Excel Finance Class 28: Relationship Between APR, Period Rate and Effective Annual Rate - YouTube

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welcome to Excel and Finance video
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number 28 hey if you want to download
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these files hey this video 28 we got to
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talk about interest rates and we got to
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talk about APR which is required by the
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Truth in Lending Act annual percentage
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rate and then the actual real rate or
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effective annual rate all right we'll
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stand we're going to see a bunch of cool
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problems where knowing how to go from
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APR to effective rate or effective to
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APR or period rate also back and forth
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can help us solve particular problems
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let's start with period rate so far in
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this class we've always referred to
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annual percentage rate as I but now we
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can refer to it as APR APR it's usually
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required by law on loan contracts for
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example truth' required by the Truth in
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Lending Act this is Congress saying that
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APR has to appear in certain contracts
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now APR we're given that 12% or 0.12
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anytime we have compounding periods
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greater than 1 then annual percentage
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rate and effective annual rate will be
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different let's go ahead and first
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calculate our period rate we've done
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this you know 30 times already in this
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class we take our annual rate divided by
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a number of compounding periods so
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there's our period right now it's
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interesting the APR and you're
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percentage rate is defined this way take
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the period rate that's I divided by n
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and multiply it by the number of periods
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right so as an example if we know the
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monthly rate is this and we know n is 12
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we can go ahead and calculate the annual
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percentage rate this times twelve and
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that'll give us six percent or point
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zero six now here if this is the rate
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this know let's go down here sorry let's
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just say APR is eighteen percent right
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on a credit card compounded monthly now
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you always got to look at your contract
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because it could be compounded all sorts
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of different ways but in this example n
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is 12 now this is the one required by
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law right but anytime you have an APR
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with an N greater than one then the
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actual effective annual rate is greater
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the effective annual rate is the rate
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that when multiplied times some amount
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gives you the future value but it's if
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this is twelve times four you know we
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have to do our formula we have to figure
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out the period rate add one and then
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raise it to the N and multiply that by a
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prince apresentava effective annual rate
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will in essence show us the real rate
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which is always going to be greater than
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eighteen percent when n is greater than
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one and it will allow us to multiply
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just this effective rate times our
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original principal and that will give us
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the interest we won't have to mess
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around with all the N and everything so
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let's see how to calculate the effective
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annual rate equals and this should look
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familiar one plus our period rate that's
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the annual rate divided by number of
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compounding periods and since we're
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doing interest rates here so far in the
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class we've always had an exponent of n
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times X but this is just the annual rate
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so we don't need X we don't need years
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we just take caret n now that'll give us
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the amount one plus the actual rate and
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if we're using this to multiply times
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the original present value or principal
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amount that one gives us the original
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amount and the extra little bit their
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point one nine five six gives us the
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extra interest earned
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so to actually figure out the rate what
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do you do you subtract one and that's
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our formula now we can compare these two
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and clearly see I think I have something
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written over here but we can clearly see
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that the when n is greater than one
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we're always going to get a not fixing
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this correctly anyway any time you have
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an greater than one this rates always
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going to be bigger now we use the if we
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used our math formula but there's a
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function called effect so we're going to
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try that effect there's a little
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drawback to the effect though it just
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wants the nominal rate and by the way
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APR can be called nominal rate quoted
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quotes rate that supposed to be quoted
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rate stated rate annual interest rate
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and also others so in excel nominal
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means APR so I'm clicking there comma
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and it NP ery oh that's different
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we've seen NPR so this is slightly
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different I said before that all these
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arguments in these financial functions
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are all the same occasionally they're
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slightly different but NP ery just means
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number of compounding periods and
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that'll do it that'll just give us our
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19 now the one problem and we'll run
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into this in just a little bit when we
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do our money tree example this argument
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right here has to be an integer if it's
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not it truncates it so if we were to
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give this twenty four point four
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actually put that number in there it
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would only take the twenty four so
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sometimes we get a slight error with
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this function if this is supposed to be
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include a decimal it just won't do it
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it truncates it in this case C twelve is
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a integer so there's no problem
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whatsoever
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now some notes never do ei are divided
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by n only a PR so when we're given an a
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PR you know we're given our rates in the
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contract or in the ad it says four
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percent compound
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did 365 times a year or or 10%
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compounded monthly
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that's APR in the end never do this this
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doesn't work APR
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are effective annual rate only one n
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equals one and ei R is always going to
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be greater than a PR one n is greater
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than 1 now let's go over and look at an
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example I want to prove that we could
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take this rate and multiply it by our
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original present value or our original
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investment amount and get the same exact
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answer as if we did our fancy formula
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with APR and n so let's come over here
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the sheet six point five let's calculate
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our period rate equals and I'm going to
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calculate my ei R one plus the period
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rate carrot 12 minus one I actually
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overtime have tended to always do this
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formula so when I run into a situation
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where this is a decimal which we'll see
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later I just use a formula because it
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won't give me an error whereas the
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effect function will so there it is a PR
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annual rate now our goal here is I want
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to do future value with APR and N equals
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12 so I'm going to go equals and we'll
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use the future value functions how about
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that so the rate I'm going to do our
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period rate sorry come our nper comma
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and this present value now here I just
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said we'll do we'll do it leave dollars
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in for one year so the the number of
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compounding periods will be twelve
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because there's twelve months in one
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year all right so there's our future
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value we get a one hundred and twenty
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six dollars and eighty three cents now
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let's do it again
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but now the rate we're going to use the
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ear comma and the nper is one now here's
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this is the example of why the
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definition of e a are the effective
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annual rate is given these two inputs a
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PR and n it will give us the rate that
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will calculate any future value with a
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compounding period of one comma comma
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and then the present value is this now
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what's so nice about effective annual
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rate as compared to a PR is what it
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actually shows you the true rate this
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one it's kind of hidden because there's
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some interest in there that we're either
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going to earn or for you know if it's
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debt we're pain right this shows you a
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more truthful number and that's why it's
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kind of ironic that the APR is required
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by law well who made the law Congress
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who influenced Congress people well the
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bank so that's why a PR is required on
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loan documents not this one because this
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one will show you the true rate and it
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will always be more when there's more
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compounding periods we have an example
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in a couple I think number ten here
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we'll do the effective annual rate for a
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money tree loan one of those short-term
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loans and we'll see that there's a huge
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difference between this one and APR but
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here we can see there is a difference
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it's not that much now our next example
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we want to go over to nine and we want
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to we want to compare so we have two
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savings accounts we have an APR of 11%
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compounded four times a year or ten
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point seven five compounded 365 times a
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year so which one do you actually want
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well we want the one that will give us
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the most interest right so the way you
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can do this is you calculate ear because
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ear you can compare they're both one
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compounding period per year this is for
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365 so it's hard to tell so I'm going to
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come here and do my formula for each one
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of these one plus
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and remember this is just for one year
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we're comparing rates so I did one plus
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the comp the period rate raised to the
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number of periods per year minus one
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okay so eleven point four six we'll do
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this one here for this next rate I just
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love being able to do this right so now
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I can go in and not get tricked by
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whatever advertising I can just
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calculate it myself and say okay I know
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which one I want and I want this one
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because this one's a little bit bigger
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now in this circumstance we can use the
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effect because there's no decimal here
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and again in our next example we will
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see a decimal so I'm going to say this
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that's the nominal rate APR comma NP ery
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that one right there and then this one
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so whether you use the formula or the
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function the built-in function you can
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see we get the same number so our
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conclusion if we want to earn more
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interest use this one right here this
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okay so now let's go over to the most
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brutal example brutal means this is
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really terrible this is not what you
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want to do you do not want to go to you
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know whatever they're called like I call
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this money tree our us loaning you know
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where you go in and you give them a
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check amount we write a check for two
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hundred and twenty-five dollars and they
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give you cash today of two hundred and
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then 15 days later they cash the check
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now think about that how much interest
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did you pay 25 dollars well let's go
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ahead and use our basic knowledge of
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comparing the part to the whole to
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figure out what our interest rate is we
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can we can I adhere two hundred and
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twenty five dollars extra interest
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compared to this two hundred but the
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thing is when we calculate this this
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will give us the period rate this will
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give us 15 day period rate so I'm going
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to do this all one formally and remember
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we earlier in Chapter zero zero did our
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formulas for change what is the
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cent change we have an end amount and a
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begin amount so I'm simply going to take
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the end / they begin minus one and in
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Chapter zero zero we saw the the
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deductive proof for why that's true
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12.5% hmm that seems like a lot but in
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annual rate it wouldn't be that much
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right if it was an annual rate for a
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credit card it wouldn't be so bad right
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unless you went to BECU you know then
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that would be bad beat you see you only
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tart charges what six seven percent okay
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so 15 day rate hmm there's 365 days in a
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year before we can before we can
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actually figure out actually we can
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figure out the APR right off the bat
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except for we don't know how many
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periods there are right 15 days we know
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that there's 15 days but how many
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fifteen day periods are there in 365 day
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year well to figure out how many periods
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that's the number of fifteen day periods
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in one year we say equals 365 divided by
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15 that tells us how many periods are
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because you need to know how many
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periods in order to calculate APR and ei
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are here's our decimal and that's why
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sometimes our using the effect function
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where this argument right here is
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truncated what this will do and I'll
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we'll look at it we'll calculate what
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the effect and it just it's going to
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take the 24 not the 0.33 all right APR 8
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2014 4 and I'm going to 1 plus and what
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is our period rate
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12.5 12.5% or 0.125 close parentheses
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and our carat and our number of periods
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minus 1.so 1656 percent that doesn't
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seem legal does it happens all the time
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pretty terrible too bad there's a lot of
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law that prevents that any way if there
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was a law that banks did figure a way to
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get around it let's go ahead and do
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effect the the moral of the story is
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just don't go don't go do this if it
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exists out there and they always seem to
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figure out ways to do this just don't go
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out and take a short-term loan because
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you're losing money okay the nominal
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rate that's our APR so right here
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nominal is a PR and nper sorry it's
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going to be approximately true but not
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quite because it'll take the 24 so still
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that's pretty terrible this is a little
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bit more terrible all right and this is
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not an uncommon example so it should
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bother you when you you see this but
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knowing finance is good information
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alright let's look at our last example
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sometimes we know ear effective annual
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rate and we need to figure out APR now
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we're going to show you the math just
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briefly I don't even not even quite sure
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why actually we could go over to the the
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PDFs I have all of this here and with
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some good notes all the examples we just
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did the loaning tree example is a little
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bit different I chose 25 days here and
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you can see we got two thousand five
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hundred percent when we did it that way
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here's our example here and you can see
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I'd show you the the math here of how to
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do it with math the problem is is unless
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n is less than five if it's less than
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five you can do the math otherwise you
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have to do something called iterating
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which means you have to plug in numbers
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until
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you zero in on the answer and that's
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what our function that we'll see we'll
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do called nominal but just for a moment
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I want to type in this will do it real
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quick you can just see it once and then
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forget it
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here's our and there's the proof for it
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we went from our formula right this is a
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formula given and then we went from that
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and solved it just for the eye or the
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APR all right so we're going to take our
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ear add one closed parenthesis and then
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caret open parenthesis one divided by N
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and then from that we have to subtract
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one and do a closed parenthesis now
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let's make sure I did that right not
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quite
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oh oh that gives us the period rate and
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so to calculate from that the period
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rate we have to multiply it times our
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number of periodic remember the
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definition of APR is period rate times
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and now the nominal function nominal oh
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look it's just like effective except for
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it says effective rate and NPR and guess
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what this function also truncates that
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so there you go and sometimes you know
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that you have this effective annual rate
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and actually lay in a later video we
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will use this trick to great effect that
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we're going to have an investing
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scenario that's quite complicated and
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we'll need to go back and forth between
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solving for APR and ei R so here this is
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just the the math of it here's the ER a
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and we solve for APR again an example
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later we'll have to use the nominal
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because our n will be greater than 5 all
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right that is a bunch of cool things
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about interest rates I'm going to come
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back in our next video we will start
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talking about annuities cash flow
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streams that are of equal amount
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and the distance between each payment is
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equal in time all right we'll see you
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