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bill gates co-founded microsoft nearly
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50 years ago at the forefront of the
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computer age that changed the world and
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since then he's been using the fortune
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that earned him to change the world the
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gates foundation giving away tens of
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billions of dollars over the past decade
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he also famously predicted the world was
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unprepared for a pandemic in a 2015 ted
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talk that was unfortunately accurate and
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has been viewed now 43 million times
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well he's sounding the alarm again this
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morning his new book how to prevent the
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next pandemic
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is out today it's also been a year of
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upheaval in his own life after he and
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melinda his wife of 27 years announced
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their divorce one year ago today so bill
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we have so much to catch up on it's good
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to see you good morning good to see you
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well i think this is the definition of
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what they call a hard sell you're out
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here promoting a book how to prevent the
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next pandemic and you know people are
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sick and tired of hearing about the
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pandemic they have covid fatigue why is
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this the moment to have this
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conversation
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well i don't want us to wait uh until we
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forget about how awful this has been i
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mean we've had tens of millions of
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deaths you know trillions of dollars of
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economic loss
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education loss mental depression
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uh and with a few key steps we can make
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sure this won't happen again there's
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something strangely optimistic about
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this book you've got a whole bunch of
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ideas on how to actually prevent the
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next pandemic one idea you compare it to
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firefighters we need kind of a global
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firefighting team that's ready to
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find the next pandemic and respond to it
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how would it work
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well in firefighting we're all trained
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to know that you know there's the exit
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the us alone has over 300 000 full-time
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firefighters so we take it seriously
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because if one house burns down it can
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uh you know affect an entire community
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pandemics are even worse and we didn't
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practice we weren't ready to go a few
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countries that were more ready
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like australia have 10 percent the
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deaths that we have so
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uh the debate about exactly how to
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invest in that preparedness now is the
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right time even though we're still
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trying to get out of this one yeah
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you've argued that basically pandemics
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um
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disease is inevitable but pandemics are
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not and if you spend billions now you
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save trillions later is that a pretty
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good summary of the book yep tell me a
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big return tell me about um
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you have this germ team that you propose
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we have the world health organization
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why isn't that enough well they're not
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funded actually uh to go to countries
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and practice they're not funded to fly
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in where there's an outbreak so they
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need about a billion a year 3 000 more
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people
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that would stay dedicated to pandemics
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you know pandemics don't come very often
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so it's easy to to take your personnel
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and go work on other things and here
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we'd make sure that this team had those
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skills and was always practicing by the
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way in some ways we were lucky with this
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pandemic it certainly could have been a
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more contagious virus and it could could
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have been more lethal
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yeah the lethality uh you know ends up
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being about 0.3 percent uh smallpox is
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30 percent so
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this is not the worst case all the more
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reason
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to make these investments in
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preparedness when you look at how the
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u.s and the world responded to covet 19.
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whether it's masks or vaccines or
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shutdowns closures it's become so
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political i wonder if if it happened
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again if it was march 2020 all over
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again with covet 19 would we even be
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able to mount as effective a response as
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we did last time around it's been so
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politicized yeah it's unfortunate that
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uh
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we didn't get trusted voices in both
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parties talking about the benefit of
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masks and vaccines
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so that it wasn't a political issue i
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think everybody does support the health
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workers who are heroes
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i think they support the innovation
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where we got the vaccine out faster
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than ever before and that has saved
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millions of lives even that vaccine we
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can make a better one where you never
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get infected uh
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so
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you know innovation uh like in many
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areas is where i see a potential for a
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consensus and for avoiding most of the
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damage yeah the book if you want to geek
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out on some of the innovations and where
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the technology is a vaccine you can
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inhale a pan vaccine it's in there but
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let's talk about misinformation because
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that has been a hallmark unfortunately
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of this pandemic president biden rather
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famously said last july that
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misinformation on social media is
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killing people do you agree absolutely
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uh it's been weird that you know
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vaccines have been attacked as you know
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being overall that negative or there's
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some conspiracy here it's terrible well
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some of it affects you you're part of
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these conspiracy theories that is a very
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weird thing that just because i support
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vaccines save millions of lives people
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are saying no i you know i make money
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from vaccines or that i'm trying to you
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know cause death or track or
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uh a lot of strange stuff
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hard to understand why that is well you
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know misinformation is obviously a big
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issue that a lot of folks like you are
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worried about
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elon musk just recently announced moves
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to acquire twitter i wonder if you are
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concerned about the proliferation of
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misinformation given some of his views
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about
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expanding what he refers to as free
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speech on twitter and what you think of
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the acquisition
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well the digital realm has facilitated
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you know kind of
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interesting but wrong ideas spreading
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very quickly and we need to innovate so
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that digital realm is more of a positive
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thing of getting the truth out and that
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people are seeing hey this is false do
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you worry about elon musk well elon
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you wouldn't want to underestimate elon
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what he did at tesla is amazing helping
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with climate change what he did at
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spacex uh you know will he this time
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make that improvement you know should
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there be laws that strike a better
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balance of uh free speech versus you
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know conspiracy theories confusing
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people um
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you know elon thinks he can improve
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twitter well
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i don't i don't know specifically what
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it'll do but uh
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you know it it
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it is there's an opportunity and we need
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innovation in that space well let's talk
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about you personally it's been a period
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of transition it was actually one year
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ago today that you and your wife melinda
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filed for divorce how have you been
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coming to terms with this
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well the divorce is definitely a sad
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thing uh
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you know i
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have responsibility for
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causing a lot of pain to my family
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um
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you know it was a tough year i feel good
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that uh
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all of us are moving forward now you
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know my oldest got married uh melinda
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and i are you know continuing to work
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together so
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um
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you know it was sad and tragic but uh
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you know now we're
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we're
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moving together yeah she did an
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interview recently and she talked about
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times in her marriage she said she was
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lying on the floor
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crying
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um what was it like for you to hear that
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and to hear it publicly
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well
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this was a
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a very tough thing we had
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a lot of amazing things in our marriage
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the kids the foundation uh the enjoyment
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we had uh
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and so it's a very hard adjustment uh
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you know i know divorces are different
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but uh you know just a complete change
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you know we were partners we kind of
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grew up together um and now that
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that's different we're not married
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frankly there were allegations of
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extramarital affairs and when she was
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asked about that in the interview she
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said that is a question that bill needs
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to answer
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so here you are now did that happen were
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you unfaithful in your marriage is that
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one of the reasons there was a divorce i
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certainly made mistakes and i i take
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responsibility i don't think delving
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into the particulars at this point is is
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constructive but yes
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uh i
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um
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caused pain
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and i i feel terrible about that
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what have you learned from that i mean
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you were someone who has this voracious
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appetite for knowledge and divorce is an
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experience that can be a journey to
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learning something about yourself and
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change hopefully what have you learned
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about yourself
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you know
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there's areas like
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climate or you know health where i i
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have expertise and on personal matters
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like this i
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i'm
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you know i
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i don't think of myself as an expert i
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uh should be very humble about
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you know success uh
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you know has a a tricky aspect to it um
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so
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you know i don't i don't have great
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advice for other people yeah um i have
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to ask you about jeffrey epstein
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melinda mentioned that that was one of
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the strains your relationship with him
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and um you know what i guess the
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question is real simple i mean why did
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you continue to meet with him when you
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met him he was already a convicted sex
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offender um
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you know and do you regret that
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i certainly
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made a huge mistake uh not only meet him
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in the first place but
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i met with him a number of times
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i had a goal of raising money for global
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health i didn't realize that in a
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meeting with him
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almost downplayed
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the incredibly awful things he did you
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know i learned more about that over time
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but uh you know i'd add that to the list
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of big mistakes including you know where
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melinda's advice was sound and i i
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should have followed it sooner than i
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did and you never saw anything where you
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thought
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this doesn't feel right linda kind of
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had a visceral reaction the first time
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she met him
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no he was a
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a bad person uh
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and
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you know
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i had a reason that i thought those
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meetings would lead to something good
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but uh i shouldn't have done them and
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finally on this topic you recently gave
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an interview you said you'd marry
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melinda all over again um she says you
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guys are friendly um
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not necessarily friends but friendly how
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do you see the relationship moving
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forward well one of the things
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we built together is the gates
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foundation and we love that work
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uh you know we've got all the resources
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i was lucky enough to get we've got
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warren buffett uh committed uh massive
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resources and so making sure that is
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spent well saves lives melinda and i
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love doing that work together so i feel
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very lucky that i i still have that with
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her as well as you know we've got these
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three incredible kids i know and i heard
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they're all moving out of the house so
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you're you're an empty nester for sure
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now i've got a big empty nest
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all right bill thank you so much thanks
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for being with us and again the book is
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