Is The Steel Bubble About To Pop? - YouTube

Channel: CNBC

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Steel is essential it's in everything. Think appliances
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like dishwashers and dryers, and fridges and microwaves, or even
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air conditioners, not to mention planes, trains and automobiles,
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and
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every type of manufacturing from machinery needs steel to build
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windmills, solar panel systems, certainly to build out the
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electricity grid.
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When the pandemic threw supply chains into chaos, steel was no
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exception, prices dropped, then popped
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A boom in steel demand.
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Demand is relentless.
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I think people feel like steels price will go higher.
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I've been looking at this as probably the second biggest
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impact to steel makers ever. And I think that the largest impact
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is World War Two.
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Impending steel shortages become a major problem as America's war
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production streamlines into high.
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Steel prices spiked 300% over pre pandemic levels, at one
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point pricing over $1900. That's up from steel's pre pandemic
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price range between $500 and $800.
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They have turned into a bubble that and that bubble is they
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just go higher because they go higher, we should see prices
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move back probably in a pretty violent manner.
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Is that the bubble popping?
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Yes, yep. Steel is one of those categories, which prices have
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really risen dramatically. So certainly one of those examples
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of shortages, higher prices, growing frustration among
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customers.
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Plus steel remains a key material in infrastructure
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projects. So the Biden administration's plan to inject
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billions into US infrastructure will be a huge boon to the steel
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manufacturers.
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We estimate that for every 100 billion dollars of new
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investment in infrastructure, that's going to mean 5 million
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tons of additional steel demand.
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2021 steel demand is expected to increase 3.8% over 2020,
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according to the World Steel Association.
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Can the US steel industry keep up with the demand and what
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happens when that bubble pops?
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Steel can be manufactured in two ways. First, there's the
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integrated method. In the simplest terms, you mine iron
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ore, you smelt the ore in a blast furnace with additional
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materials like coke, a form of process coal and limestone, and
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then you've made steel. But
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in the United States today, we actually make 70% of our steel
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using a different method, which is what we in the industry we
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call the electric arc furnace route.
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It's a way of melting down old steel scrap steel into brand new
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steel.
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Previously blue steel, old carb bodies, refrigerators, steel
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that was in old buildings, and that is shredded and melted
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down.
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Other alloys are added in like some new iron ore and then the
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furnaces tipped to pour out the molten steel.
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When it comes to clean steel, the US certainly is leading the
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way.
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But there is work yet to be done to make us steel production emit
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less carbon. Two of the US's biggest steel companies, Nucor
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and Steel Dynamics, both use electric arc furnaces or EAFs.
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If you think about the furnaces, the new cores and the steel
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dynamics, they have very competitive cost structures.
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They're very flexible in cost. They have a history of really
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good financial performance. And certainly their their stock has
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increased throughout all of this because higher prices have led
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to higher margins, which leads to higher earnings,
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but
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their stock hasn't moved as much as some of the other ones.
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The other ones, Cleveland Cliffs a purveyor of the integrated
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method, but they have some EAF mills too. And there's US Steel.
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The people that have moved the most though has been Cleveland
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Cliffs and US Steel. The market has been very challenging. It's
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been very competitive. And they've had to take on an
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increasing amount of debt leading up to the pandemic just
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to continue on. And then because of the structural change in the
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market, these mills earning excessive to historical norm
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margins, they've been able to pay down debt, pay off debt or
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buy back billions of dollars o shares. So the steel mills real
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y are a different company tod y than they were two years ag
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Steel prices are good, and they will continue to be strong. It's
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all about demand. We have limited supply, and people want
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things done right now. So that creates competition. That's the
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basis of capitalism will continue to work to reward our
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shareholders and to generate the cash that is necessary to
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reinvest in our business.
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The coronavirus pandemic definitely had an impact on the
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steel industry. Now steel producers were generally
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identified as essential industries so they weren't shut
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down by any government action. But many of our customers saw
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big drops in demand for instance, in the auto industry
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which buys maybe 25 26% of all the steel produced in the United
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States every year, largely shut down in the spring of 2020. And
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a lot of construction projects were slowed, everything. So
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demand for steel dropped precipitously between the middle
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of March and May, so much so that steel producers in the US
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responding to that market signal did reduce production
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dramatically. We had a number of steel mills that shut down
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altogether.
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Steel production went way down, and inventories depleted, and
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then demand started picking back up.
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So we've seen a huge, huge increase in demand. So much so
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that you know, steel production today is up 60% over where it
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was at the low point back in May of 2020.
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The economy began gaining steam in late 2020 as vaccines began
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to roll out.
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We have seen with this pandemic, locking things down and coming
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out of the lockdown was that there truly was a shortage,
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buyers could not get as much steel as they required just for
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normal operations outside of nobody was able to hoard steel,
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nobody was able to build any inventories because the mills
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were limited in terms of how much of each contract they could
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they can satisfy and they weren't selling much less than
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their their contractual volumes just because of this shortage.
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And then when demand came around you back distributors were
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caught short and then everyone started ordering steel at the
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same time. And it does take some time to make that steel. So our
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plants started coming back as quickly as they could.
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The US also imports a ton of steel.
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China is easily the world's leading manufacturer of steel.
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So we import a lot of them, we benefit from those low prices.
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But again, those tariffs have been in place, and that causes
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prices to rise. I'm not saying those tariffs are a good thing
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or a bad thing. I'm simply saying that they would tend to
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drive up price and they have done that.
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The US is the world's largest net importer of steel. Steel
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imports are up 17.5% year to date as of August 2021, the US
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imported more than 16 million metric tons of steel so far in
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2021 as of July. But depending on which country these imports
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come from, there's a tax on the steel imports, aka tariffs.
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In 2018. President imposed across the board steel tariffs
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as a national security measure because they were, the concern
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was that the levels of imports coming in were undermining the
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viability of the industry over the long term.
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President Trump said the increase in imports posed a
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threat that could drive US producers out of business,
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leaving the country dependent on foreign suppliers. Then he
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exempt big trading partners Canada and Mexico from these
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tariffs.
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When the Trump administration first started to implement those
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tariff increases, there was a big squeeze on domestic steel.
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So all of a sudden, people said I don't want to pay those
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tariffs. I want us manufactured steel. And part of that was
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because it just there was this notion of this is by American,
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let's produce more here. But what happened of course, when
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foreign steel prices go up, the masses steel prices go up. Steel
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prices were rising significantly during much of the Trump
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administration. And of course, the pandemic.
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Customers buying steel felt the impact of both the high prices
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and tariffs. On the flip side,
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I will say the one good piece of news is because we had those
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steel tariffs in place in 2020. The COVID-19 crisis could have
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been another demand shock, very similar what happened in the
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late 1990s. Or in 2008, 2009, we could have seen a new surge in
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imports because when imports come in at very high levels,
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they tend to undercut domestic producers, they often sell at a
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loss in this market what's called dumping.
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Dumping is when other firms or countries come into another
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country's market and dump products at artificially low
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prices.
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We put tariffs on all the crap that they were dumping from
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China 25%, they were dumping the steel than we said you can't do
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that.
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So dumping makes it hard for us manufacturers to run mills at a
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profit.
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But because we had those tariffs in place, that didn't happen.
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And so the industry remained healthy, was able to recover,
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continue its investment and be in a strong position to meet the
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growing demand that we see today. You want to be running
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your steel mill as close to full as you can to really cover those
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fixed costs. Plus, you really want to be running at least 85%
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capacity utilization, which is where we are today. But back in
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those years before the steel tariffs were imposed, we were
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running only in the low 70% range. And that was really an
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unsustainable level for us. That was because of the high level of
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imports coming in in those years.
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Tariffs also created an environment that incentivize the
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US industry to invest in its facilities.
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We've spent close to $16 billion dollars, just since 2018. And
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investments in new facilities and upgrading existing
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facilities.
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We do have pretty substantial amount of new capacity that's
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coming online that was in planning to be built for the
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past few years. They're coming online in Texas and Kentucky and
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in Toledo, Ohio. As that comes online, we expect prices to move
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back towards a more historic norm.
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I think what really comes next is the mills are going to be
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earning incredible profits this year, most of next year.
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We have already made in revenue more than $9 billion this year,
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in six months infrastructure bill will be an icing on the
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cake.
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And I think what's next, it really is how are they going to
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be investing those profits? What are they doing with it?
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For a long time was to continue and invest in the down cycles to
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create higher highs and higher lows. So the mills that are
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coming up online now are benefiting from that.
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As for steel prices in the US,
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There's a supply deficit that's supported prices, and that
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supply deficit is easing going away. And as that happens, we
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should see prices move back probably in a pretty violent
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manner, at least in the start, maybe a 15 to 20% drop in a
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matter of a month. And as that happens, prices will then be on
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there trend line down back towards more historic levels.
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Is that the bubble popping?
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Yes, yep.
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We see we see prices peaking here. And that really, it should
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be in this half of this year.
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I don't know that I would say that we're in a bubble that's
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going to be burst. I think we're going to see continued strong
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demand.
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The good news is that steel supply capacity will rise over
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time a cure for high prices is high prices. So when steel
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prices are high, that creates an incentive for suppliers to
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increase output and eventually capacity. I think you're going
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to see that happen. And so we hopefully will see lower price
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at some point in the future, even as the world continues to
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use more steel.