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- I think that one of the single biggest challenges

for investors is understanding that dividends do not matter.

Dividends do not matter.

Corporations can use their capital

to invest in future projects,

fund the research and development

or fund that mergers and acquisitions.

If they do not do any of these things with their capital,

which would happen if none of the activities

would be expected to provide an acceptable return,

then they will return capital to shareholders.

Returning capital to shareholders happens

in one of two ways, dividends or share buybacks.

Dividends are paid in cash

while buybacks reduce the outstanding shares on the market

increasing the amount of profits

that accrue to the remaining shareholders.

Both have the same net result to shareholders.

Keeping in mind that dividends do not matter

to your returns, dividend growers,

or companies with a long history

of increasing their dividends,

have had great historical performance.

From 1999 through December, 2017,

the S&P 500 Dividend Aristocrats index

has beaten the S&P 500 by a whopping 3.37%

per year on average.

But as always, there's more to the story.

I'm Ben Felix, associate portfolio manager at PWL Capital.

In this episode of common sense investing,

I'm going to tell you why chasing dividends

might hurt you in the long run.

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Before I start the episode,

I do want to let everyone know

that I've started a weekly podcast called

"The Rational Reminder."

It's a reality check on sensible investing

and financial decision making for Canadians

co-hosted by my PWL Capital colleague, Cameron Passmore.

If you enjoy my common sense investing videos,

I think that you will really like the podcast.

I've put links to "The Rational Reminder"

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The magnitude of capital of return to shareholders

in the U.S. market,

that is both dividends and share repurchases,

averaged about 4.4% of total market cap

from 1973 through 2016.

Dividends were far more prominent in 1973

but buybacks grew steadily over time.

In recent years, there has been about an equal split

between share repurchases and dividends.

And the total payouts

have been near the long-term historical average.

The fact that companies returned capital

to shareholders about equally

using buybacks and dividends should be further indication

that dividends do not matter.

Why would a company that returns lots of capital

with dividends be better than a company

that returns lots of capital through share repurchases?

The answer is that there is no reason.

The fascination with dividends can mostly be attributed

to the mental accounting bias.

It feels good to have cash appear

in your investment account.

It feels like getting a paycheck for doing nothing.

Unfortunately, dividends are net neutral

in terms of your wealth, before taxes are considered.

When a company pays a dividend,

it drops in value by the amount of a dividend.

If we think about two investors

who each own a different $10 stock,

one stock pays a dividend and the other doesn't.

If investor A's stock pays them a $1 dividend,

they now have $1 in cash and a $9 share,

while investor B has a $10 share.

In a real market, prices are fluctuating all the time

so investors never get to see it as explicitly

as in our clean example, but whether you see it or not,

this is exactly what is happening.

It should be clear by now

that a dividend does not bring you any benefit.

With this in mind, it's also important to understand

that chasing dividends leads

to many unfavorable characteristics in a portfolio.

A dividend-focused portfolio would exclude 35 to 40%

of the opportunity set of stocks to invest in,

which inherently decreases diversification.

While it is true that dividends have been less volatile

than the capital return of stocks over time,

dividends are by no means a guaranteed source of income.

In 2009, for example,

14% of firms around the world eliminated their dividend

and 43% of firms reduced their dividend.

In a 2013 paper from Dimensional Fund Advisors,

the returns of global developed

market dividend paying stocks

were compared to non-dividend payers.

In the sample period spanning 1991 through 2012,

all dividend payers had a compound average annual return

of 7.6%, while non-payers

had the exact same compound average return.

This is what we would expect if dividends play no role

in explaining differences in returns.

In a 1998 paper, Eugene Fama and Kenneth French

examined dividend yield as a potential value factor,

or a quantitative metric to identify value stocks.

They tested dividend yield, price-to-book

and price-to-earnings ratios,

and found that dividend yield produced

the smallest value premium.

This has important implications for dividend investors.

If dividend payers tend to be value stocks

then observing higher returns

of dividend payers over time

could really be the value factor in disguise.

If this is the case, targeting value stocks directly

as opposed to accidentally

by chasing dividends would be a much more sensible approach

to accessing the value premium.

So far, we have talked about dividend payers

versus non-payers in general.

Any seasoned dividend investor will be scoffing at me.

You don't just buy any dividend stock,

you buy good solid companies with a long history

of increasing dividends and you buy them at a good price.

Let's unpack that.

Is buying a good solid company like BMO or Fortis

a good investment?

Only if you know something that the market doesn't.

When a company is rock solid,

it is no secret that it is rock solid.

The whole market knows that,

so those expectations are already included in the price.

If the company does what it is expected to do,

you might expect to earn

something close to the market return,

while also taking on the risk of that individual company

not delivering on its expectations.

It is only if the company exceeds current expectations

that you would expect to do better than the market.

And there's no good reason to believe

that you can anticipate those results,

at least not consistently.

Now I know that there are a lot

of dividend investors out there

who have had lots of success with their portfolio.

They may have even been able to retire

and live off of the dividends,

the dividend investor's dream.

I would argue that this has nothing to do with the fact

that they own dividend paying stocks

and everything to do with having a philosophy

that they can get behind and stick to.

The story of buying solid companies

that you are familiar with is compelling.

It is not backed by data, but it is a good story.

Good enough to keep people invested through bad markets

and get them excited about consistently socking away

a good chunk of their income to buy more stocks.

I think that dedicated dividend investors

probably have a great time reading dividend investing blogs

and searching for the next good buy.

This is not a rational activity, but if it motivates someone

to be a disciplined saver and investor,

then it makes sense that they would have

good long-term results.

However, it is extremely important to identify why

they were successful.

Based on the data, they were very unlikely

to have been successful due to buying

the right dividend stocks at the right time

and much more likely to have been successful

due to paying low fees and staying disciplined

over the longterm.

I can't stress enough that picking dividend growers

should not be expected to beat the market over the longterm.

We can look to the SPIVA Canada year end 2017 report

for a sample of professional investors

who try to do exactly this.

For the 10 years ending December, 2017,

the S&P TSX Canadian Dividend Aristocrats Index

returned 8.01% per year on average.

There were 48 dividend mutual funds in Canada

at the start of that period.

And exactly zero of them managed to beat the index

over 10 years.

The average return of the funds was 4.9% per year

on average over the period.

Even if we add back an estimated 2.5% fee,

the funds were unable to match the dividend index.

Now here's where it gets tricky.

I just told you that dividend funds

can't beat the dividend index,

but both the Canadian and U.S. Dividend Aristocrats Indexes

have decimated the broad market in recent history.

This should raise some eyebrows.

Don't worry, there is a sensible explanation.

Dividend paying companies, especially dividend growers,

do tend to have exposure to the known factors

that explain the differences in returns

of diversified portfolios.

They tend to be value companies

with robust profitability and conservative investment.

For example, the strong performance

of the S&P 500 Aristocrats Index is well explained

by excess exposure relative to the S&P 500

to the factors that explain the differences in returns

between diversified portfolios.

Simply put, the difference in returns

is explained by the Aristocrats Index

having exposure to more value stocks,

more stocks with robust profitability

and more stocks that invest conservatively

relative to the broad market.

This starts to get a little nuanced.

So try and stick with me for a second.

There's an extremely important distinction between a company

with exposure to the factors

and a company with a long track record

of increasing its dividend.

The distinction is that not all stable dividend payers

have exposure to the factors,

and many stocks that do have exposure to the factors

are not dividend payers.

The implication for an investor is that by targeting stocks

that have increased their dividend over time,

you might get naive exposure to the factors

which could improve your outcome,

but because you were not intentionally

targeting the factors, your factor exposure

may not be consistent over time.

The price that you ended up paying for that naive

and potentially inconsistent factor exposure

is the loss of diversification.

You are excluding many of the companies in the market

simply because they don't pay

an increasing dividend over time

which we have established as irrelevant.

Buying dividend paying stocks may offer exposure

to the known factors of higher expected returns

over some time periods,

but that factor exposure may be inconsistent over time.

The price for a chance at this naive factor exposure

is a substantial lack of diversification

that is likely to do more harm than good over the longterm.

There is no meaningful evidence

that dividends alone are an indicator

of strong future returns,

and there is definitely no evidence

that investors can successfully pick

dividend paying stocks consistently

in order to beat the market.

As usual, most investors are probably better off investing

in low-cost total market index funds

to capture the longterm returns of capitalism as a whole.

If you going to bet on a factor,

the well-researched factors such as size,

value and profitability are much better bets than dividends.

I bet there will be a ton

of dividend investors watching this video

thinking that I'm crazy.

So please change my mind in the comments.

Thanks for watching.

My name is Ben Felix of PWL Capital,

and this is Common Sense Investing.

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