Funding A Policy With A Lump Sum - 60 YR Old Male | IBC Global, Inc - YouTube

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so we are going to take a look at a lump sum聽 study we're going to look at an individual聽聽
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with a lump sum of money that wants to get it聽 into a high cash value life insurance policy but聽聽
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they don't like the idea of payment it's more聽 so hey what's the most efficient manner I can聽聽
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get it into a life insurance policy and maximize聽 my cash value that's the name of the game that's聽聽
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their main goal so when we have a cash value life聽 insurance policy or I should say let me back up聽聽
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for this case study what we're going to look聽 at with a cash value life insurance policy聽聽
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is a 60 year old male so we're going聽 to look at someone a little bit older聽聽
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with a lump sum of cash to see how can he optimize聽 the cash value at the end of the day we're going聽聽
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to assume a lump sum of three hundred thousand聽 dollars goal again is to maximize cash value and聽聽
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the company slash policy dividend rate the聽 gross crediting rate is about six percent聽聽
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with this particular sample so the question is and聽 this often comes up as hey if I have a lump sum of聽聽
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money say it's 300,000 and the insurance company聽 is paying a dividend rate presently of six percent聽聽
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maybe it's just the guaranteed rate of four聽 percent doesn't it make sense for me just to聽聽
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give you all the money up front so the money can聽 begin to compound right away does that make sense聽聽
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is it possible well the question is can I do it聽 that's the question we'll often get and the answer聽聽
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is yes but it won't be that attractive meaning a聽 one-time payment if I just take that three hundred聽聽
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thousand dollars and put it into a policy in one聽 shot we're going to assume a non-MEC here because聽聽
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we want to keep the tax benefits alive within the聽 life insurance policy with a non-MEC it won't be聽聽
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that attractive so as we look at the mechanics聽 here main goal is efficiency how do I get聽聽
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the most juice out of the money that I pay into a聽 policy I want to optimize the cash value first and聽聽
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foremost spreading it out over a number of years聽 with a life insurance policy will actually make聽聽
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more sense and we're going to break it down and聽 go into detail here what we're going to look at is聽聽
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an example of taking that 300,000 and funding it聽 over one three and five years so you'll see 300k聽聽
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100k for three years and then 60k for five years聽 same total of of 300 grand at the end of the day聽聽
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and the goal here is again make it as efficient聽 as possible and also a non-MEC so obviously for a聽聽
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single pay we could look at a single premium life聽 insurance policy which would be a MEC that would聽聽
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look good but we've got the MEC status and it聽 kind of ruins everything so what we've got up here聽聽
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is an example of a policy of our 60 year old聽 male on the left we see a policy of a one聽聽
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with a one-time payment three hundred thousand聽 dollars center hundred thousand for three years聽聽
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far right 60k for five years total of 300k in聽 all of these examples so 300 1 times 3 60 times 5聽聽
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okay now what I will note here before we get into聽 the mechanics or start breaking down the columns聽聽
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let's do it this way look at the death benefits聽 they are a little bit oddball figures right you've聽聽
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got 4 million 280,000 1 million 426,000 and then聽 856,000 so this is a little bit of my OCD coming聽聽
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into play when we design these policies聽 which I do quite a bit but what I was aiming for聽聽
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just for pure apples to apples comparison same聽 company same health rating all that good stuff
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were clean MEC limits so 4.28聽 million MEC limit was exactly 300,000
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1.426 million MEC limit was a clean 100,000聽 and an 856 MEC limit for the same 60 year old聽聽
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male was a clean sixty thousand dollars so what聽 we're doing in this particular example is funding聽聽
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up to the MEC line not going over because we want to keep the tax benefits聽聽
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that cash value life insurance carries now these聽 colors red we've got a description here represents聽聽
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the base premium still due but the policyholder聽 not paying it so the policy has to pay for the聽聽
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premium meaning let me back up if the premiums聽 still do and I'm not paying it out of pocket聽聽
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it has to come from somewhere policy can borrow聽 from itself or if there are enough dividends and聽聽
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interest to cover it the policy can pay for itself聽 through surrendering a portion of the dividends in聽聽
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interest so red will represent the policy paying聽 for itself yellow represents the breakeven point聽聽
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and then light pink represents policy with the聽 strongest cash value over time meaning which聽聽
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option gives me optimum cash because that's what聽 we're looking for efficiency so let's begin on the聽聽
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left a one-time payment of 300 tag these are all聽 optimized with this insurance company that 10/90聽聽
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split 10 premium 90 PUA optimize the upfront cash聽 in long term especially on the guarantees via long聽聽
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term so strongest cash compared to the other聽 examples in years one and two because he got聽聽
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the most money in one shot 30k base premium聽 300k out of pocket now here's the interesting聽聽
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piece beginning year two he pays nothing in聽 red is the 30,000 base premium that's still due聽聽
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but he's not paying it so what's happening is聽 the dividends and the guaranteed interest portion聽聽
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is supporting that premium on its own it's all聽 internal now we've got a turn rider associated聽聽
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with this as well so what's happening here cash聽 kind of stays the same and then starts to go down
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until year eight where we were able to cut聽 the term rider and we made another move with聽聽
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the policy two which reduced the death benefit and聽 then the cash begins to increase however with that聽聽
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said look at this between years 11 and 12 when聽 the policy finally breaks even that means you聽聽
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paid in 300,000 as a 60 year old male and 12 years聽 later you got your money back by making a one-time聽聽
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payment non-MEC traditional life insurance policy聽 not attractive right I wouldn't do it I wouldn't聽聽
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do it at 30. Let alone 60. Then we've got the聽 examples with spreading it out over three years聽聽
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so annual out of pocket is one hundred聽 thousand dollars much stronger break-even point
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look at this year four very strong from聽 a performance standpoint and this also聽聽
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begins to address the question we hear聽 all the time for someone in their 60s聽聽
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you know we'll hear "I've got to be too old聽 for life insurance" right if we're price quoting聽聽
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the cost will be higher if you are optimizing it聽 for cash value the death benefit will be lower聽聽
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for an older individual than it is for a younger聽 individual that makes sense we've got more content聽聽
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we can send you on that if you like but point聽 being spreading it out over three years way聽聽
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stronger break-even point if you want to compare聽 the year 12 mark look at this difference over 100k聽聽
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same insurance company same out-of-pocket just聽 spread out over three years and you've produced聽聽
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over a hundred grand more than the one time lump聽 sum it's interesting isn't it the reason why聽聽
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This base premium here you covered聽 it for three full years meaning those were聽聽
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years it did not have to pay itself those are聽 two years less of drag that you had over here聽聽
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now beginning year four there's drag on the policy聽 but you've got enough money into the policy where聽聽
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it's compounding there's enough acceleration聽 there's enough movement forward to help聽聽
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make up for the drag so now I'm starting to see聽 okay spreading it out over three years got the聽聽
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policy up and running so now I can easily support聽 that premium and still appreciate and then we make聽聽
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the exact same move here after year seven cut聽 the death benefit term reduction reduce paid up聽聽
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this is optional we don't have to do it but聽 it does accelerate the cash value growth
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and then we've got spreading it聽 out over five years so 60 for five
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you'll notice the ratios remain聽 consistent in all of these聽聽
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what happens now break even same聽 point in year four same point in time
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it's different though much stronger cash value聽聽
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beginning year seven actually we've only聽 got two years of drag we can call it where聽聽
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that premium is due and we're not paying it is a much lower premium so the policy only聽聽
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has to internally pay a 6k premium聽 as opposed to a 10 or a 30,000 premium聽聽
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so the interest earned is greatly exceeding the聽 premium due here so this is why if we look here聽聽
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not a huge difference but you do see there's聽 about 2k here as we look over time about 4k
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again not huge you'll find that the sweet spot聽 for someone age 60 is typically going to be between聽聽
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four and five years but right here not a big聽 difference even with the three pay but it's good聽聽
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to see this kind of stuff presenting options and聽 such where we see everything up front so there's聽聽
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no chance of buyer's remorse or anything like that聽 you know a lot of times when showing these options聽聽
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someone might say okay you know I've got the聽 lump sum today I don't want to be on the hook聽聽
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to pay anything thereafter but I might want to聽 keep adding money I want to keep that option聽聽
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open Steve I don't want to just shut it down聽 after three years which you can definitely do聽聽
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so in the case with any of these I mean in theory聽 you could make the 300 or even make the one-time聽聽
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300 payment but let's say we do this one 100 for聽 three and then you stated you know what I want to聽聽
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keep funding I had a couple good years I can't pay聽 in 100 anymore but maybe I'm paying in 25k a year聽聽
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and I pay that for five or seven聽 years maybe I go all the way down聽聽
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I want to keep on pumping cash into聽 it you can do that kind of stuff聽聽
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now depending on how much the upfront聽 design is important point being can聽聽
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design it to be flexible so in any event to聽 kind of get back on track when it comes to聽聽
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funding a policy with a lump sum it is often聽 more efficient for the consumer to spread it out聽聽
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