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are looking at the North American trade
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the president last night touted the u.s.
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MCA and the end of NAFTA at his rally in
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Colorado last night look at this but
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under this administration all of that is
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changing the era of economic surrender
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is over thank you last month we ended
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the NAFTA catastrophe and I signed the
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brand-new US Mexico Canada agreement
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into law credible deal the u.s. MCA is a
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gigantic victory for farmers ranchers
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and manufacturers all across the great
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state of Colorado and every other state
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also you know something we got that
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people don't talk about joining me right
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now is the former prime minister of
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Canada a Prime Minister Stephen Harper
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mr. prime minister it's always a
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pleasure to see you nice to see you
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thanks so much for joining us so what
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has been the impact of the anticipation
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of us MC I mean the Canadians have
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agreed to it but are we gonna see
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passage I think you will eventually it's
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a you know it's it's it's rude a bit
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differently in Canada the the agreement
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was a great victory for the Trump
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administration for Canada you know
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frankly people call it NAFTA 0.5 we
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didn't really gain anything we gave up a
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couple of things it's but when the
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bottom line is it's still comprehensive
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you know tariff free access to the
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United States so it will pass eventually
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but we have a as you know we have a
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minority Parliament now so it's a
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difficult political situation
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yeah the politics getting in the way
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once again what about the politics
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around Huawei we've talked in the past
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about the threat coming from China and
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this administration has been very clear
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that Huawei infrastructure means back
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doors to all of our data back to the
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communist government but there's Huawei
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in Canada Huawei is a big commercial
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provider in Canada but let's be clear
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certainly when we were in government all
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of our national security experts agreed
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that deep penetration of Huawei into our
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systems into government systems into 5g
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networks would be an unequivocal threat
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to national security we have to
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understand why way is not a normal
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private company it is an extension of
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the Chinese surveillance state and
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you know there there have to be limits
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any Western society that allows Huawei
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to go beyond certain limits that
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endanger national security is being
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extremely unwise so I hope that
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ultimately our government will figure
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that out so how come you know what's
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what's with Canada having all of this
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Huawei commercial providers you know so
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permeating throughout the country and
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what's with Europe that they've got this
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infrastructure of Huawei as well do our
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friends across the world not see foie
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way the same way as though as the US
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does views differ country to country I
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think one of the challenges that Huawei
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has good products and is a low-cost
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provider partly because the government
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subsidization and also murray i think
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the other thing is partly because the
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supply chain there's not a kind of
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complete western supply chain in this
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space and I do think ultimately that the
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government of the United States is going
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to have to work with allies to make sure
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that there are Western providers of all
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of these of all this equipment services
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otherwise the pull towards Huawei will
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get stronger and stronger this is a
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really important point and it is a very
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significant threat it will keep
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following that another threat is Iran
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the orders are headed to the polls today
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in Iran the contest scene is a test for
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president Hassan rouhani's popularity
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amid this escalating political and
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economic tension throughout the country
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your reaction to that and what should be
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done in terms of the threat from Iran
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sir well let's be very clear about what
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these elections do and don't mean you
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will see in all kinds of other media
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let's this assertion that this is
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somehow a battle between reformers and
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hardliners they're all hardliners you
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can't unless you support the
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dictatorship of the Ayatollah you cannot
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be a candidate in these elections so
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really the only tests here how many
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turnout and is there really support for
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the regime but there is no doubt that
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the maximum pressure policies of the
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Trump administration combined with some
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of its recent actions are putting Iran
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more and more in a corner and you know
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look I think they deserve congratulation
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for that and here to Europe is waffling
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once again we've got you know the
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Europeans buying or wanting to buy oil
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and gas
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from Iran you've got Chinese buying oil
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and gas from from Iran
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I think 70% of the exports out of Iran
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are going to China we've got this
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partnership with China and the u.s. is
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putting sanctions on anybody who does
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business with Iran and they're doing it
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no problem it's it's all extremely
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short-sighted on on the part of all of
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these powers the single most dangerous
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threat the world faces today is the
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Iranian regime getting nuclear weapons
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and frankly the entire world should be
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working with the Trump administration to
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bring as much pressure as is necessary
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to prevent that from happening yeah you
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would think what what are the threats
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that we need to be aware of today we
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just talked about China Iran but from a
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country level what what do you see as
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the most important issues not just the
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US but Canada I think the single looked
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a single most important threat in the
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world today is nuclear proliferation and
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the single most dangerous place in the
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world for potentially having nuclear
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weapons is he's not North Korea and my
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judgment North Korea is serious but it
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is Iran and it is Iran because you have
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you would have for the first time a you
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know frankly a theocratic regime that
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might not be afraid to use nuclear
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weapons I mean the you know there is
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people in that regime believe if they
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start a nuclear war Allah will come to
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their defense and this would be the
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first time in history you would have a
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government in possession of nuclear
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weapons for the purpose of using nuclear
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weapons and that is something the world
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cannot contemplate and and frankly the
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jcpoa the previous agreement if you look
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at its provisions it was a roadmap for
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Iran to have nuclear weapons in 10 years
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so administration was right to get out
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with that but obviously there needs to
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be a concerted strategy to really
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prevent this from happening unbelievable
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the president also released a Middle
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East peace plan
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recognizing Israeli settlements in the
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West Bank six years after
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israeli-palestinian talks collapsed in
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2014 you reacted to that this is this is
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Maria this is inseparable from the
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Iranian issue what the administration
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has really done there is brought
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together Israelis and many of the Arab
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states in a coalition and what they're
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really saying is to the Palestinians you
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know stop your intransigence go to the
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bargaining table because frankly we have
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a bigger problem too
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which is Iran and you know this is
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really now the ball is in the
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Palestinians courts the air the Arabs
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have been clear you know basically this
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is what it's going to look like unless
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the Palestinians engage so it's up to
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them in the meantime
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Israel the Arab states are going to
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continue to work with the US
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administration on fighting the Iranian
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threat so many important issues Stephen
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in terms of you know China and the
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threats there in terms of terrorism and
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the and the very dangerous situation
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happening in Iran and and it's proxies
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as well
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and yet we see politics getting in the
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way I mean this administration has been
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talking about all of these threats but
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the Congress has this resist movement on
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is that the same thing that you see in
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Canada right now where as you can't get
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anything done because of politics well
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it's it's a little bit of a different
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situation you know I my party's in
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opposition it's a minority government I
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wouldn't say they're resistance the
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government is just politics fact in the
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matter is government's pursuing a series
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of economic policies that are not good
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for the country so in a parliamentary
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system unlike your system in a
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parliamentary system all of these votes
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end up being confidence measures so you
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know an opposition asks the way on the
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one hand do we want to support the
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government maybe a good individual
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action but if we support the government
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we keep it in office so what's the
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better choice and you know that's the
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that's a very different calculus in a
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parliamentary system here in the United
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States there's you know Congress can
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Congress should be deciding these cases
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on their merits because the
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administration is gonna stay in office
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one way or the other until the election
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yeah and yet you've got real fights
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going on in terms of policy and in terms
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of very simple things like making sure
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that people understand the China threat
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making sure that people understand the
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Iran Threat and yet you've got this
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resist movement here that they will for
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whatever reason they don't like
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President Trump so they resist yeah I
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think you know you've obviously got a
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dynamic here you know this is my
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observation as a as a foreigner that the
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opposition to President Trump is so
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intense and so personal that the
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opponents are completely blinded as to
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what it is he is not is or is not doing
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to the point where
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you know they're prepared to virtually
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side with the Iranians on some of these
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issues rather than support the
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administration this is really crazy but
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I think Maria might my observation is
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this is why president Trump's
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possibility of reelection keeps rising
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and and under your leadership in Canada
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you had real economic growth we're
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looking at real economic growth here as
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well and yet a big portion of the
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country are saying oh well maybe we'll
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try Bernie Sanders out and socialism
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reforms yeah it mean it's it's actually
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incredible I I find this you know as
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somebody who's old enough to have lived
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through the Cold War I find that
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somebody would person would propose
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socialism as an economic model today I
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mean it has literally failed in every
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single country it's been tried we look
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at China governed by the Communist Party
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but no longer according to a communist
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economic model even they gave it up and
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yet you have someone in the most
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advanced country in the world undergoing
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an economic boom proposing it and he's
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leading the race for the party
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but I think that's a testament to degree
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to which the Democratic Party is out of
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touch by the way before you go do you
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think President Xi Jinping's tenure
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could be challenged as a result of all
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of these things coming at him
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coronavirus the Hong Kong protesters or
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dictator for life is dictator for life
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he's he's in a pretty powerful position
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but I think what this tells you if you
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look at the coronavirus issue what's the
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first instinct the first instinct is to
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cover it up and deny it exist so
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although everybody who says what a
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brilliant system of political
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decision-making need to remember this is
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how dictatorships actually function they
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tried to deny problems and they try to
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cover up errors and we make lots of
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mistakes and democracies but democratic
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systems tend to be self-correcting and
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by the way in doing so accelerated the
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problem more people got the
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coronaviruses note of the cover up Prime
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Minister Harper it's good to see you
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nice to see thanks so much Steven Hart
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