IRC Section 679 - How a Foreign Grantor Trust Impacts an Investment or Liquidity Event. - YouTube

Channel: Asena Family Office

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Hi, guys, Peter Harper, the managing director and CEO of Asena Advisors.
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For those of you that are not familiar with, the business we're a multifamily office and
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we advise foreign families and individuals on US-based direct investment and mergers and
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acquisitions. So the start of the year, we're always talking to our clients about
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prospective investments, prospective deals, and we're looking at these structures to
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ensure that there are no impediments or negative parts of their structure that could
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create an adverse outcome from a tax perspective.
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A part of our practices are substantially oriented to an Australian client base within
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Australia. There is a very heavy focus around utilising forms of discretionary trusts as
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investment vehicles.
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And these forms of trust are also quite similar to the forms of trust that you would see
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in most offshore locations the Cayman Islands, BVI, Cook Islands, Nevis, that they have
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very similar structures, trustee, appointed protector, discretionary beneficiaries and a
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fair bit of flexibility for the trustee to determine how income gains and investments are
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made. These factors are very important because the US has a set of anti avoidance rules
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that can can look through foreign and domestic trusts, ignore the ability for
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discretion when it comes to distribution, and automatically attribute incoming gains to a
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particular beneficiary in the US.
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So what we're doing, whether it's folks that are moving to the US for the first time or
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folks that have been they've come from a foreign country to the US and are looking at
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liquidity events, we are analyzing trustees first to determine in financial statements,
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first to determine whether we think we have a US grantor - is there someone who is the
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American taxpayer to create or settle the trust directly or indirectly?
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And then then we're looking to see whether under code Section six seventy-one through six
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seventy-nine, the terms of the trust to draft it in such a way that we have either have
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a - we do have a ground trust attributable to the guarantor or whether someone other than
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the grantor again, a US taxpayer could be deemed to be the owner under another provision
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of the grantor trust rules.
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And this is a this is an extremely critical function, because if attribution does occur,
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you can have this funky outcome where you you're distributing income in the foreign
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country that's being subject to tax.
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And then there's attribution in the US that's also making the same transaction subject to
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tax. And because the the initial distribution and the attribution will go to different
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people, you're not getting matching of foreign tax credits.
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And you're you're it's resulting in double tax.
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This is this is only this can even be worse if you've got a you're in a high state tax
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jurisdiction like California.
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So if you're new to the country, you're or you're prepping for a liquidity event, get
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across your trustee, and understand if you have a grantor, understand if you have a
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grantor trust or if it's or someone other than the grantor that is a US person is an
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owner, and then make sure you're properly modeling your situation to understand whether
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it's any adjustments to to maximize your tax returns.
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Next week and over the over the next six weeks we are actually going to dig into specific
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detail around the individual sections, how that can and the circumstances in which those
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sections can make a foreign trust or grantor trust.
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So please tune into that.