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-Growing up, I had
two brothers and a sister.
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Two years ago,
we found out that
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we have at least 17
half-siblings.
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-"Sorry, this is probably the
weirdest text you will ever get,
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but I'm looking for a Maddy
who was conceived
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using donor 8928.
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Hello, I'm Allysen. And
apparently I'm your sister."
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-I was looking around
on campus thinking,
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"Well, now every boy
with brown hair
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and green eyes is
potentially my brother."
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-It was definitely shocking
to find out
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how many of us there were.
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It was very interesting --
the idea that somebody,
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essentially, is suing
because you exist.
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-This case involves
a medical institution
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and its fertility clinic.
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-I had many reservations
as to the potential pitfalls
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of being a sperm donor.
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-To my knowledge,
this is the biggest lawsuit
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from a sperm donor about
the misuse of their donation.
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The lawsuit that we filed
is for $5.25 million.
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-I think we're gonna
start seeing more
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and more similar situations
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to where these fertility clinics
were misusing genetic material
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and creating humans in a manner
that they weren't supposed to.
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The problem is -- is that
there is no external oversight
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on sperm banks.
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And so that's how you can end up
with one donor who has 15
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or even 50 or, in some cases,
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we've even heard examples
of 150 offspring out there.
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-My name is Allysen.
-I'm Ricka.
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-My name is Robyn.
-I'm Honi C. Gruener.
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-I'm Maddy.
-My name's Jake Shallenberger.
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-I'm one of Bryce's...
-Bryce Cleary's...
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-Bryce Cleary's...
-I'm a donor sibling.
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-I'm a donor child.
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-And I'm a donor child
of Bryce Cleary.
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鈾櫔
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-Hi, love.
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[ Gasps ] Good morning.
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I probably had suspicions
starting around 16,
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just because the siblings
that I grew up with that
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were my dad's from a previous
marriage looked like him.
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I knew my nose was different.
I knew my face was different.
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I just didn't fit
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the family picture, looks-wise,
that everybody else had.
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I thought, for one point,
maybe I was adopted.
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But then there was pictures of
my mom in the hospital with me.
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So I knew that that wasn't it.
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And so I started
asking questions,
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and my mom always just said,
"No, no, no."
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And finally, when I was 20,
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DNA testing was
kind of getting popular.
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My mom and I were in the car,
and I said,
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"I'm gonna find out,
so why don't you tell me?"
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And she told me.
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She said,
"You're a donor child."
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I remember her saying,
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"Now you're gonna go look
for your family, aren't you?"
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And I said no, because to me,
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I thought she was talking
about a dad.
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And I've always been confident
I have a dad.
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It wasn't until later, a couple
of days, when I realized,
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wait a minute, there's probably
other kids out there.
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There's probably other siblings
out there that I would have.
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I found out my mom used OHSU
and found donor number 8928
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was the donor that was used
to conceive.
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I went on the National Donor
Sibling Registry site,
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and Maddy had already
registered herself on there
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under our donor number.
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-I got Ally's text as I was
on my way home from work.
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I was waiting for my bus,
and my heart just stopped
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and my stomach dropped
because it was the text
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I'd pretty much been waiting for
for years at that point.
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鈾櫔
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-I just remember being
so relieved when she was like,
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"Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited
to talk to you," and I was like,
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[Exhales] "Okay, we're gonna
have a relationship.
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We're gonna have a conversation.
This is gonna be okay.
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She's not gonna
tell me to go away."
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-[ Laughs ]
-That nerves was over.
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But then it's like
a whole new nerves of like,
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"Who is this person?"
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It was probably about six months
after we tested with 23andMe
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that I realized if we tested
with more databases,
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we would have more chances
of finding siblings.
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And so I tested
with Ancestry DNA,
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and when my results came back,
we found Honi.
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-My parents told me
when I was really young --
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they told me about age 8 --
they were getting a divorce.
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I was very angry,
and they were fighting.
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And I asked them, "What other
secrets have you kept
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from me my whole life?"
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Then they had to have a
sit-down talk with me.
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They sat me down,
and my dad was crying.
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I have maybe seen my dad cry
three times in my entire life.
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They explained it to me,
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and I didn't really understand
at first because I was so young,
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but it didn't change anything
with my dad.
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But he thought it would.
And that was the hardest part.
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-We are on our way.
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-All right, dope. Do you know
what Robyn's driving?
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'Cause I tried to call her,
and there's a car here.
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-Jake's driving, like,
a little silver car.
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Just go knock on the door.
It's your brother.
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-All right.
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-We met Honi, and then we
matched to two siblings
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who remain anonymous.
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After that, we met Robyn
and then Ricka and then Jake.
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We have a new sibling
every six months or so.
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鈾櫔
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[ Knocking on door ]
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-Hi!
-Hey.
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-I'm Maddy.
-Nice to meet you, Maddy.
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-Hi, Jamie.
-Hi, Maddy. Nice to meet you.
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-Nice to meet you, too.
-I was like, "I'm excited
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to see who's taller --
Jake or Maddy."
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-This is Jamie.
-Hi, Jamie.
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-I met Ally last night.
-Yep.
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-Just met Robyn. I met everybody
today, other than Ally.
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[ Laughter ]
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-For me, the most surprising
thing about the OHSU visit
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was hearing that there was
probably 14 or more of us
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and then hearing
that beyond that,
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the donation could be
shipped out
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to literally anywhere
in the United States.
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-My mom said I didn't walk
until 18 months,
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so looking at him,
I'm like, "He's good."
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-Robyn had expressed interest
in wanting to contact Bryce,
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and up until that point,
me, Honi, and Maddy
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had all been on the same page
of just not really wanting to.
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She said, "I'm going to do it."
And we said, "Great, good luck."
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-I reached out to him
over Facebook
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and said, like, "Hey, want you
to know that I believe
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that I'm one of your daughters
from when you donated.
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At this time, I'd love to get
some information from you."
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He actually put in the e-mail
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that when he donated
back in the '80s,
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he was told that there would be
no more than five
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and that they would all be born
on the opposite coast.
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And I told him, "I can confirm
there are more than five
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and that we are all
from the Oregon area."
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I showed Ally, Maddy,
and Honi the e-mails.
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-I was so angry for him.
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And I think my first wording
in that first e-mail was,
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"Hi, I'm Allysen.
I'm one of your donor children.
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I'm not looking to have any
sort of relationship with you
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at this point in my life,
but I have
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some disturbing information
that you need to be aware of."
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And I just unloaded
everything on him.
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And that was the last
conversation I had with him
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until in May of 2019,
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he sent me an e-mail and said,
"Sorry to bother you,
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but I've decided
to pursue legal action,
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and my lawyers
would like to contact you."
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And I said, "Absolutely."
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-Prior to participating
in the program,
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I had many reservations
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as to the potential pitfalls
of being a sperm donor.
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Specifically, I was concerned
about my own future children
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and any interaction they would
unknowingly have with children
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produced in the program.
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-I'm not part of this
lawsuit at all.
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This is Bryce's lawsuit,
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and I wanted to be there
to support Bryce and --
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and let it be known that
we think that this is wrong.
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This shouldn't have
happened to him.
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And even though we're alive
and we are his children,
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we support him
taking action against
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what was done wrong to him.
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I don't feel that Dr. Cleary
signed up to be a father
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to all of these children,
so I'm definitely not looking
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for any sort of -- that
relationship from him,
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but I feel for him
significantly.
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-So, the way that sperm banks
work is that they
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recruit donors.
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They spend two or three months
screening them.
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They're asking them all kinds
of medical questions.
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They're running genetic tests.
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They're running all kinds
of medical tests.
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So there's a certain
amount of money
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that's put into approving a man
to be a sperm donor.
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And at the point
at which he's approved,
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then they will need to make
a certain amount of money back.
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And so they will ask donors
to donate at least
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once a week for an entire year.
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One donation could result
in anywhere between zero
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and up to eight or nine
vials of sperm
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that would then be later sold
to recipient clients.
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And so over the course
of that year,
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you build up dozens
and dozens of samples.
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The sperm banks ship them out
in their own local area,
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but also all over the country
and even all over the world.
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And they don't have any way
of making customers report back.
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So there is literally no way
of knowing for sure.
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And because sperm banks
aren't regulated in this area,
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you hear these reports
of people like Bryce
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who find out later on,
"Oh, um, it's not just five.
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It's 17."
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-Growing up, I had
two brothers and a sister.
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Two years ago, we found out
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that we have at least 17
half-siblings.
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My name is James Cleary,
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and I am Bryce Cleary's
second-born natural son.
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And I'm also a lawyer
on the team of lawyers
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that we have representing him
in this lawsuit.
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-Hi!
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-My dad got the e-mail
from Allysen,
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which really started
the ball rolling,
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and my dad requested
the information from OHSU
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on his donation --
"In a very general sense,
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just give me whatever
information you can."
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And they ignored his request.
No one ever got back to him.
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The lawsuit that we filed
is for $5.25 million.
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The nuts and bolts of our case
are you have a medical student
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that was brought in
to participate
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in a sperm-donation program
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and was lied to in order
to get him to participate.
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They took that material
and said,
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"We don't care what we told him.
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We're gonna use it for
whatever we want to use it for."
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He doesn't regret that any
of them are alive or born.
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It's just he feels
like he needed to step up
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and be a voice for change
in an industry
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that is really unregulated.
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I would say that in general,
you guys look more like my dad
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than me and my siblings,
which maybe my mom
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just has strong...
-Right.
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-...strong genes or something,
but it's a crazy small world.
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That's for sure.
Now it's even smaller.
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-And you're really learning
how small it really is.
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-That is for certain.
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-How does he feel about you
coming to meet us today?
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-He wants me to be a go-between
as much as possible.
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Even though on paper
there's no responsibilities,
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but there's definitely
a connection, right?
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And there's definitely
some emotions tied with that.
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He has four kids
and five stepkids
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and grandkids
and all this stuff.
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That part is kind of why
he's not trying to make contact
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and trying to find everybody
and do all this.
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It's not that
he doesn't want to.
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It's just that it's too --
too overwhelming.
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-Sperm banks will both rely
on customer reports --
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some customers do call back
and let them know.
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But they also have
sort of proprietary algorithms
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that they use
to try to figure out,
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"All right,
how many samples do we have?
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How many have we sold?
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What's the likelihood of people
getting pregnant?"
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The problem is --
is that there is no
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external oversight
on sperm banks.
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There is no federal agency
or professional organization
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that tracks
how many sperm donors
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there are in the United States,
how often they're donating,
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how often those donations
become children,
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and how many children
there are per donor.
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And so that's how you can end up
with one donor who has 15
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or even 50 or, in some cases,
we've even heard examples
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of 150 offspring out there.
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-We're talking about humans
making humans.
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There's no regulation and law
about making humans.
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That's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
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Guidelines are not significant
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when you're talking about
creating human life.
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-One of the biggest things
that weighs on everybody
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in this situation
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is the unknown
of how many are out there
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and how many there could be.
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So I think there needs
to be a way to know --
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for every single donor
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to know how many
and where they are.
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If there's no way
to record that,
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that seems like a good place
to start.
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-I had always intended
to donate,
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I think, just kind of
to give back.
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I knew -- I knew what I had
come from and my story
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and how I was conceived,
and I wanted to, you know,
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contribute or, you know,
hopefully help out
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some families if I could.
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I would say after
this came to light
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and after I found out
what the situation was
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and how the actual donations
are treated,
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I have no intentions
of donating anymore.
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-Those are good.
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-Would anyone else eat
the garlic green beans
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-Yes.
-...if I get them?
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-I still believe that there is
a place for sperm donation
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and egg donation,
that it helps a lot of people.
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I wouldn't be here
if it wasn't for that.
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But at the same time,
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there needs to be more
regulations put in place
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so that this doesn't happen
and you don't end up
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with a high concentration
of siblings
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not knowing in a small,
confined space.
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-So, somebody taught me
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that if you flip
a picture upside down,
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you look at that person for
features instead of their face
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'cause you can't
recognize their face.
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And so you put a grid
of all of us
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and you flip it upside down,
it's like...
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-It's like "The Brady Bunch"?
-Yeah.
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You know, just the cheeks,
the nose, the everything...
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-Really fucked up "Brady Bunch."
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-You would think
our generation's fine.
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We're probably not gonna
end up accidentally,
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you know, being with a sibling,
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but I would worry more
about our children.
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-My future children are gonna
have to get DNA tests
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to make sure that they're not
biologically related
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to the people they're dating.
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And that's just not something
they should have to do.
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-It's overwhelming to think
that this is constantly
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going to be going on,
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to think that we're always going
to be getting new siblings.
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But on the other hand, we get
these amazing relationships
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that come out of it,
so it's worth it, I feel like.
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The up and down.
[ Chuckles ]
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