard box market.
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The box business now faces a
new challenge from lighter and cheaper
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plastic packaging that has proliferated in
recent years due to a
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transformation in the way
packages are shipped.
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And as Amazon tries to cut
down its carbon footprint the
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containerboard industry is bracing
for the fallout.
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Which begs the question with multiple
headwinds on the horizon will
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paper based cardboard boxes that have
been used for generations and
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thrived in the age of e-commerce
continue to flourish or could the
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cardboard box be facing
a new challenger?
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Cardboard boxes are a really
big deal in the U.S.
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The United States is the
Saudi Arabia of trees.
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Someone's gonna make the first box
and that's almost inevitably a
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mill generally in the
Southeast United States.
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China certainly doesn't have trees and
India the extent they do have
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trees they're not necessarily the right
types of trees and shouldn't
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be dedicated towards making
boxes for us.
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The box business grew rapidly up
through 1999 when the U.S.
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coordinated box market had
its peak shipment. Starting
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in the early 2000s the U.S.
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corrugated box market faced
multiple economic obstacles. The
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great recession dragged on box demand
and even after the recession
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demand continued to slow for consumer
goods like soda and for the
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boxes that transport them. The
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move to digital devices also coincided with
a drop in demand for copy
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paper and newsprint.
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But box makers found a saving
grace in e-commerce sales and Amazon
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sale specifically which were growing at
mostly double digit rates in
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the recession and
post-recession years.
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Those e-commerce sales have become
a significant market for the
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containerboard industry. In
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2018 told a U.S.
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e-commerce sales were estimated to be
$512 billion almost 50 percent
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higher than in 2015.
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Amazon captured 48 percent
of those sales.
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Most estimates are that e-commerce accounts
for about 10 percent of
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the U.S.
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box market.
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Amazon accounts for close to
5 percent of U.S.
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box demand.
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By our estimates they are clearly the
single largest box user in the
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US. International Paper with a third
of the market I think does
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closer to 50 percent of all the
amazon boxes evidently they got a bit
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more share than perhaps some
of the smaller players.
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Amazon said they deal with most of
the big box makers across the U.S.
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according to analysts.
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Those manufacturers include International
Paper, WestRock, Packaging
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Corporation of America
and Georgia-Pacific.
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Some investors were turning to these companies
as a way to invest in
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the e-commerce giant without having
to purchase Amazon's pricey
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stock.
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People didn't really start talking
about buying International Paper or
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WestRock as a secondary investment in
Amazon till about the last five
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years.
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Despite the boost from e-commerce sales
the box business still isn't
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growing all that much.
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And since 2018 their stocks
have mostly underperformed the S&P
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500. In 2018, 69 percent of
International Papers total revenue came
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from the box business and that sales
volume has been mostly flat for
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the past five years.
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Although the big producers sold less
boxes in 2018 than in
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2000, industry consolidation has
dramatically narrowed the fields.
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The handful of big players remaining
are based in Memphis, Tennessee,
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Atlanta, Georgia and
Lake Forest, Illinois.
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Analysts have told CNBC that
substantial industry mergers have made
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it easier to collectively hike prices
and those price increases have
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helped drive revenue.
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There are portions of the business
that are in indisputable secular
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decline but if you're in the brown
part of the business, making these
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boxes, that's been some
very welcome growth.
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But those extra boxes piling up on
people's doorsteps have led to a
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backlash from disgruntled customers who
are sick of receiving golf
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ball sized products
in supersized boxes.
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It used to be that you'd order a
toothbrush and it would come in three
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giant boxes and you'd say
to yourself, what is this?
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Well, Amazon is trying to rectify that
by using fewer boxes and using
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other types of
packaging where appropriate.
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With e-commerce packaging underfire Amazon
decided to change the way
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they do shipping.
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In 2008, Amazon introduced the
Frustration Free Packaging program.
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It aims to reduce the extra
packaging created when retail packaged
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products are placed inside Amazon
boxes to be shipped.
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Instead, products certified in the program
that are roughly the size
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of a blender or larger need to be
packaged in their own ready to ship
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boxes. And those boxes also need to
be made of 100 percent recyclable
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materials. For customers that means that
the packaging is easy to
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recycle and the box is easy to
open without all the excess packaging
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materials.
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For a year.
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Amazon offered vendors an incentive of
a dollar per shipment to
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modify their packaging.
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And starting August 1st 2019 Amazon
is charging a $1.99 penalty
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for each product shipped that
needs to be reboxed. And
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basically the point of this deadline is
for Amazon to get out of the
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business of packaging.
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They want their vendors to send them
boxes that Amazon doesn't have to
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touch or rebox.
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Amazon says that in the 10 years
since its rolled out the program in
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2008, it saved them from shipping
out 500 million shipping boxes and
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reduced their packaging
materials by 244,000
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tons. Even corrugate waste that can
be properly recycled is still a
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burden placed on the customer to
tear down and properly recycle
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so this is just a recognition that
we want e-commerce to be the most
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sustainable easiest choice
for our customers.
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In those shift by Amazon have
made the corrugated industry rethink the
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way it does business.
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International Paper said in an email to
CNBC, "At the start of the
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Ecomm boom it was really
difficult to forecast demand.
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There is a big focus on
improving efficiencies through right sized
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packaging."
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But, with Amazon using fewer and
smaller cardboard boxes in the future
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that could prove to be bad
news for the box makers.
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Before Amazon launched Prime in 2005
free two-day shipping wasn't a
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thing. Today it's the norm.
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In an effort to reduce costs and
ship out an ever increasing number of
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products faster Amazon moved to plastic
mailers and plastic bags for
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many of its smaller products. If
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your shipping clothes that don't need to be
in boxes they can go in a
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flexible plastic mailer.
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As a result of which you've seen
more and more products go into
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flexible plastic mailers.
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Over the past year or so it's
just part of Amazon's overall effort to
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reduce its costs.
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Over the last few years we've recognized
that there is a great role to
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play for flexible packaging of all
types and we've reduced our
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overall corrugate and shifted many of
our smaller items to being
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shipped out bound
in flexible packaging.
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It's made a pretty profound
difference we've reduced substantially
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our use of corrugate
box. Sealed Air a
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packaging company that invented bubble
wrap in 1957 started working
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with Amazon in 1996 developing inflatable
pillows for the company to
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ship books.
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The evolution of packaging for e-commerce
it really started off quite
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basic. Whatever item you received you
received it in packaging that
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was probably designed to ship on a
pallet and go to a retail store.
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What e-commerce companies did was they
take those items and they put
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it into another box.
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What's evolved is you now see
a lot more flexible packaging.
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There is a lot of competition
in the mailer market in generally
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mailers are a low margin product.
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As of 2019 Sealed Air a
leader in the protective packaging market
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makes food packaging, air pillows
and automated packaging systems for
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e-commerce. Sealed Air had a
revenue of $4.7 billion
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dollars in 2018 up modestly
from a revenue $4.5 billion
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dollars in 2010.
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When you think about the
challenges that e-commerce fulfillment
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companies face it's really in shipping
expense because if you give
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away shipping I mean someone's paying
for that and it typically is
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the e-commerce fulfillment company.
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There is a lot of desire to
decrease the amount of labor, when you
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are able to get it, it's
hard to retain it and it's
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expensive, automation has really been where
we have spent a great
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deal of our time investing.
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Around 2010, Amazon started using
Jiffy padded envelopes with Kraft
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paper on the outside in
plastic bubbles on the inside.
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Over the last two years we
have invented two different kinds of
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flexible mailers.
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One is the blue and
white all plastic mailer.
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We've recently launched in the last
six, eight months a paper padded
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mailer that's actually fully recyclable
with the paper stream.
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Amazon said they made about 10
million shipments using the paper
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padded mailer and depending on the
month the plastic mailer is used
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about 20 to 30 percent of the time.
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So really when we come down to deciding
if the product is of the size
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it can go on a mailer, it's not
likely to be damaged by going in the
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mailer, the mailer is always the
better fitting option and frankly is
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easier for the customer to choose
to recycle than breaking down a
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corrugate box.
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We're driving in that direction
for many different reasons. But
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those plastic mailers generally are
not accepted in municipal
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recycling programs and you'll need to
bring them to a store that
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accepts plastic bags.
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Many cities have film recycling
and take back programs
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through stores then that plastic
mailer makes sense but we've
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basically moved away from a
non-recyclable to two recyclable
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options. Plastic mailers have some
benefits for the environment. A
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corrugated box uses 23 times more
energy and produces six times more
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CO2 than a bubble
mailer to manufacture. Plastic
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mailers take up less space in
containers and trucks making shipping
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more efficient.
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But in the paper versus
plastic debate not everyone agrees.
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Environmentalists argue in practice the
plastic mailers aren't better
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for the environment.
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They say these products need to
be recycled separately from other
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plastics and they aren't
recyclable in curbside bins.
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Two huge barriers to recycling. The
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latest stats from the EPA show
that corrugated boxes were recycled at
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a rate of 92 percent in 2015
while plastic bags, sacks and wraps were
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recycled at a rate of
13 percent in 2015.
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When you think about what is the
greatest pain point for the consumer
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after having it get there safely
arrive on time people are concerned
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about receiving something that is plastic
or made a poly because of
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the environmental concerns.
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Some waste management companies say
plastic packaging also causes
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problems for the recycling systems.
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Plastic mailers get caught in
the recycling machinery slowing down
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the process and raising the
costs for recyclers and sometimes
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contaminating entire bundles.
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Until Scotty on the Enterprise can
beam the products from the
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warehouse to your living room I think
Amazon's gonna be good for the
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corrugated business.
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I think there's going to be
noise I think you're gonna have
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challenges from time to time where people
say, "Should we try and the
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plastic pouch?",
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in the long run plastic is gonna
be on the wrong side of
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history. Because Amazon is a
market leader in the U.S.
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e-commerce sector any move away
from cardboard to plastic mailers
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could signal a shift
for the entire industry.
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The corrugated box could be about
to undergo a major facelift.
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We're seeing some major trends
among consumers and what they're
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expecting from e-commerce and the first
one is actually this desire
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for increased engagement
with the package.
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In 2015, Amazon partnered with
Universal Pictures and Illumination
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Entertainment to ship orders in
bright yellow delivery boxes
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featuring cartoon characters from
the movie Minions.
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The boxes promoting the movie
and a special Amazon U.R.L.
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dedicated to shopping for
merchandise from the film.
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If a millennial is going to look at
it and it's gonna be an Instagram
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moment then we need to be thinking
about what can we do with the
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package to help foster that. At
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Amazon an engineering team is
working on redesigning the cardboard
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box. In 2018, using computational engineering
they began to test the
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stress and strains and vibration effects
of packages as the moving
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trucks across the country.
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We've optimized the weight of the
corrugate box and reduced the
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overall weight of our boxes
by about 9 percent. And
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we've reduced the size of our box
meaning making them fit better and
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our customers are seeing in some cases
much of an 18 to 20 percent
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reduction in the weight
of the recycled
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corrugate waste that they would have
seen coming into their home.
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While items like clothing and diapers
can ship in a plastic flexible
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mailer, electronics and easily damaged
goods will still need the
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protection offered by
a corrugated box.
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Despite headwinds in the economy
and inroads from plastic mailers
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demand for cardboard boxes from
Amazon continues to remain high.
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Even though Amazon is using some
smaller boxes, the four companies
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that I mentioned have not been
talking about less demand from Amazon
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they're talking about more
demand from Amazon.
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And if it's smarter demand from Amazon
I still think they're to get
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paid for that. With
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U.S. online retail sales expected to
surpass a trillion dollars by
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2025, double the amount it reached
in 2018, the market for e-commerce
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packaging could increase rapidly in
the coming years despite Amazon's
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effort to cut down
its shipping footprint. E-commerce
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packaging which includes corrugated packaging
as well as flexible
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packaging will grow at about 14
percent every year from 2017 through
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2022 reaching almost $55
billion in 2022.
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That growth could deliver sizable
returns for the cardboard box
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makers and we're likely to see
even more boxes and plastic mailers
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piled outside of people's
homes in the future.
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