Revenue Model Example: Forecasting in Excel - YouTube

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Hey everyone, we are back with another video and聽today we're learning how to build a revenue model聽聽
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in excel, and this will be geared towards people聽that don't have any prior experience building聽聽
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revenue models, maybe you're an entrepreneur trying聽to raise some money with investors or get a loan,聽
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but if you have no prior background this is the聽video for you. My name is Brandon Crossley, I am聽聽
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the CEO of Poindexter, and Poindexter helps people聽 do exactly what we're talking about in this video;聽聽
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create revenue models and financial statements聽 for the process of raising money from investors,聽聽
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or getting loans, and so we've helped thousands聽 of businesses do this so we have some experience聽聽
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in this space, and our goal for this video is to聽 show you how revenue models are built from scratch聽聽
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using some basic principles that you can then use聽 to apply to a wide array of different scenarios.聽聽
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We're not going to be able to cover every聽 sort of business model in this video,聽聽
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but hopefully, after you watch you will have the聽 skills to be able to ask the right questions and聽聽
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tackle more difficult scenarios as you encounter聽 them. We'll start by covering what a revenue model聽聽
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is, and quite simply it's just the process of聽 defining how the business will make money. When we聽聽
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talk about revenue modeling we're looking at the聽 success of the revenue model that we've defined聽聽
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over some specified time frame, and we do that by聽 taking some core variables that are important to聽聽
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the success of the revenue model, for instance in聽 this case we're looking at the number of customers,聽聽
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the average price they would pay, and then聽 multiplying those two items together to聽聽
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determine what revenue would be to build out聽 a very simple revenue model. This would be聽聽
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far more simple than anything you're going to聽 encounter in the real world; yours is likely聽聽
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going to be much more complex than this, so this is聽 the base level knowledge that you have, so you now聽聽
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understand, at least to some degree, what a revenue聽 model is. In a moment we're going to get into聽聽
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some of the tips and techniques that you can use聽 to add some real world complexity into your model聽聽
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without getting too convoluted. Before we do I聽 wanted to cover a simple graphic that I found in聽聽
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researching this video that will help distill the聽 revenue model down into five different components聽聽
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here, or five different questions that you can聽 ask yourself. It was made by the University of聽聽
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Tilburg if I get my sources correct, from quora at聽 least, and it allows us to ask five questions that聽聽
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will help clearly define, or more clearly define,聽 what our revenue model looks like before we go聽聽
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about modeling it in excel. So when we look聽 at the question who pays, we might think of聽聽
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the typical scenario of an end customer just being聽 the person that pays you and they get some product聽聽
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or service. That's not always the case, so for an聽 advertiser, or if we have an advertising business聽聽
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model, and we have a website where we're selling,聽 advertising the customer is actually not the user聽聽
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that comes to your site, it's the advertiser聽 that's paying you for access to your users.聽聽
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So that will change dramatically the聽 dynamics that are at play as far as聽聽
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how you go about attracting advertisers, and聽 setting up relationships and transacting with them聽聽
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and what sales cycles might look like, so there's a聽 lot of implications at play just simply by asking聽聽
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who pays for the product or service, and that goes聽 the same for the rest of these. So what is paid,聽聽
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for what is paid, how it's paid, and how much is聽 paid, so this is pretty comprehensive as far as聽聽
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just looking at the revenue model itself. I'm not聽 going to dive into each of these individually,聽聽
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but if you're interested in learning more, I did聽 find a helpful blog post by lucidity that goes聽聽
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into detail on each of these sections. I'll put a聽 link to the blog post in the description below if聽聽
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you'd like to take a look at that. But one of the聽 things that isn't considered by this revenue model聽聽
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is what is the feeding mechanism into this聽 revenue model? So, when we talk about revenue聽聽
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modeling in excel we're actually going to take a聽 step back and look at how do we fill this revenue聽聽
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model once we have all the structure in place for聽 the answers to the questions that we have here?聽
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What does that look like? And that brings us to聽 the next step which is our example model in excel,聽聽
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and right now it's blank because the best place聽 to start is with simple concepts, and then we聽聽
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can build upon those simple concepts into more聽 sophisticated concepts as we get further into this.聽聽
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so, right now all we have is a table that has a聽 heading of month one through month twelve, and that聽聽
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could be real dates, but right now we're just going to聽 use those because it doesn't matter, and I'm going to聽聽
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label our first section here, over on the left-hand聽 side, called leads, and this is that lead generation聽聽
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or customer acquisition side of things that I聽 had mentioned a few moments ago that the revenue聽聽
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model itself doesn't include, but when we're聽 modeling things out in excel we definitely need,聽聽
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otherwise there's nothing to put into the revenue聽 model. So, we're going to just identify a couple聽聽
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customer acquisition channels here, so聽 I'm going to say TV ads is our next one聽聽
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after google, then let's do billboards so we聽 have some variability. So, we have some real world聽聽
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advertising, online advertising, and I'm going聽 to assign some very basic forecasts here, so聽聽
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I'm going to start with just random numbers, and聽 500 let's say, and then I'm just going to apply a聽聽
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growth rate to each of these. So, I'm going to say聽 that each of these is going to grow by let's say,聽聽
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not ten, two percent per month. I'm just going聽 to drag that out, good, and then apply it to the聽聽
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other two channels, and there we go. So, now we have聽 a forecast from each of our customer acquisition聽聽
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channels, and next we'll just sum these up just聽 so we have a nice little total here at the bottom.聽聽
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Okay, and I'm going to add a border to聽 the top there, because I'm anal-retentive.聽聽
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And there we go. So now we have all of our leads聽 that are summed up here at the bottom we know each聽聽
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channel, and how many are coming from each channel.聽 So, pretty simple right now, we can get much more聽聽
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complex and sophisticated about how we set that聽 up for even arriving at each of these numbers, but聽聽
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that's what we're going to get into next.聽 So, now we have all of our forecasts for聽聽
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our customer channels, let's get into聽 what we have for our revenue model. So,聽聽
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one of our revenue models, or聽 one of our revenue streams rather,聽聽
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which a revenue stream is simply just one聽 part of your revenue model. You might make聽聽
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money in multiple different ways, but all of those聽 ways taken together is your revenue model. So,聽聽
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this product one, right now we're just going to聽 treat as our whole revenue stream, so we're gonna聽聽
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only sell one product. It's gonna have a price聽 associated with it, and we'll say it's 19.99.
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Nope, okay that's what I get for doing this live.聽 And then i'm just going to paste that all the way聽聽
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down, cool, so if we're going to do the most basic聽 possible revenue model, all we have to do is say聽聽
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what is revenue from this? So, we have our price, and聽 we have how many people are going to purchase it,聽聽
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or how many leads we have assuming we convert 100 percent聽 of them, and boom we can calculate revenue based on聽聽
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the price and how many people are paying. And that聽 is all we would need to do if our revenue聽聽
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model is that basic, but in the real world, things聽 tend to be a little more complex than that. So,聽聽
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we're not going to get all the way down to revenue聽 just yet. There's a couple more steps along the way.聽聽
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The first of which is conversion. So,聽 we're going to have a conversion step.聽聽
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So, how many people are going to end up聽 paying, because usually, we'll start with聽聽
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a percentage here, usually not 100 percent of our leads聽 are going to pay. So, maybe we are really good at聽聽
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converting our leads, and then we're going to put聽 80 percent here just for the sake of argument.聽聽
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Maybe we have really targeted聽 advertising or something like that.聽聽
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If you have this good of聽 conversion, then congrats to you.聽聽
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So, now that we have a conversion rate we can say聽 how many actually convert to new customers.
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And we'll just simply take our 80 percent, multiply聽 it by the number of leads, and there we go.聽聽
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Now we have how many new customers聽 we actually have that we can say聽聽
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are purchasing our product. And, so we can even聽 take this number, and then just multiply it by聽聽
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the price, and again arrive at revenue, but what聽 if, for instance, we didn't want to rely simply on聽聽
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each new month that we have in front of聽 us, the customers that we're generating that are聽聽
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new customers each month for revenue? What if we聽 wanted to have a reliance on some of the previous聽聽
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customers we had acquired back in month one when聽 we're in month six for instance? Because relying聽聽
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on new customers every month to drive your revenue聽 is going to get very costly, because you're reliant聽聽
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completely on the cost of customer acquisition聽 and it's much cheaper to rely on customers you聽聽
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had already done business with. It's much cheaper聽 to get revenue from people that, hopefully, you've聽聽
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treated well, that have liked your service or聽 business and want to do business with you again.聽聽
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So how would we go about modeling that scenario聽 out? Well, first we'd want to start with what is the聽聽
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number of customers we have at the beginning聽 of the month, so we'll say "Beginning Customers."聽聽
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For a new business let's say we won't have any,聽 but if you have some you can just input that聽聽
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right there, and then we'll also have some at the聽 ending, at the end of the month, "Ending Customers."聽聽
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And, that would simply be a matter of聽 just taking the beginning customers,聽聽
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adding the new customers, and there's our聽 ending customers. And to carry this over, so聽聽
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the key here, and this is going to apply聽 to a lot of scenarios, like this could be...聽聽
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I won't get ahead of myself. What we're going to聽 want to do is carry this ending value for "Ending聽聽
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Customers" over to the beginning value for the next聽 month. And so that way it will build upon itself,聽聽
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see, so now I'm just going to drag this along聽 here, and drag that along here, and there we go.聽聽
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So, now we have our customer base, ending customers聽 for the month, constantly growing being fed by聽聽
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the new customers that we're acquiring each聽 month. Isn't that cool? I think so but, I'm also聽聽
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a little stranger than the average person, so wow聽 that's pretty great. So, now what we can do聽聽
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is we can say that we not only are acquiring聽 new customers that are paying us each month,聽聽
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but maybe some percentage of the customers that聽 we have acquired previously are going to pay us,聽聽
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come back and you know purchase some new shoes聽 or whatever you're selling. That's聽聽
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pretty sophisticated stuff, so let's start to model聽 out what that looks like, so we'll say that revenue聽聽
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we'll say that revenue, we're gonna split聽 this into two, so revenue from new customers,
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and then revenue from
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from existing customers. Oh my gosh I can't聽 type tonight, that's what I get for doing this so late.聽聽
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Alright, so now we can take our new customers,聽 we'll say that we have new customers here,聽聽
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and they buy our 19.99 product, and聽 that gives us our new customer revenue.聽聽
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Let's turn that to dollars聽 just so it's a currency amount.聽聽
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And then we just do the same for, actually for the聽 existing customers we're going to want to say that,聽聽
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let's make this, let's drag this down a聽 little bit. I should have planned this out a聽聽
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little better, but this is what we get for doing聽 things on the fly here. So, we're going to have聽聽
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some percentage of customers returning聽 customers that come back each month, for instance.
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And this will be the percentage, and let's say it's i don't know 15%.
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And then we're just gonna drag that out, and聽 then now we can say that return customers
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is going to be, we're going to, what we're going to聽 want to do here is if they're returning customers,聽聽
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we have to grab them from the beginning of the聽 month, right, because you can't have somebody聽聽
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returning if you've acquired them already that聽 month, so you know because that's...聽聽
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To illustrate a little more clearly, I guess聽 I should be on like one of these months聽聽
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so, if we have 1600 customers at the聽 beginning of the month and we're adding聽聽
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1600 more, we don't want to add them, we don't聽 want to include them in the number of customers聽聽
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that return, because we're already accounting聽 for the people that we're adding, so we want聽聽
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to take it from the beginning of the month if聽 that makes things more clear, so we'll take the聽聽
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customers at the beginning, multiply it聽 by our percentage of people coming back,
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and there we go. Now we have a nice little model聽 there, and we'll just simply take our returning聽聽
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customers, multiply it by the price, and we now聽 have our revenue from return customers. Pretty neat.聽聽
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So, we've already gotten a pretty key concept here聽 is really just understanding the carryover of聽聽
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beginning customers and ending customers, because聽 this will help you solve a lot of problems.聽聽
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For instance, if we wanted to go back to our lead聽 generation here, let's say we had like a newsletter聽聽
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where you're constantly sending helpful聽 information out to people that are part聽聽
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of it, and you're getting new customers, or getting聽 new subscribers to your newsletter every month聽聽
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and maybe something you pitch to them on a聽 monthly basis, a percentage will convert, or they聽聽
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won't, right. So, a newsletter as a lead source would聽 be great, but you would want to model it out more聽聽
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similar to how we've done it here where there's a聽 beginning number of subscribers you're adding some,聽聽
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and then there's an ending number of subscribers.聽 And you can also, I mean, you can do that with a聽聽
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lot of different scenarios, so I'm not going to聽 ramble on about that. The only thing that's really聽聽
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missing from this is in reality we are not going聽 to have as clean of a model as this is, because聽聽
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it would be nice to have a number of customers聽 that is constantly growing over time, and never聽聽
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falls, but unfortunately, that's just not how聽 reality works. So, we're going to add some churn聽聽
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here. So, this is another core concept is that聽 some people are just never going to come back,聽聽
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and we're going to have to live with that, no聽 matter how good our service is, or our product, so聽聽
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we're going to add our churn percentage now. We'll聽 say it's 5% or something like that, which is very聽聽
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good if you're in a software as a service business聽 like we are. And then we will say that our churn聽聽
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is simply just, take that five percent, multiply聽 it by customers at the beginning of the month,聽聽
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and there we go. And again we're going to want聽 to take it from the beginning of the month聽聽
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because the people, we don't want聽 to include these new people again.聽聽
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They can't churn if we're getting them this聽 month, they can only turn in the following months.聽聽
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So, we want to make sure to take the聽 churn percentage from this beginning value here.聽聽
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Then all we have to do is make sure we聽 subtract the people that are churning here聽聽
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from our ending value so that we're not聽 forgetting them in our final calculation.聽聽
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We don't want to do that. So, let's try that聽 again and then subtract the churn field, and聽聽
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cascade that down the forecast, and we can see that聽 our number of customers at the end here kind of聽聽
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decreased marginally, which is expected to be聽 the case, and if we just select one of these fields聽聽
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we can see that we are now taking the number聽 of customers at the beginning of the month,聽聽
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adding new customers, and then subtracting聽 the customers that never come back, because聽聽
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they ate some bad chili or whatever. But, hopefully聽 this provides a solid foundation for you to start聽聽
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to understand how to go about modeling scenarios聽 in excel so that they represent, at least聽聽
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to some degree, the real world. So if we wanted to聽 make this even more complicated, or more robust聽聽
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let's say and add a different product we could聽 simply just copy the product that we have here,
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we'll paste it down below, get rid of聽 the logo, make this product number two,
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and then we're converting 80 percent to product聽 one, so we'll say twenty percent product two聽聽
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and there we go. I'll need聽 to update some of these numbers聽聽
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because they are not referencing correctly,聽 but the idea is quite similar. So, all we聽聽
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need to do is just repeat this process for a聽 similar type product to make a multi-tiered聽聽
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product model, which is quite nice. If we wanted to聽 get into modeling out some customer acquisition聽聽
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we can get more detailed about how to think about聽 what this process looks like. So, for google ads聽聽
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what are the steps that these leads take before聽 they become leads even? So, they need to see an ad聽聽
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they might need to click on it, they might need to聽 sign up for a newsletter, or a service of some kind.聽聽
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What would that process look like? And maybe some聽 good homework for you would be to, instead of聽聽
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the simple revenue model we have now, think about聽 these new customers, what if this wasn't a simple聽聽
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price that they paid once? What if this was聽 a yearly annual amount that they paid as a聽聽
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sort of subscription? How would we keep track of聽 the 1600 one year from now so that they can pay聽聽
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the annual subscription fee when the time comes,聽 when the subscription is due? So, I hope that this聽聽
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was helpful and provided at least some background聽 on how to go about doing this process. If you want聽聽
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any other examples of models or scenarios that聽 you are encountering and would like some help with,聽聽
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please let me know, I'm happy to do聽 some more videos on this topic if聽聽
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