WHAT IS COMPERSION? | The Sex Talk with Mou (Moushumi Ghose) and Jenoa - YouTube

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the sex talk
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Hi, hi. I'm Jenna one mo welcome to the sex talk here
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live from Brooklyn, New York
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Today, we're going to talk about a new word. That's not even in the traditional dictionary yet
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It is on Wikipedia and it's on Urban dictionary and the word is
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compassion or
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Compassion we don't know I was helping it come persons everywhere. We don't outside
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I'm not sure but I think I've heard it say they called conversion. I think so, too
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That's right, but I'd want a through sure either. So maybe it's still being decided
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Right so what is compression?
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compression um
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so my understanding of the word
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And you probably know maybe something different, or maybe the same thing its
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Conversion is when you can feel happy for your partner who is feeling happy
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And their happiness is caused by something outside of the relationship
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Yeah, and typically. I think that it means it's because they're with another person
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Sexually fulfils of some of its not sexually fulfilled or like emotionally in some way fulfilled sometimes as well
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You can [have] conversion of your [partner's] to skip an example came home said oh my God
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I just had the most amazing experience with this girl
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It was incredible and then you would be
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You know you might have two choices. Let's say your three choices first choices
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No, you this is there a little no no. I'm not okay with this way second choice would be
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compression which is I
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Am so happy for you you must be so exciting. We've have that feeling yeah that family right
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It's so cool that you feel like that. I'm now clear that I had nothing to do with me in our relationship
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Yeah, and I'm okay with that, and I'm really glad that you got to experience. They look great. Yeah
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And the reason I like number two, and I know what you're going to say number
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three is but the reason I like number two is because
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If you're do treating your partner, who's your best friend as your best friend?
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Yeah, like when your best friend calls you up and says oh my God
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I just met someone and I think she's the person of my dreams she's amazing
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She makes me feel [really] good you feel really good for your best friend
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It's almost that same thing
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Where you you would treat your best friend like you're really true, best friend you you don't get jealous
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you don't take it personally that they had a fun time with somebody else, you're
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Excited to them, and there's a certain level of boundary there that you want them to be happy in all areas of their lives
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Right yeah, so with conversion the idea is that you would feel those things for someone who is your partner to yeah?
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Yeah, so the third option is and it's very real and conversion that I don't hear people talking about so much as even
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Within the reality of feeling conversion you can also feel jealous at the same time so 3 is basically all be about right?
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Yeah, so go feed on jealousy
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Version, and I actually like this too because if you're feeling just hey
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Which is just jealousy you're more likely to backlash and treat your partner really poorly
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But if you are feeling both and acknowledge that you're feeling both like oh, right?
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Which is fair you know there's part of me that feels really jealous or feels really threatened
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And secure, but I'm also really happy for this person
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You're more likely to to see the light so to speak right and then here's the thing that
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Part of the ways to go through these
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Situations is to be honest about them, and so hopefully within your relationship
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You're going to have a space
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for you to hold all of those things hold your joy for them hold your feeling insecure hold and like have that conversation and
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It's it's a conversation. It's just real life stuff and guys are feelings that people have yeah, but I feel like
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It's important to address some of the things that we might do hMM if we get jealous
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You [know] we've talked about some of those things like the silent treatment or going out and doing something
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To make yourself feel better than [to] actually hurt your partner
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Well first of all I think that the very base of that is blaming the other person for your feelings
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right the first first of all if you have jealousy
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recognizing that oh
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This is my feeling that originates from me and not your fault if they are
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You know operating within the bounds of the relationship. There's no blame
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It was just you know we have this agreement, and you're still in you didn't break our agreement
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Right and I expect to feel this way I feel jealous. That's still your responsibility
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So well it's still your nobody can be
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Responsible for your feeling right you know yes, they can change their behaviors so that you won't feel that way
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But it won't change the fact that you feel that way you know if they go outside of the relationship
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Or if they or you know with the certain someone else and it could be anybody or it could be someone specific
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But that feeling is yours right until it's I'm going to be honest when you're triggered like that because these these
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feelings of jealousy can be me feel really unsafe and really like
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Teed up and freaked out
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It's easy to lash out when you feel triggered because it's almost like you're in a haze
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And you're not thinking clearly, and you're you know so it's important [to] be
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Calm and centered and really be in the moment. They are in recognizing. Yeah, and not watch out. Yeah
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We did an episode on Jealousy and not monogamy and in that episode. We do talk about the fact that and
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You should just click on it. The link is here
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How you you can feel jealous?
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But it's not necessarily always something that you need to bring up with your partner
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That's right um that's right, and it's recognizing if the jealousy is is
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This something that happens a lot in your relationship
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If so, then yes, maybe something that you discuss with your partner
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What is happening over and over?
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It's causing you to feel insecure in your relationship it might not be the kind of break kind of relationship for you. I?
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Mean maybe it's just not your cup of tea not everybody wants to
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experience this low-rent jealousy right and if you're constantly feeling jealous and banging your head up against the wall because it's not getting better and
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You know you're trying to be open-minded everything that they do
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Continues to be feel like that for you. That's not a good place to be that might not be your best place yeah, and
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Figuring out that would be your number one objective at that time like is this really the best kind of relationship for me?
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Yeah
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Because jealousy a lot of times in my experience happens when you're not getting
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Something from the relationship so in a conversion situation your partner goes out those really happy
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experiences joy, there's often a
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Like a side effect to that to the relationship also like sure experiencing joy
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And you know a happy partner means a happy relationship that whole concept and so they come home
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And they're that much more present that much more available
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[um] so
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then you might actually get that need met or sure so you're already comfortable and stable in the relationship and
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So that makes you feel [that] much more happy for your partner when they go outside and come back, right?
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so having a good clear communication and stable relationship to begin with
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Would really help you navigate these moments because you have a space level of trust you have the trust that
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Person is not breaking agreements
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you have the trust that they care about your feelings and aren't doing things purposely to hurt you and you have the open lines of
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communication
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Made for these types of relationships those things are going to make it
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1,000 times easier to navigate the families of Jealousy, right?
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But I think the point is is that Jealousy does not necessarily mean that oh
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we can't absolutely can't feel conversion because the two can exist right silence and also jealousy does not mean that you need to change your
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Agreements, it doesn't mean that somebody did something wrong
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It doesn't mean that somebody shouldn't be doing the things they're doing because it looked even in monogamous relationships
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There's jealousy I felt like pains of Jealousy because Jealousy doesn't go away
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Just because you have a relationship monogamous monogamous is
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Um it's like this fake
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Sense of security I would say false what?
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also
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fake both
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But yeah, and and just because you're in a monogamous relationship
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It doesn't mean doesn't mean your partner's doesn't think about other people or doesn't stray
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emotionally yeah, and not necessarily, physically because people cheat and we know that [people] cheat, so
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yeah, it's important to I think if
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You know your view or your partner?
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Have any ideas or you know harbor any fantasies about?
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Other people you know have a conversation about it the best place to start yeah
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I inputs a great place to start which is like let's be honest. Who are you really attracted to?
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Yeah, and it might be good just to get real about that it might be [able] to get real it
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You know what your partner actually?
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Didn't stop being a sexual being because you guys [got] together right right and there because you've been together 20 years
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And you don't have sex anywhere guess what there was a huge chance of your partner's still very sexual yeah, yeah
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If you know going outside of the relationship might help awaken that and it could potentially live with your relationship up
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Yeah, we're going to do another episode about
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What are we gonna call it at?
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relationships with agreements and
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We're so options for long-term relationships where the sex has down
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Maybe where you can you can still become you don't really consider yourself monogamous, but maybe have a little tweak yeah in your
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Relationship yep, you're a relationship your rules. Yeah, you need to make up the rules so click [on] a few other episodes
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And you'll find it down in there somewhere. Yeah, yeah
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But we're also going to do another episode how to get started if you really want to have a non monogamous relationship
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And you're been in a monogamous relationship for a long time you have no idea how to get started mmM?
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I love coming up next yeah. Look around click around enjoy everything leave comments talk to us
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