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Legal Smackdown!: Watch Giuliani Complain After Law License Suspended For Election Lies - YouTube
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the former president's lawyer can no
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longer practice law
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really giuliani today having his new
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york law license suspended
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a court statement with a blistering
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rebuke of giuliani saying he
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quote communicated demonstrably false
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and misleading statements
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in his capacity as lawyer for former
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president donald trump unquote
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goes on to say his bolstering of the
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false narrative that the 2020 election
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was stolen due to widespread voter fraud
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immediately threatens the public
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interest giuliani calling his suspension
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baseless these judges
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take action without giving me a hearing
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they listen to the false
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allegations that are made by the
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democrats
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and disregard the other side same thing
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they did the president trump
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they're basing it on the new york times
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the washington post cnn
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msnbc
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the scathing 33-page decision comes on
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the same day that
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trump ally sydney powell she's the q on
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sympathizing lawyer and
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my pillow ceo mike lindell and yet rudy
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giuliani himself
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asked a d.c judge to throw out a trio of
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billion-dollar defamation lawsuits
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brought against them by dominion voting
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dominion claiming it has suffered quote
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unprecedented reputational and financial
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harm
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unquote due to falsehoods sped by spread
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by the trio
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in a quote viral disinformation campaign
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that disinformation campaign sound a
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little something like this
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gee just about the 700 000 votes
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that president trump was ahead by two
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days ago that disappeared
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president trump's campaign was denied
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its right to a fair count
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we have evidence of how they flip the
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votes how it was designed to flip the
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votes
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the machines can be hacked there's no
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question about that
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their machines can be hacked we are
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going to clean this
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mess up now president trump won by a
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landslide
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we are going to prove it joining me now
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is former federal prosecutor john
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flannery
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who worked with giuliani in the southern
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district of new york
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john so i i have to start with this
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because i
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find all of this bizarre and strange and
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i don't know how all of these people
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haven't lost their law licenses at this
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particular point
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giuliani's argument is that well it
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wasn't really me lying
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i was just sharing what witnesses said
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so i want to play this sound
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and get your thoughts on this as a
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lawyer on the other side
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okay everything i said about this case
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comes from a witness sometimes two or
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three witnesses
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i have a woman who was willing to
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testify
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that she was taught how to cheat by the
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democrat party in detroit
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before you can say i was acting
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improperly you've got to listen to these
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witnesses
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so in other words his argument is
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basically like
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the other people lied to me so i'm just
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lying for them like does that actually
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work in court unless it's like night
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court or something
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well it might delay the conviction a few
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minutes but it ends up in the same place
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i i've dealt with a number of
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prosecutions in which you know you have
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the i don't know
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uh perjury and usually you can prove
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that because they remember everything
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around it
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except the incident that they claim not
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to remember which is inculpatory
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he makes a big mistake here he assumes
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that people aren't going to read the 33
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pages that they wrote
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describing why he was a danger to the
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community that is to courts
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to legislators and to the public for the
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lies that he told
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and when he was in pennsylvania and this
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is why new york has a stake it was
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because he had a new york license he got
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to appear in the middle district of
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pennsylvania the first time
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in 20 years in a courtroom that's a
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lawyer for you
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but when he was talking to the court he
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was saying fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud
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and the court at one point said well is
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that in your complaint
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and he said at first it was and then it
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wasn't and that in
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and of itself is a lie but he had a
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whole series of factual
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misstatements that were demonstrably
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proven false
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he even said joe frazier is still voting
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in 2021.
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well he when he died in 2012 for a
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couple of months he was on the rolls and
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then he was removed like other people
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are when they're aware of it
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so his lies are petty and they're large
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and they're big
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and as a result 75 percent of
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republicans think the election was
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stolen because of his lie so this
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this had an effect and so when they say
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in new york we're going to suspend you
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they're suspending him and they might
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normally give you a chance to rebut it
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but what he
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said was so dangerous and so terrible
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that they invoke procedures they have
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and he gets to challenge them and at the
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end of the day there's a good chance
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he'll be disbarred so i'd like to think
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that uh
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this is the the spring of the reckoning
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this is we're now able to surface the
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reckoning
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because america is nuts for somebody to
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actually be punished for the wrongs
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they've done rudy giuliani
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right at the top right next to trump and
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several other people
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so john and this is the thing i i hear
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you because clearly
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whenever giuliani gets in trouble it's
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somebody else somebody you know he
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initially goes to the shaggy defense it
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wasn't me it was somebody else
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but i also think it's really important
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when you were focusing on the danger
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that he
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caused by spreading the lies and what
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those consequences have been
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at a local and a federal level i want to
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play you this really quick sound of him
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again in his own words question the
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election we'll talk about that on the
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other side
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those are the ballots that were stuck in
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the machine eight times nine times
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ten times i don't know what the vote in
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michigan is our vote
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is owned by two venezuelans
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who were allies of chavez now if they
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ran such a clean election why wouldn't
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they make
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all the machines available immediately
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what amazes me it was when these same
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arguments were being made
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by democratic activists and organizers
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in florida and georgia they all said
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they were crazy
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john after hearing something like this
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what kind of defense because you said
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look it's suspension now
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he could eventually be disbarred what
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would be the line what else does
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giuliani have to do to actually beat
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this bard in new york
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well we have a limp uh prosecutorial
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team
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in various places and i mean new york dc
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and
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georgia which don't act and i don't
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understand
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it because as a young prosecutor this
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kind of outrageous crime would just turn
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the juices i mean you'd have
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you'd have fire in the belly to bring
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down people like this and we're not
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doing it and that itself works against
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us
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so what we really have is an
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interference in the election from the
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2016 election to the 2020 election and
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every place in between cover-ups to
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avoid it
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and nobody's punished for it it's not
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enough to wring your hands and say oh
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you shouldn't do that that's really
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terrible and then we do nothing for it
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and we still invoke uh terms like no man
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is above the law when plainly
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these guys are and uh i wish new york
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could get off its buns and i wish
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both the southern district and the da's
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office and georgia would do it
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and we stopped talking about rioters
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let's go let's look at what the
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intelligence people were doing not doing
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let's look at what the hill was doing
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not doing
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that's the big case it's not about the
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rioters they're the facility
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for an incitement for an insurrection
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who was really
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behind it really quick we've got 30
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seconds i just have a quick question
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now that giuliani's law license is
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suspended does this mean that
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conversations that he has with people no
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longer have attorney-client privilege
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would that also be a new opening no i'll
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bet you that
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very few of the conversations that we
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would be interested in hearing were
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attorney-client privilege
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but an attorney-client privilege in the
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past persists in the past
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through the president even while he's
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suspended now
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a nice question would be if i talk to
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him now when his license
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is suspended can he advise me and i
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think the answer is
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hey i don't ask and b uh why would you
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ask
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nobody would listen john flannery thank
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you so very much for your time i
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appreciate it
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