BlockFi vs Celsius 💰 Is It Worth The Risk? - YouTube

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Welcome back to another comparison, where I will be comparing the two most popular crypto
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lending platforms Blockfi vs Celsius Network.
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In this video, we will be covering the potential returns from your interest crypto account
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but we will also dive deeper into the risks which you should consider when lending your
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crypto to others via centralized crypto lending platforms.
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By the end of this video, you will be able to evaluate for yourself which crypto lending
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platform is the better fit for you.
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So let’s get right to it as we have a lot to cover today.
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As always, if you are new to this channel and your goal is to become a more educated
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P2P investor, consider subscribing and hit the like button to see more content like this
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in the future.
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Both companies BlockFi and Celsius were founded in 2017.
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The US-based BlockFi was co-founded by Zac Prince who has previous experience in sales
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as well as in the lending business.
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The UK-based Celsius platform was co-founded by Alex Mashinsky who is a serial entrepreneur.
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In this comparison, we won’t be going deeper into the experience of founders.
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Both CEOs give regular interviews and Alex participates in a monthly AMA session where
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he answers all of the questions Celsius users might have.
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If you are considering Celsius, I recommend watching all of the talks to get an idea about
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how the platform works.
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Both companies have raised a significant amount of money to support their growth.
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When it comes to the financials, Celsius made a loss of $34 M last year.
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Unfortunately, I couldn’t get my hands on the financial report from BlockFi.
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Some sources claim that the company is profitable but I couldn’t verify this information myself.
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Currently, both platforms manage around $10 B in assets.
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Celsius claims to have 531,000 users whereas BlockFi has just about 125,000 active users.
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So that’s been some basic information.
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Now let’s talk a bit about the products that both crypto lending platforms offer.
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BlockFi and Celsius let you earn interest on your cryptocurrencies.
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You simply deposit your crypto and choose in which currency you want to earn interest.
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The promised return depends on your cryptocurrency.
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Some currencies offer an APY of 3% others up to 15%.
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There are no minimum investment amounts so you can start investing with very little crypto
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to get a feeling of how the platform works.
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BlockFi offers you a desktop version as well as a mobile app, while Celsius is currently
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available only as a mobile application, although they claim to work on a desktop interface
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as well.
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So, here are the interest rates offered by BlockFi.
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As you can see the interest rate for Bitcoin depends on the number of your bitcoins.
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You can earn between 3% and 6%.
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For Ethereum you can expect to get 5.25% and for Litecoin 6.5% per year.
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The rates on BlockFi don’t change as frequently and the interest is being repaid on monthly
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basis in the cryptocurrency which you are selecting.
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So for instance, if you deposit Bitcoin, you can choose to receive interest in Bitcoin,
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Ethereum or Gemini USD.
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That’s quite useful if you want to bring more stability and lower the “currency”
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risk which is caused by the volatility in the crypto market.
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Stablecoins like the Gemini USD are backed by the US dollar which is in relation to many
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cryptocurrencies a stable asset.
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On Celsius, you have a much broader choice of assets.
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Whereas BlockFi offers you to earn interest only on 11 cryptocurrencies, Celsius offers
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you up to 30 cryptocurrencies.
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What’s different about Celsius is that they have their own utility token which allows
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you to earn higher interest rates on your crypto.
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To get your interest boost, you have to hold a certain percentage of your portfolio in
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the CEL token.
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In addition to that, you can also choose to earn CEL tokens as interest payments.
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This could be useful, as the value of the CEL token has increased significantly over
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the past few months.
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You can also trade this token on the Bitfinex exchange if you want to convert it into a
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different currency.
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What’s worth mentioning is also that the interest on Celsius network is being repaid
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on a weekly basis.
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What you should know though is that Celsius changes the rates weekly depending on the
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market conditions and the demand for loans.
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Both platforms BlockFi and Celsius don’t charge any direct fees to deposit your crypto
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on the platform, there are, however, other fees that you should be aware of.
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So first, if you want to buy crypto with fiat, you have to pay the exchange fee, which is
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usually charged by the exchange on which you are making the purchase.
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Both platforms offer you to either deposit your crypto to your dedicated wallets or to
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buy crypto directly from the platform.
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BlockFi allows you to exchange USD in USD as a stablecoin through a wire transfer.
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This is more suitable for US-based users as European banks typically don’t support this
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transfer method.
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We haven’t found any listed fee for this service.
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The fees will be likely charged by your bank.
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On Celsius, you can either buy crypto directly from the app with a credit card for a fee
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of up to 4.1% or you can do a bank transfer with lower fees between 0.1% and 0-5%.
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Buying crypto through a bank transfer can take between 3 and 5 days.
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Now, if you send your crypto from exchange to Celsius you will be likely charged a withdrawal
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fee, which you can find on your preferred exchange.
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In addition to that, you will be paying a transaction fee.
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So for instance, if you transfer Ethereum or stablecoins which run on the Ethereum network,
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you will be paying a so-called “gas fee” which can be quite high when the demand for
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transactions is high.
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Actually, we have recently got an email from our viewer, who exchanged €1000 into USDT
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for which he paid €8.43.
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Then he transferred the crypto to a crypto lending site for which he paid €42.11 transaction
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fee.
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That’s basically €50 in fees just to deposit your crypto.
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With the current market conditions, you can expect the same fee when withdrawing your
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cryptos.
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Now, Celsius offers an interest of 10.5% for USDT at the moment.
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This means that on €950 worth of crypto, you will get €104 worth of crypto in one
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year.
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That would cover the deposit and withdrawal of your crypto on a crypto lending platform
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in case that the value of your coin remains the same.
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This is something that you should keep in mind as this isn’t obviously advertised
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by the platforms themselves.
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If you plan to deposit lower amounts for a shorter period of time, it doesn’t make
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sense as your interest won’t even cover the fees.
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Unless you expect the value of the cryptocurrency to skyrocket.
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In that case, you won’t care too much about the fees.
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As you know, crypto is a volatile asset and it can go really well but it can also end
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up bad if the value of the crypto asset plummets.
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In addition to the earlier mentioned fees, you should also look up the withdrawal fees
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of the two platforms.
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Blockfi offers you one free withdrawal on your crypto and stablecoin per month.
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Celsius doesn’t charge any withdrawal fees.
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After your free withdrawal on Blockfi, you will be charged 0.00075 BTC which equals 34€
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or 40USD at the moment.
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Now you should have a good idea about the returns from your deposited cryptocurrencies.
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Both platforms, however, also offer you to borrow cash with low-interest rates in exchange
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for your crypto as collateral.
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BlockFi actually offers its loans only to US citizens and Celsius offers their loans
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to everyone except borrowers from the US.
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On Celsius, you can also borrow crypto, whereas on BlockFi you can only borrow USD.
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The minimum loan amount on BlockFi is $5000 for a period of 12 months.
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On Celsius you can borrow from $500 with a minimum loan term of 6 months.
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The cost of borrowing depends on the loan to value.
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You need to deposit at least twice as much value of your crypto for the amount of money
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you want to borrow.
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The lower the loan to value ratio the lower the interest rate.
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The APR on Blockfi varies between 4.75% and 9.75% at the moment.
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There is also an origination fee of 2%.
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On Celsius the rates start at 0.75% APR and can go as high as 8.75% APR.
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If you chose to pay back in CEL token, you will get even better rates.
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In addition to that Celsius doesn’t charge any origination fee which makes the borrowing
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much cheaper.
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Besides lending and borrowing, BlockFi offers also a trading feature, which I wouldn’t
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recommend as the spread between the actual rates is quite significant.
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On Celsius you can also transfer crypto from one user to another which is a neat feature
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if you want to send crypto to your friends that also use Celsius.
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In terms of new products, BlockFi will be launching a bitcoin rewards credit card soon,
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whereas Celsius will be introducing a self-insurance feature in the near future.
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Now, you might be wondering how do BlockFi and Celsius make money?
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Well, they earn money from the spread between the APR that the borrower is paying and the
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interest which is being paid out to the depositors.
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BlockFi makes additional revenue from withdrawal fees, origination fees, and the spread from
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their trading tool.
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Unfortunately, none of the crypto lending platforms are very transparent in this area.
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If you try to calculate the margins yourself, you will likely conclude that it doesn’t
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make that much sense.
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Our guess is that platforms can only become profitable through large volumes.
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Until then they will make a loss, which you can also see for yourself on the financial
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reports from Celsius, which I will link for you in the description below.
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Many of the investors might find this concerning.
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On the other hand, both companies managed to attract venture capital investors which
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decreases the likelihood of an exit scam in the future.
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In addition to that, both platforms are regulated by the SEC in the US and Celsius is also aiming
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to become regulated by the FCA in the UK.
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Before we wrap up this comparison, we should certainly talk about the safety features that
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both platforms offer.
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So first of all, BlockFi uses Gemini, BitGo and Coinbase as their custodian.
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Gemini offers insurance of up to 200$ million which by the way covers also their hot wallets.
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Celsius uses Fireblocks and PrimeTrust which offer insurance of up to $30 million.
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None of the cryptocurrency is covered by the FDIC insurance nor any other protection scheme
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which is used by banks.
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Any offered insurance is not of much value to you since you are lending your coins to
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borrowers.
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Your coins are therefore backed by the collateral which the borrower deposits.
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All loans are overcollateralized and if the value of the cryptocurrency plummets, the
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borrower will need to deposit more crypto otherwise the collateral will be liquidated,
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and your investment repaid.
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What you should be aware though is that as soon as you deposit your crypto on any of
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the two crypto lending platforms the digital asset is replaced with an obligation to return
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the same amount of the crypto plus any interest earned.
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We call this state an IOU which stands for I owe you.
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The platform basically takes your crypto and replaces it with a promise to return it.
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You are no longer the owner of your crypto anymore as you don’t hold the private keys.
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You might be familiar with the phrase “ not your keys, not your coin”.
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You are basically trusting the crypto lending platform, or any crypto exchange for that
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matter, that they won’t freeze your account or that they won’t lose your coins.
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You might not care about it if your crypto is worth 1,000$ but what if the value rises
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to 100,000$?
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Are you still going to be comfortable with a simple promise to get your money back if
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you need it for a lousy 3% to 6% interest rate per year?
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That’s a question you should ask yourself before starting lending crypto to others.
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Blockfi has been actually hacked in the past, and hackers were able to obtain personal information
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such as email addresses, postal addresses, birthdates, and the activity history of half
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of BlockFi’s users.
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Luckily none of the depositors lost any funds during this attack, but this is a threat that
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you should consider and some of the investors on crypto exchanges have lost funds due to
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attacks on crypto platforms in the past.
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While both BlockFi and Celsius offer certain security measures such as a 2-factor authentication,
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biometric scans, or whitelisted wallet addresses, there is always the risk of an attack on the
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platform, the counterparty risk as well as the risk that the currency in which you are
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lending will lose its value.
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The best way to store your crypto is to store it on your hardware wallet and own your private
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keys.
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The idea of crypto is to have full control over your assets and not to rely on other
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organizations which give you a promise of returning your capital if needed.
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If you are someone who supports this idea, you will likely not want to have your crypto
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stored on any exchange or on a crypto lending platform as you aren’t technically the owner
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of your coin.
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From a borrower point of view, the idea of crypto-backed loans is brilliant, you don’t
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need to sell your assets and pay income tax or tax from capital gains, instead, you can
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use it as collateral and borrow money for attractive rates super fast without any annoying
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questions and lengthy approval procedures.
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On the other hand, the platform is in charge of your crypto assets and can liquidate them
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when the value of your collateral drops which won’t make you happy.
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From an investor’s point of view, it looks promising to earn interest on your cryptos,
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especially if the loans are secured by collateral.
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The biggest benefit is likely the fact that this type of investment is highly accessible.
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You can literally invest from anywhere in the world.
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If you do believe, however, that the value of your bitcoin is going to increase by let’s
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say 100% over the next 12 months, why take the risk and lend your coins in exchange for
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a promise to earn an additional 3% on it?
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That’s something you should certainly consider before even thinking about lending your crypto
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on BlockFi or Celsius.
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Now, if you are ok with this, the choice to invest on either BlockFi or Celsius really
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depends on how you are going to use the platform.
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If you are from the U.S. and you want to lend crypto as well as borrow fiat, BlockFi is
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going to be the clear choice for you as Celsius doesn’t allow US citizens to borrow money.
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If you don’t plan to be borrowing but only depositing and hodling your crypto, Celsius
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seems to be a better fit.
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They offer slightly better rates, lower fees and the utility of their token offers many
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additional benefits.
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While I am typically not a fan of tokens where you don’t need them, Celsius did implement
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them in a very clever way which is rather rare in the crypto space.
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You can also benefit from the increase of the value of CEL tokens and trade the coin
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on BitFinex if that’s something you wanna go for.
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Alright, so that’s been our comparison between BlockFi and Celsius.
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Unlike many other crypto lending platforms, I do believe that BlockFi and Celsius are
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legitimate businesses.
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If you decide that you want to participate in crypto lending and that the offered interest
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is worth it for you, you can use our referral links in the description and get yourself
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a small bonus.
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You can get up to 10$ in Bitcoin on BlockFi and up to 30$ in DAI when depositing crypto
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on Celsius.
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If you decide that crypto lending isn’t worth it for you but you still want to support
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our project, you can also invite us for a coffee and let us know what topic you want
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me to cover next.
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You will find all the relevant links in the description of this video.
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Either way, I am quite curious to hear your opinion.
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Do you believe that crypto lending pays off?
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Let me know your thoughts in the comments below.
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And on this note, thanks for watching and I will catch you in the next one.