Should You Pay Off Your Mortgage At Retirement? - YouTube

Channel: Approach Financial

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Should you pay off your mortgage when you聽 get to retirement? That's a great question,聽聽
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and it's rarely a bad idea to pay off聽 debt. But it can be kind of tricky so聽聽
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we're going to go over that and maybe cover some聽 of the dominant themes that you want to consider.聽聽
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By the end of this video, you'll have a solid聽 understanding of the advantages and disadvantages,聽聽
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and we're going to go over a specific example聽 with some numbers including some some tax numbers.聽聽
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Just to give you a quick preview, this isn't聽 going to be an extravagant example of a huge debt.聽聽
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It's a pretty common debt amount but it can make聽 somebody jump from the 12 percent federal income聽聽
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tax bracket to the 24 percent federal income聽 tax brackets, so that can affect your decision聽聽
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so the advantages of paying off the聽 debt are probably pretty obvious to you.聽聽
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You have no more monthly payment and that is聽 often one of your biggest expenses in retirement聽聽
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(health care might be another one but when you聽 can get rid of that mortgage payment it makes life聽聽
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a lot easier). So you also stop paying interest,聽 and you might be paying at a relatively low rate,聽聽
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but still that's going to drain some of your聽 resources and cost money so if you can quit聽聽
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paying interest that's often a good thing. And聽 then, of course you can reduce market risk,聽聽
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so you might say that you have a lot of money in聽 a retirement account, and at retirement, you're聽聽
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concerned about all of the ups and downs in the聽 markets. But if you can put that money into your聽聽
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home mortgage you can, again, stop paying interest聽 which is kind of like getting a guaranteed return.聽聽
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So if you're paying interest at three or four聽 percent that's similar to a guaranteed loss,聽聽
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but if you can stop paying that interest you聽 effectively get a guaranteed return of that much.聽聽
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These are the reasons that a lot of people like to聽 pay that off, and let's get into an example here聽聽
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let's assume you owe $150,000 on your聽 home you've got that much in an IRA or a聽聽
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maybe it's your TSP or 403(b) any of those聽 retirement accounts. We'll say you and a spouse聽聽
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get a total of 36,000 of income. Now, if you聽 are a single person this isn't going to change聽聽
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the equation much at all, so we'll assume that聽 you have the average Social Security income for聽聽
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an individual of about $18,000 per year, so it聽 doesn't matter (single or coupled). Then we're聽聽
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going to say you're also taking withdrawals from a聽 pre-tax account of $36,000 per year so that gives聽聽
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you a total spending money of about $72,000 per聽 year before taxes and if we look at that situation聽聽
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you'd be roughly in the 12 percent federal income聽 tax bracket. You might be wondering why is that so聽聽
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low? If we look at the amount you're going to pay聽 in federal income taxes it's roughly $2,700 and聽聽
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we need to remember that you're going to get a聽 standard deduction so in this case we have the聽聽
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couple's standard deduction and that not all of聽 your Social Security income is taxable so if you聽聽
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primarily have Social Security income and maybe聽 a relatively low income based on on withdrawals聽聽
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from your retirement accounts you're probably not聽 going to pay a huge amount in taxes. And that's聽聽
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the situation here but if you do pay off the loan聽 it looks something like this we've got your 36 000聽聽
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of social security income another 36 000 of IRA聽 withdrawals and then this big huge chunk for聽聽
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the $150,000 withdrawal. As you can see, that聽 substantially increases your income now with聽聽
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a smaller loan you know maybe you have eight聽 thousand bucks left or something and you say i聽聽
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just want to get rid of it so that it's out of my聽 hair and i don't need to worry about it you know聽聽
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that's going to make much less of a difference but聽 if you do have this big loan like that it's going聽聽
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to make a big difference so in this case we're聽 looking at total income taxes federal that you聽聽
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would pay we have not included state taxes here of聽 about 34 000 so that's going to be an increase of聽聽
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about thirty one thousand five hundred dollars for聽 that year so that's a big difference and what that聽聽
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means is that when you go to pay off the mortgage聽 you're not just gonna pull out the hundred fifty聽聽
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thousand that's your loan balance you're also聽 going to have to pull out 35 000 or so on top of聽聽
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that so that you can cover those taxes so this can聽 make a substantial dent in your retirement savings聽聽
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plus you're going to be writing a big check聽 to the irs or doing a big online uh transfer聽聽
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now the question comes up of course you will pay聽 taxes on that money eventually as you withdraw it聽聽
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but if you're pulling it out slowly if you're just聽 dribbling it out you know a couple thousand at a聽聽
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year or a couple thousand a month it's gonna聽 probably be at a lower rate so that can mean聽聽
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that you would pay uh substantially less over聽 your lifetime and you can keep that money in聽聽
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the in the tax deferred account to compound so聽 we've got some other issues that might come up聽聽
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you might be paying higher medicare premiums in a聽 future year and often that'll be just for a year聽聽
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in a situation like this but you might have to聽 pay more each month for your medicare premiums聽聽
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you might also increase the amount of social聽 security income that's taxable to you and that聽聽
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is included in that example we just looked at by聽 the way your your social security uh income is聽聽
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more taxable which increases the total federal聽 income tax you pay then if you're under age 59聽聽
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and a half you might be paying penalty taxes聽 and we need to remember that when you're in聽聽
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the latest years of your loan you might not be聽 paying that much interest on your loan balance聽聽
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anyway because as you pay down a loan balance with聽 most standard amortizing loans you're paying a聽聽
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lot of the interest upfront in the early years of聽 the loan but as you get towards those later years聽聽
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you have paid most of the interest charges so聽 most of each monthly payment on your mortgage聽聽
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goes towards paying down the loan聽 balance so it might not be costing you聽聽
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quite as much as you think and a couple of other聽 potential pitfalls might be number one access to聽聽
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those funds so when you put it into the home it聽 can be very difficult to get that money back you聽聽
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could potentially borrow against your home equity聽 using a second mortgage of some sort or a reverse聽聽
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mortgage in retirement but getting those types聽 of loans can be expensive it might require income聽聽
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if you're going to do a home equity loan so聽 it can take time and just make it difficult to聽聽
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get that money there's also an issue of creditor聽 protection so your money is typically quite safe聽聽
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in retirement accounts your home is also typically聽 quite safe but there could be situations where聽聽
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your home is at risk like if you're not paying聽 you know taxes in particular uh property taxes聽聽
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so you know you just have those questions that聽 you want to at least raise and think about and聽聽
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then you just have less money available to聽 draw on because you have spent most of your聽聽
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retirement savings on paying down that debt so聽 if cash flow is going to be a potential issue聽聽
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you want to look very closely at that decision聽 before you you move all that money into your home聽聽
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a lot of people when they approach this question聽 they just talk about the rate so what about the聽聽
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rate so as you are paying interest at a relatively聽 low rate the question always comes up well could聽聽
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you do better on your investments and when you're聽 in retirement you might be more conservative聽聽
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so you're not necessarily going to be investing聽 aggressively you know whether or not that's聽聽
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going to be an issue it's just hard to聽 say because we can't predict the future聽聽
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but you want to at least ask what is the rate of聽 interest i'm paying and again are your monthly聽聽
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payments going towards mostly interest or mostly聽 principal and is it possible to do a little bit聽聽
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better in the markets and of course you could聽 lose money if you keep that money invested聽聽
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so you need to acknowledge that as well once聽 again it's rarely a bad idea to pay off debt聽聽
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because you do get that guaranteed reduction聽 in cost you um you know aren't going to have聽聽
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that money in the markets but it's not always聽 the best approach so i hope that this has been聽聽
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a helpful discussion and gives you some ideas聽 if you want to do a detailed analysis of your聽聽
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loan and does it make sense to pay that聽 off please let me know would be happy to聽聽
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do something like that for you you have a you聽 have an idea of the high level themes here but聽聽
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the only way to know for sure is to kind of look聽 at your details and then make some assumptions聽聽
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