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Supply chain at an organization the size of 
Unilever is complex and drives innovation for the  
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whole company. We're speaking with Wendy Herrick, 
the head of digital supply chain at Unilever.  
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Wendy, tell us about supply chain at Unilever.
Our integrated and connected supply chain  
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is at the heart of our ability to make more than 
77,000 SKUs and win in more than 190 countries  
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across the globe. We capture the consumer demand 
and we turn brilliant brand and product innovation  
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into delivering high-quality products to 
more than 2.5 billion consumers every day. 
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Seventy-seven thousand SKUs, connect 
that huge number to supply chain. 
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We have 220 (and, in fact, 221, I believe) 
owned factories and more than 3,300 discrete  
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lines in which we run those products. But 
it's not just our own factories. We also have  
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more than 900 partnerships with collaborative 
manufacturers as well, so it's a huge, huge job  
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to deliver those products to our consumers.
Now, you're head of digital supply chain.  
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It's an interesting title and role. Tell 
us what that means and what it encompasses. 
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When you say the word "digital," people 
always jump to the conclusion that it's  
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all about technology, but we've 
actually defined the role quite  
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differently. Technology is just a piece of it.
My role is overarching to the supply chain  
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transformation program. Our digital 
transformation is aimed at creating  
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exponentially better customer and consumer 
experiences across our end-to-end value network. 
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My role specifically is all about the integration 
and connectedness of it: connectedness of  
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processes, of innovation, not just product 
innovation but technology and partner innovation.  
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It's really all underpinned. The most 
important thing is future-fit talent. 
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Wendy, you mentioned the broader 
digital transformation at Unilever.  
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Tell us about that to give us more context 
for understanding supply chain and the  
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value network you were just talking about.
We went from knowing it all to learning it all,  
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and that's one of our mantras. We 
really needed to open our minds to  
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what's possible and what's out there.
We talked to more than, I think,  
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100 different organizations, more than 30 or 
40 different industries. We really did a lot  
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of outside-in before we came to decide or define 
what our transformation was going to be about. 
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We defined it using what we call the three Ps.
• What we mean by that is platforms, so those  
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things that we're going to continuously 
invest in—not only today but into the  
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future—because we see it's where we can win.
• Another P is around people, so that future-fit  
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talent that I talked to, making sure we're 
upskilling, and we have the right talent,  
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right organization, and roles for the future.
• Also, the right partners. We can't do this  
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on our own, so whatever innovation is out there, 
bringing those partners to the table and really  
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making them an extension of our value network.
I know you're working with Aera, and I'm  
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grateful to Aera for making our conversation 
possible. Where does Aera fit into this? 
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We have the same passion and vision. We want to 
build the self-driving – they call it enterprise;  
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we call it consumer value network. In order 
to do that, you need cognitive technology.  
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With their experience, with Fred, Shariq, and 
Kaushal (and the team there), they have a lot  
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of experience, even in other technologies.
When you talk about cognitive technology  
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and the work you're doing with Aera, can you give 
us some concrete examples to help us understand  
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(sort of get under the surface a little bit) of 
what that means and also why it's very important? 
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When you start to look at your processes, 
Michael, you sit there and look at those  
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things which are non-value added, right? I think 
of it in terms of, do I want to do that job  
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every day? Where can we automate? You look across 
all your processes and you start to look at  
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those areas where you can automate.
There's also predicting what's going  
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to happen and prescribing what you can do. That 
human in the loop is about making it visible.  
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This is descriptive. This is what's 
going to happen. Aera can do that. 
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Then it's about predicting. It's about saying, 
"I think you're going to struggle to provide  
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that product to that customer, to customer A."
That's human on the loop. What do you do? You're  
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predicting something is going to happen and then 
you expect the human in the loop to take action. 
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Then there's that human out of the loop. 
This is where Aera comes into play. 
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I would say they do along the whole spectrum, but 
this is where the intelligent right back. Once  
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you're saying the human is out of the loop, you're 
saying, "Look. For those decisions, just go." 
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Imagine the speed on which you can act. Imagine 
the job satisfaction you're creating for humans  
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that actually now don't have to do that tedious 
work. Also, the opportunities that you're taking  
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advantage of because you're predicting and 
prescribing what you actually need to do. 
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Yeah, that pace of decision-making, it just 
really requires a new way of working in this era,  
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in the era we're in, the digital era, 
and that's where Aera has helped us. 
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Does it require a leap of faith or trust 
that you're placing your supply chain,  
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which is one of the crown jewels of 
Unilver, in the hands of a machine? 
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When we embarked on machine learning and AI 
before, there are a number of arenas where  
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it's a black box. Something comes out and 
they predict that this is going to happen,  
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but you don't truly understand 
the black box, how it's thinking,  
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and what's been put in that black box to take 
that information to give you a prediction. 
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With Aera, it's a clear box, so everything 
that's there, you can follow the logic,  
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the algorithms are there, and you can actually 
then follow. If the human is still in the loop  
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(human or machine), you can follow the audit 
trail of the decisions that have been taken,  
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all the actions that have been taken.
Again, it's like treating this machine  
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as part of your organization. They're part 
of your org chart. It's really about being  
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incredibly smart in where you do that and when 
you trust it for those more complex decisions. 
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Wendy, you've been describing the 
digital transformation strategy. Now,  
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what's the connection between that and 
what you're doing with supply chain? 
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It's actually underpinned by three strategic 
focus areas. One is about agility. Everyone  
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is talking about agility today, especially 
during COVID. Agility for the changing market. 
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Our consumers continuously, continuously change. 
They say the rate of change will never be as  
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slow as it is today, so agility for a changing 
marketplace is one of those strategic areas. 
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The other one is reshaping our costs and asset 
base. How do we get quicker on innovation?  
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How do we make the most use of our assets 
that currently are in the business? 
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Then the third one is about caring 
for the people and planet. That caring  
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for people and planet is front and center.
Wendy, how much of this transformation involves  
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technology and processes versus 
the culture change aspects? 
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Seventy-five percent of transformations fail 
because of culture, so we took that very,  
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very, very seriously.
Culture doesn't happen overnight,  
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but if you look at some of the technology today, 
you can do that within three months. If you look  
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at culture, it takes a much longer time and a 
lot of effort and leadership in which to do that. 
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I would say that culture has been really, really 
critical. But also, the processes in technology  
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are all part of that journey as well.
What are the kinds of technologies that  
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come into play?
It's everything from digital twins to AR and VR,  
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3D printing, AI and machine learning, and the list 
kind of goes on and on. That's just to name a few.  
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There's blockchain. There's just a lot out there.
You really need to be, I would say, very choiceful  
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in how you do that. Of course, you have the 
technology for your ERP system and your basic  
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transactions, but there's an incredible 
amount of technology that's out there. 
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You mentioned AI and machine learning. Where 
does that come into play with supply chain? 
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Absolutely critical, so even if you look 
at the jobs of the future and what people  
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want to be doing, they don't want to be working on 
spreadsheets and doing the same job day in and day  
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out every day. We want to create the jobs of the 
future. We want to have the process of the future. 
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When you start to segment your processes and your 
decisions, there are some decisions that a machine  
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can take an awful lot quicker than a human 
and take in a lot more information. But then  
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there are those decisions that are more complex 
and really need that human in the loop there. 
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Human out of the loop, the machine 
can do just as good of a job.  
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Then when it's in the loop, it's really in 
between the two of them and how you basically  
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segment your decisions in that sort of way.
Wendy, the global pandemic has kind of wreaked  
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havoc with supply chains. What has been the 
impact on Unilever and how have you dealt with it? 
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Alan Jope, our CEO, and the board really, 
really stepped up very, very fast and focused us  
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as an organization (supply chain or whatever 
function that you're in) on five key areas. 
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First and foremost was our 
people, keeping our people safe. 
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The second thing to focus on was about supply. We 
make products that are critical to cleanliness,  
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feeding people. The consumer needs our products, 
so making sure that we could supply those products  
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and get them to the marketplaces where they buy 
them was absolutely critical. That was number two. 
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The third thing was about staying close to the 
demand. If you looked at where demand shifted to,  
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everyone talks about e-comm. Of course, 
it shifted to e-comm. It was exploding.  
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No matter where you went, it was e-comm.
We also saw other consumer shifts. There was more,  
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you know, "Could you buy toilet paper or 
paper towels during the pandemic?" [Laughter]  
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People were kind of big basket shopping and 
going once every two weeks versus going three  
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times a week – that sort of thing.
We were looking at shopping habits,  
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but we also looked at cocooning. People started 
to cook at home, but then you saw a real uptick in  
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other parts of our food business and in our beauty 
and personal care: Dove, the soap, and everything  
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we did there. Actually, in six weeks, we started 
making hand sanitizer like you would not believe  
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to really, really help across that demand.
Keeping our ear to the ground there,  
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we went to cycles that were unbelievably 
fast. When you sit there and say, "Well,  
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we have a four-week S&OP cycle," we went to 
days and, in some instances, in hours. We  
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went to S&OP lite where we could really do it 
at speed. We went from really what I call batch  
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sort of planning to concurrent planning.
Then it was all about giving back in the  
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communities in which we live and work: donations, 
working with our partners to make ventilators at  
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break net speed to help frontline workers. I could 
go on and on in that space, but really, really  
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supporting the communities in which we live 
and work was very, very important to us. 
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Wendy, as we finish up, I'd like to ask you 
to share advice for business leaders who are  
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listening. How can business leaders 
overcome the challenges and the complexity  
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of undertaking this kind of supply chain 
transformation that you've been describing? 
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I think it's really important to focus 
on the problems you're trying to solve.  
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I think it's really important to put the 
consumer at the center of your processes  
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and what you're trying to do and to deliver.
Everyone talks about transformation and,  
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of course, we've been on that journey as well, but 
we're never going to go back to not transforming.  
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Really, we're starting to think about this isn't 
about a one and done. It's not about a start  
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and an end, and we've transformed now. It's 
about what we like to call serial innovation,  
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and innovation not just in the product sense—which 
we've always had and we've referred to it in the  
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past—but it's about serial innovation to make sure 
that you continue to win in the marketplace and,  
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I would say, make sustainable living commonplace.
Okay. Wendy Herrick, head of digital supply  
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chain at Unilever, thank you for 
taking time to speak with us today. 
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Michael, it was a pleasure. I really, really 
enjoyed talking to you today. Thank you very much.
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