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Franchise Fees and Franchise Royalties: What Do They Pay For? - YouTube
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why are there so many fees
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that's one of the most common questions
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that i hear from candidates in 19 years
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of franchise consulting let's take a few
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minutes and talk about why franchisors
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have so many fees
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so why are there so many fees or the
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question should be
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are there really so many fees let's get
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into that topic right now let me define
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some of the most common fees that
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franchisors have the first one of course
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being the franchise fee this is a
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one-time fee that you give to the
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franchisor on the day that you sign your
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franchise agreement when you've
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completed your due diligence you've been
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approved for the opportunity and you've
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said yes you execute your franchise
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agreement and you pay the franchise fee
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if you are investing in more than one
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territory or for the right to build
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multiple stores over time then you will
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pay for all of the franchises that
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you're committed to
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up front of course you won't be expected
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to open them all at one time you would
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be given a development agreement on when
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those additional territories or
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locations would have to be open but back
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to the franchise fee so what is this fee
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certainly if you were an entrepreneur
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you wouldn't have this fee so the
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franchise fee
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i call it the cost of entry it opens the
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gate to disneyland and buys you access
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instant access to this ready-made
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toolbox and that fee really is the
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difference between an entrepreneur going
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out and spending three to five years
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figuring out how to make money and
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hopefully not running out of money while
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they're trying to figure out how to make
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money
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and a franchise owner paying that
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franchise fee getting that ready-made
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toolbox and then hitting the ground
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running from day one that is the
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difference so that is the value of a
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franchise fee now the other big fee in a
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franchise is the royalty now how dare
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those franchisors charge money every
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month and take six percent of my gross
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sales right this is the kind of
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questions i get from candidates like how
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dare they you know
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i understand that if you are comparing
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starting a franchise business to
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starting a business on your own or even
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buying a private business for sale a
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business on your own or a mom-and-pop
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business does not have that ongoing
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commitment back to the franchisor but
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what a business a startup business or a
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mom-and-pop that you're buying also
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doesn't have is the training the support
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the proven marketing and the ongoing
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relationship with a brand right so when
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you're paying a royalty which is a
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percentage of your gross sales that
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you're giving back to the franchisor
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every month and by the way the national
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average on a royalty is between six and
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ten percent of gross sales as i said
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typically collected on a monthly basis
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but when you're paying that money back
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to the franchisor
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the franchisor needs to make money if we
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want our franchisors to be there to keep
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growing the brand to keep looking for
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new opportunity to be staying ahead of
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the competition to be adapting and
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changing to pandemics
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we have to have a profitable franchisor
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partner well how does the franchisor
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make money if not from its franchisees
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so we cannot begrudge the franchisor the
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opportunity to make money off of us
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they make money because we make money
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i know that some people feel like yeah
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but even if i'm not making money i still
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have to pay them well how is that fair
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well it's fair because with all due
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respect this isn't all about you
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no just kidding it's fair because
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they know that their plan works
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if there's a whole system of franchisees
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making money and you're one of the
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you're the only one or one of the only
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ones not making money how is that their
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fault
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so when you said yes to a franchise
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business you said yes to owning it
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and everybody wants to own it when it's
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successful but very few people want to
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own it when it's not they want to blame
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the franchise war but is that really
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fair
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you are the number one factor in your
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success in your business
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so if their plan works and it's working
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for other franchise owners and you're
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not achieving the success that you want
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then it's up to you to figure out how to
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turn your ship around it's up to you to
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go out and reach out to those other top
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performing franchisees to figure out
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what they're doing that you may not be
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doing
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to make your business more successful
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you can't begrudge the franchisor the
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opportunity to be making money off of
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you and anyway when people ask me you
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know how is it fair that i have to pay
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that franchisor even when i'm not making
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money they're actually referring to one
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of the clauses in the franchise
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disclosure document that says that you
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know even if you're not making money you
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still owe us x percent of gross sales or
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a minimum of
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well minimum performance standards are
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not in there to screw you over when
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you're you know when you're talking to
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the franchisor and working with the
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franchisor and doing all that you can to
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make your business work
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a minimum performance standard is in a
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franchise disclosure document because
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sometimes believe it or not
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people sign franchise agreements
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and then they go awol
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what do you mean people sign a franchise
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agreement and then they don't show up
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and open their business that's exactly
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what i mean and ultimately the
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franchisor needs control over every
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territory i mean look they're not making
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any money if the guy that bought it
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never opened the business or did
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anything with it so if their business
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plan requires you know them to be making
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a certain amount of money per territory
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that they're awarding then they
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ultimately need to have control over
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that territory
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so when you're reading an fdd and you
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come across a statement like that don't
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jump to conclusions that this is so
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unfair like take the question into the
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process come to somebody like the daily
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coach take it to the franchisor that
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you're talking to
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and ask them why is this clause in there
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have you ever enforced it and what do
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you mean by it
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ultimately what you're going to find is
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that franchisors are your business
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partner
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they turned their business into a
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franchise yes to use other people's
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money to build their brand but the right
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franchisors are not just in it for your
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royalty dollar those are the ones that
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fail the right franchisors are in it for
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your success
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they're making money because you're
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making money not the other way around
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that's a very important thing to always
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remember and when you're doing your due
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diligence it's really important that
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you're exploring multiple franchisors so
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that you can get a sense of who they are
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and how much they really care about
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their franchisees so that when you say
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yes you don't have this jaded attitude
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that you're just giving them six percent
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of your gross sales and they're not
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doing anything for it
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all right but ultimately their job is to
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grow the brand your job is to be that
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great brand ambassador bringing that
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brand back to your hometown and making
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something of it their job is to have a
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more global view watching the
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competition watching the market bringing
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in new adaptations to keep your business
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growing and thriving as the market as
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the economy as the world changes and
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ultimately that's the value of paying a
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royalty right that you're in business
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for yourself but not by yourself does
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that make sense now other fees that
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franchises may have could be a marketing
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fee now it's kind of funny that people
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say how do they why do they charge so
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much money to advertise this business
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you know oftentimes people think that
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in giving that
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franchise fee like that's what they're
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paying for and i'm like wait a minute
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owning a business is about finding
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customers so if the franchisor could
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find your customers for you
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well why would they need you they want
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to be selling a franchise so it's always
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your job as the business owner to be the
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one
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marketing to get your phone to ring now
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some franchisors will take your
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advertising dollars from you and spend
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them for you some franchisors even have
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national call centers so they'll get
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your phone to ring and then they'll
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answer your phone but other franchisors
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don't do that they just say here's our
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marketing plan here's how much money we
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suggest you spend and here's where we we
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suggest that you spend the money and
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then you get to go out and refine that
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marketing plan in your area so if they
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have marketing
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that they do for you and a call center
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you'll probably be giving them those
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marketing dollars and then maybe you're
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paying per lead right that they generate
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for you you know some of those
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franchisors even take the customer's
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credit card
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right and so they can get the phone to
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ring they can answer the phone and they
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can take the customer's credit card and
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that leaves you the simple operation of
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then sending you know the technician out
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to the home or delivering on what was
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sold through that call center that could
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be a really really simple operation
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any fee that you are questioning in a
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franchise
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should be taken directly to the
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franchisor
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to really understand what that fee is
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covering
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and then to stop and consider
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if i didn't own this franchise would i
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have this fee what i wanted to say
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before was it's sort of funny that
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people start questioning marketing fees
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because look
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90
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of startup businesses fail that is not a
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statistic that's owned in franchising
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that is the pure mom and pop
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entrepreneurial route that everybody
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thinks is so great so if you go out and
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you start a business on your own you
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have a 90 chance of failing before your
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fifth anniversary not to be debbie
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downer
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but that's a fact you can look it up so
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the reason that 90 of those businesses
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fail they fail because they can't figure
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out how to make money which aka means
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they can't figure out how to get enough
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customers typically that's what it means
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so if an entrepreneurial business is
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failing because they can't figure out
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how to get enough customers and then
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over here in the franchise they're
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telling you this is how much money it's
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gonna cost in order for you to build a
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positively cash flowing business how can
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we then question the franchisor or say
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oh how do these franchisors get off
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charging all this money to start a
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business they're not charging it it's
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what it actually costs to build the
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business are you getting it the
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entrepreneurs are failing because
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they're dreamers and i'm not saying
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anything bad we need entrepreneurs
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if we didn't have entrepreneurs we would
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never have franchises right because all
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franchises started out as an
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entrepreneurial venture
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so but in that process of trial and
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error these people are running out of
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money so over here in the franchise
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world it's safer because they have a
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proven plan and the proven plan includes
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things like marketing that is essential
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to most businesses to get the phone to
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ring or to get those customers walking
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through the door
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have i made myself clear
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any other fee that you're tripping over
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or questioning
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absolutely take it to the franchisor
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that you are engaged with and more
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importantly take the questions out to
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the franchisees the people who are
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already paying those fees they have the
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answers that you really want to hear if
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they're happy despite paying all the
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fees they're still making millions of
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dollars and knowing what they know now
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they would do it again
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then i'm pretty sure that if you say yes
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you're probably gonna feel exactly like
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they do
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the last point i'm gonna make about the
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fees that you pay specifically regarding
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the royalty
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so when people really go hardcore on me
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and they're questioning the value of an
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eight percent royalty let me first step
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back and explain this you know a lot of
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times people feel like a lower royalty
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is a better deal for them and i'm like
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really let's think about what you're
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saying so if you were the franchisor and
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you know that the national average is
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six to ten percent would you only take
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six percent yeah i don't think so
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franchisors are gonna take the maximum
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that they can take right you would do
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the same thing so don't judge
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so when you see a low royalty
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what does that actually mean well i
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think it could mean a couple of things
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number one it could mean that there's no
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margin in the business so if they take
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more they're not going to be leaving you
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enough to make it a legit return right
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the other thing that a low royalty a
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flat royalty or even a system that has
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no royalty sometimes you see that
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advertised no royalty no royalty as if
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it's a better deal well what that
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actually means probably is that the
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franchisor makes money off of you some
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other way so if the franchisor is the
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manufacturer of a product that when you
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buy the product they're making money
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they may not need a royalty because
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they're making their money from product
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sales
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if the franchisor is tied into vendors
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and they're getting kickbacks from the
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vendors they may have a low royalty
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or again no royalty but how the
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franchisor makes money from the royalty
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should always be discussed now when you
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see a 9 or a 10 royalty you are not
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getting ripped off
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what that screams and i say this to all
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of my candidates is that's the deal that
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you want all day long because a 9 or a
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10 royalty means
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low fixed cost low fixed cost means okay
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so if nobody's coming in i'm not
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bleeding to keep my doors open trust me
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that is absolutely what kept franchisees
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alive in 2020 but in all times that's
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what you want because when i talk to
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owners that are losing sleep over their
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business or stressed out about their
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business it's always around those costs
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that they can't control so when you see
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a big royalty i say it's the deal that
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you want all day long because it means
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low fixed cost or here's another way to
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say it big fat healthy margin
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for more information on the fees that
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you pay to franchisors or if you're
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questioning any of these fees and want
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more clarification beyond what you can
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get by interviewing the franchisees in a
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system please leave a comment below or
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reach directly out to the daily coach if
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you've enjoyed this video and would like
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