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Michael Franzese: If a mob boss was ever
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visiting a psychiatrist,
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he'd be in the trunk of his
car by the end of the week.
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Along with the psychiatrist.
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That would never happen.
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My name is Michael Franzese,
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and I was a former capo in
the Colombo crime family,
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one of the five New York
Mafia La Cosa Nostra families.
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I'm now residing in the Los Angeles area,
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and I'm here to be a movie critic.
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This would never happen.
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First of all, it's too much
work involved in this, you know?
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You've got so many guys.
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Usually mob hits are not done like that.
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I mean, they're normally
done at close range,
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small-caliber guns and
shotguns being used.
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I never saw anything like this before.
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I know back in the '20s
they used machine guns.
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"Tommy guns" was the term back then.
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But, to me, this scene
seems to be unrealistic.
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Jelly: Oh. Oh,
che stai facendo?
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Dr. Sobel: Hey, Easter weekend, eh?
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Franzese: There was
always a guy of that size.
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In every crew and every
family there was always
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somebody that big that was around.
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Italians eat a lot, and
some of them get real big.
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You know, I doubt you'd
ever see this many people.
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The last time something like this occurred
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was Appalachia, back in New York,
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when guys from all over
the country came in.
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I think they probably modeled
this scene after that.
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You know, ever since law enforcement
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invaded that meeting,
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it never happened again.
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And that I know for a fact.
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Michael: We're both part
of the same hypocrisy.
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But never think it applies to my family.
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Pat: All right. All right.
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Some people have to play little games.
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Franzese: We infiltrated
society on every level,
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from the guy on the street,
the numbers business,
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right up to the White House.
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And you would never see a
politician talk to us like that
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because most of them we supported.
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And I'm wondering if I would've
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been able to stay calm.
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Which was the right thing to do.
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Michael: I know it was you, Fredo.
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Franzese: This kiss of death,
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that was a Sicilian thing, I believe,
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and certainly something that
might've happened in Italy.
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This is a scene that, you know,
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that became close to me
because I had a brother,
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I have a brother that
actually turned informant.
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Testified against my dad, and
actually tried to hurt me,
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and went into the Witness
Protection Program.
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Haven't seen him in 10 years.
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It's very hard to bear, hard to deal with.
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Since I walked away from that life
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and basically, you know, violated my oath
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just by walking away,
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not that I ever hurt anybody,
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but just by walking away,
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contract on my life, the whole bit.
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Did you ever worry about your family?
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And my answer is no.
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We didn't go after law enforcement.
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We didn't bother anybody's
family, that was hands off.
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In Italy, you know,
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they go after your
family, law enforcement,
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I mean, you know, there's no rules
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when it comes to stuff like that.
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Ace: Can you do it with your left hand?
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Signaller: Well, I've never tried.
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Ace: So you're a righty?
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Signaller: Yeah.
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Franzese: I can tell you this
scene is not unrealistic,
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because, you know, in a mob-run casino,
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we certainly wouldn't have tolerated
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anybody cheating like that.
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So it could've been this, I mean,
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you break somebody's legs,
put them in a hospital.
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Even though this is Lefty Rosenthal,
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he wasn't a made member,
but he was an associate,
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but he dressed the part.
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De Niro and Gotti, and,
you know, even myself,
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we dressed up pretty good.
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At every weekend, I was
at weddings and funerals.
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Half the time I didn't know who died
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or who was getting married,
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but we had to go as a matter of respect.
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So we had to dress up quite a bit.
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I mean, I probably had
50 suits at that time.
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Donnie: Like Raquel Welch
is one great piece of ass,
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forget about it.
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But then, if you disagree,
like a Lincoln is better
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than a Cadillac, forget about it.
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Franzese: All right,
I gotta tell you this.
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This is probably one of
the most realistic scenes
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in all of mob moviedom.
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You know, it's funny. I'm a speaker now,
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and every time I say, "fuggedaboutit,"
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which I say by habit,
people laugh, you know.
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This scene made that word famous.
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It applies to everything.
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Just like the sit-down.
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Anytime you had any kind of meeting,
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it was always at a sit-down.
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Had a sit-down, and discuss, you know,
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a life-and-death matter.
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We had a sit-down just to have dinner.
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Everything was done at a sit-down.
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Chili: You're an entry
in my book, that's all.
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You're just a guy who owes me money.
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Martin: All right.
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How about this?
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[Franzese laughs]
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Franzese: It's, No. 1, it's the perception
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that this person is a serious guy,
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that can, you know, maybe hurt you,
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and that intensifies that look.
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'Cause I know a lot of times, you know,
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people said, "Hey, all you've
got to do is look at somebody,
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and they get nervous."
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Travolta, I thought, killed this role.
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You know, a lot of mob guys, I mean,
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myself being one of them, got
involved in entertainment.
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Travolta took it to another level,
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wanting to be a director
and whatever it was.
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We were more or less behind
the scenes, you know,
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financing some of these things,
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getting to know some of the people,
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some of the perks involved with it.
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Really, that was it.
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Henry: Then you had Nicky Eyes...
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Nicky: What's up, guy?
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Henry: And Mikey Franzese.
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Mikey: I saw that guy,
yeah, I wanna see him.
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Franzese: Yeah, no, I don't
think he really looked like me.
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I'll be honest with you,
I was in the theater.
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I had just gotten out of prison,
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and I went to see this with my wife.
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And after a few minutes she
looked at me and she said,
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you know: "Is this
really what you guys did?
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Is that what your life was all about?"
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And I said: "Honey, c'mon, it's a movie.
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They make things up."
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You know, "Don't pay attention."
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No sooner do I say that
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than they introduce my character,
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and she looks at me,
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and I say, "C'mon, we gotta go."
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And I walked out, 'cause I
didn't know why they put me in.
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It was a different crew.
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Henry: Here's Frankie the Wop.
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Frankie: Listen, are you out of trouble?
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Henry: Freddie No Nose.
Freddie: Hey, how're ya doing?
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Franzese: People say,
"Well, how did you come up
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with those nicknames?" You know, like,
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there was a guy that
we called Chicken Head.
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And the reason we called him that
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because he used to shoot
the head off of chickens
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when he was practicing his marksmanship.
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You know, we had Benny Eggs.
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"Well, why'd you call him Benny Eggs?"
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Well, he liked eggs.
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He ate them all the time.
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So we weren't really
original with the names.
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We had Fat Tony Salerno.
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"Why'd you call him Fat Tony?"
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Well, he was fat.
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Tommy: What do you mean, funny?
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Funny how? How am I funny?
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Henry: Just...
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Franzese: You know, they
made Henry out to be
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a lot more
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significant in the life
than he really was.
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He was just a lost soul.
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He always had a drug
problem, alcohol problem.
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For me, Joe Pesci is the best
portrayer of any mob guy.
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You know, he was around street guys,
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he knew guys out on the street.
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And he just had it down so perfectly.
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Police: Hey, put your eyes up.
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Franzese: You know, most
of the local police,
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they didn't bother us.
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You know, it was really
the FBI and, you know,
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investigative agencies like
that, especially the feds.
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I doubt if anybody,
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even though he was protecting his son,
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would ever come right out front like that
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and look to put people on
front street, so to speak.
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Front street, in other words,
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you're telling the police that, you know,
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one of these guys might be
guilty of doing something.
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So you're actually,
you know, in mob terms,
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you're becoming a rat or a snitch.
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And, you know, you pay a price for that.
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Charlie: He has about $30.
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It's all he's got on him, Michael.
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Michael: Where's the rest?
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Charlie: Yeah, where's the rest?
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Johnny Boy: Well, I bought
a few rounds of drinks
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over here while I was waiting.
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Franzese: You know, this
whole shylocking scene,
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you know, very accurate.
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Shylocking, loan sharking, you know,
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basically lending money at usurious rates.
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And everybody that was in that life
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was in that business. That had any money.
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You know, he plays these roles good.
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I think, today, you know,
the way De Niro's acting,
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he thinks he really is a
mob guy, you know. [laughs]
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It's kinda permeated his
whole being and his character.
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Marge: Homer, where'd you get that truck?
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Homer: Uh...it fell off a truck.
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You know, a truck truck.
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Franzese: A lot of
things fell off a truck.
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I mean, that was the
expression that we used.
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Whether it be clothing, a suit, you know,
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electronics, cars, whatever.
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You know, hijacking was a
big thing back in the day,
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no question about it.
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And there was some guys that
were professional hijackers.
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Today, it's very difficult,
but it was a lot easier
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to change the serial numbers
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and make a new car out of it,
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and nobody could ever find it, so.
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Hoffa: Let's get outta
here, Frankie, c'mon.
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Franzese: You know, I'm a little bit jaded
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when I look at this film,
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only because I know
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that the Sheeran story is fiction.
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I mean, he didn't kill Hoffa.
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I didn't know Jimmy Hoffa personally,
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but it was during my time.
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But I do have insight into,
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you know, what really happened there.
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He was a hot-headed guy,
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and he was one of the most powerful guys
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in the country at that point.
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Remember this, you control the teamsters,
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in a big way, you control the country.
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You know, No. 1, you
got zillions of dollars
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in your pension funds.
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You call a strike as a teamster, you know,
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you've got 2 1/2 million people stopping,
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nothing gets delivered, everything stops,
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and that's a tremendous amount of power.
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The Joey Gallo killing, that was,
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'cause I know, you know, for
a fact, what happened there.
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Like I said, that was our time.
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And, you know, I was
in the middle of that.
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I wasn't the shooter, don't get me wrong,
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but I knew it was our family.
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For him to be so, you know,
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outspoken about doing
that, it was just so wrong.
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I mean, the scene was accurate.
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I mean, he did get killed in that way.
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He did get out into the street,
and they did get him there,
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and his family was there, the whole thing.
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But Sheeran wasn't the shooter.
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Reporter: You are in effect
the mayor of Chicago,
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you've not simply been
appointed to that position.
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Franzese: I mean, he
certainly looked the part.
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You know, everybody looks
at Capone like he was
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a 40, 50-year-old guy.
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He was, like, 29 years old.
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He was in his 30s when
he passed away, I think.
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You know, Capone was bigger
than life in the movies.
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He wasn't bigger than life with us.
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I mean, nobody really regarded him.
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You know, even my father said, you know:
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"We chased him out of Brooklyn.
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He went to Chicago."
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And my father's 103,
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so he was around all of these guys.
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You know, unfortunately, I
get asked about all the time
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is about murder in that life.
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And I will tell you this.
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Murder was taken very seriously, OK?
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It can only be approved by the boss.
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So I've been very, very
fortunate to be here,
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where I am now, and not dead or in prison,
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like just about all of my associates.
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If a mob boss was ever
visiting a psychiatrist,
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he'd be in the trunk of his
car by the end of the week,
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along with the psychiatrist.
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That would never happen.
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Crowd: Don't do it.
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No, no, no!
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Don't do it!
My arm!
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Franzese: There's no way in the world
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if a mob boss hit anybody
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that that guy would come back at him.
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No way.
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Especially in front of audience.
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If he did,
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you don't ever raise
your hand to a made guy.
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No matter who you are, you raise your hand
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to a made guy, you're dead,
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and so, and they know that.
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So this is not a realistic scene.
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So David Chase gets in
touch with me through
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a friend of mine, Jack
Gilardi at ICM, and he says:
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"Look, I'm doing this series for Fox.
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And we want you to be
involved as a consultant."
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And I said, "You know, I'm on
parole and all this stuff."
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So I turned it down.
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That's how smart I am, right?
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"The Sopranos."
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But I always wondered why he contacted me.
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In my house, back in the
'60s when it was being built,
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the government, the FBI,
installed a bugging device.
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They had it in the kitchen of our house,
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and they picked up a lot of the
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conversation on a daily basis.
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And I am telling you
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that Tony Soprano's mother
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was so much like my mother.
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You know, maybe he got the
Freedom of Information Act,
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maybe he did something, but he got a hold
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of that surveillance tapes,
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and he patterned that woman
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on my mother.
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And I said, I would, I tell you,
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I would almost stake my life.
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I've never had a chance
to talk to him about it.
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Carmine: One other thing, though.
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John said he went to a
cookout at your house.
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Tony: Yeah.
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Carmine: A don doesn't wear shorts.
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Franzese: That's not true at all.
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I mean, I saw...[scoffs]
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you know, on a hot summer
day in Harlem, you know,
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guys would sit out in front
of their social clubs,
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and they'd be in shorts.
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Even the boss.
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I mean, you know, that's not true.
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I mean, you go on a
boat, you're in shorts.
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Or maybe somebody told them that
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that, you know, didn't know
what they were talking about.
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But that's not true.
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