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You will get so many opportunities you will get tired of declining them

I’m declining 1 opportunity every week This guy is teaching you he has cracked amazon

he has done this in his career not with CP you know literally twice I failed JEE twice

and I did not get into a good college my CGPA was low my college attendance was literally under 5%

0 opportunities from college, tier-3 people don’t know much when they enter college

so they take advantage of that innocence they give me referral I have 2 but I haven’t used

them I have one from Adobe too I haven’t used it like it is a full letter saying

“would you like to give an interview” I asked someone who works at Google North America

I was like “hey can you give me a google referral I do some great work” he was like yeah

77 offers out of which 18 are Indian tech companies else are around the world.

Hey Everyone I am Ishan Sharma and in this video I will be talking with Kunal to learn about

competitive coding and software development what should you be doing what should you not be doing

the pros and cons of each of the field what is out there happening in the market what has

more value and that will help you decide what is it that you should be taking a path on

I hope this would be insightful so make sure you watch this video till the very end the part

1 of yhe interview was really well received by you so thank you so much for watching that

make sure you watch this one too till the very end make as much notes as possible

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Bro lets talk about the age old question that every single student that gets in the college

have for lets say they have a goal of cracking big tech companies and so they have this

question should I go into CP or should I go inton development and we’re not talking about

DSA. DSA I think everyone should do I would love to hear your opinion on that should we

go into competitive programming or should we go into android development or web development

in general so what do you think about that yeah so first thing I would recommend if you’re

just starting out in college do DSA. DSA and Problem Solving and for that

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structures and algorithms and learn problem solving skills this is crucial very important

and mandatory and it’s also good to have a good understanding of this if you want to be

a good software engineer even if you want to do development problem solving can help you

once you do problem solving and DSA like leetcode and stuff you can try your hands on

competitive coding you can try your hands on competitive coding so listen very carefully

what I’m trying to say I am not saying don’t do competitive coding I am just saying once you

start competitive coding you will yourself realize whether it is for you or not so those are

my views when I did competitive programming I realized there were so many less opportunities

with all these rankings and competitive coding as compared to development so according to me

or my personal experience opportunities via competitive coding are way less in my experience

as compared to development and open-source so competitive coding to be honest to share with

you frankly coaching institutes overhyped IIT-JEE in India, youtubers and ed-tech startups

overhyped GSOC and competitive coding in India for example if someone is telling you hey

I made it to Amazon I got a job in Amazon and there are so many people

who are starting their channel who work at Amazon which is great because in the starting

I mentioned if you do good work share it in public this also applies to everyone else

so someone is saying hey I got into Amazon India it was only due to competitive coding

I have been involved in so many startups they literally say id you don’t do C++ if you don’t

do competitive coding you will not get any job opportunity or anything like that

people try to put GSOC mentor posters and try to sell their courses so much scam is

happening in front of your eyes and you guys don’t even have a clue about it.

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So its like I am talking about Amazon go read their questions

so first thing I don’t feel Amazon India should come under FAANG

you can’t compare Google and Amazon India both in terms of quality of questions

and the package so now that my eyes have opened now that I have worked around the world

I looked up Amazon India’s package and I looked at remote packages that I get as an intern

difference is day and night I am like Why have people overhyped this so much it’s great

I am not saying if somebody is working in this company it’s bad or anything I am not saying

that neither am I saying that working at this company is not good or anything like that I am

still saying apply to all these companies apply to all the FAANG companies in India

but kids it is very overrated Amazon people say that I have cracked it through CP

go look at their questions it’s like if you know leetcode easy medium DSA questions

it will be a cakewalk for you height of a binary tree, diameter of a binary tree

swap the nodes , reverse the linked list, are these questions it’s like anybody who has done

normal DSA questions even he/she will be able to do these questions. Its very easy to crack

Amazon if you have done DSA bootcamp, even my own Amazon and Microsoft will be nothing for

you and we will do this in our bootcamp only and this is similar for any ed-tech startup

courses I am not against any ed-tech startups even when I was reading about DSA

I did it in an ed-tech startup but it took so much had work above it because they didn’t

cover graphs, DP it gave me a good head start I am not saying that it was not bad I am

still saying they are doing great work but I also have the freedom to provide quality

education content creators getting paid is not bad but the bullshit that you say this guy is

teaching you from Amazon they have got this job here they have done this in life

it’s not because of CP basically promoting selling dreams of competitive coding that

competitive coding is the only way to make it at companies like Amazon India again Amazon

India is great but this is a lie you can look at the questions it’s not my personal view

go look at some questions from previous year and look at the salary packages

something around 13 L I believe so why have you overhyped this so much that this is what

I want to do I want to do FAANG 13 lakhs is way below average as compared to remote startups

and Indian startups let alone remote startups Ishan can also tell.

Startups like Phonpe they have a package of 18lakhs why have you overhyped it

so this is why it is important to tell kids about these facts these are not my personal views.

Interview problems are easy and packages are also low so kids fear that opportunities

are less in India why because I can’t crack FAANG you’re very lucky you’re a computer

science student nobody is more lucky than you. If you’re a great CP coder so whom should you

take advice from ‘Ericto’, he’s next level right ‘tourist’ they are next level In google

codejam they don’t believe such lies they do competitive programming for fun

they have interest above that they come with their courses. Look at Amazon’s questions you

cracked Amazon through CP was it mandatory it is overrated look at packages, questions

amazing it is great not saying anything about that thing but overrated and saying this is

important otherwise people won’t get out FAANG and I am not the only one saying this

but people whon work in google are saying it you can look at their posts they say it

themselves I did a podcast with Gaurav Singh he was also like competitive coding is not

mandatory he used to work at UBER he has started his own startup. In ed-tech startups

they have techniques to sell their courses when I was in ed-tech startup they used to say if

you won’t do C++ and CP you won’t end up anywhere please don’t do such things

if anyone is saying this look at the package and compare it with startup packages

and compare what questions they are asked. Google, Facebook they require work Facebook asks

hard questions if you’re interviewing for production engineering you need to learn a lot

about it I wrote a post about CP programmers don’t care about tech and innovation that is

true that is my view people got offended they’re saying everyone is not sharing everything

but that is not the question, question is CP programmers don’t I know they work at Google

for 1 year and start an ed-tech startup and they are asking 2-3lakhs rupees

saying we have cracked google and we will tell you how to crack it so it is ok competitive programming is ok

but to answer your question the path that I followed competitive programming is great

rankings do matter sometimes in India not outside India I got shortlisted for google

I cleared all my interview I got so many offers so many companies reached out no one asked

for competitive programming I have a senior in college 2019 pass out and he used to do

competitive coding he really enjoyed doing it so he had a good rank on codechef or something

so what happened google reached out to him through that and right now he is working at

Google Dublin that is true so the kickstart competition that happen so its like if you have

high ranking in these and you have good ranks in codechef codeforces etc so they reach out

to people directly so what I advocate is I am never saying you can’t make it with

competitive programming but I don’t know why people just make it I have always said

do what you want they are opportunities in both the fields competitive programming

is not everyone’s cup of tea but the hype that is created around it that Google Amazon

Microsoft they only take competitive coding is so wrong, it may happen but this is not the

only way and in my personal experience if you leave CP and do development and open-source

and become good at it you will get so many opportunities you will get tired of declining

offers I’m declining 1 opportunity every week because I am very happy where I am right now

I am again repeating I am not saying this wrong I am saying you can do it companies will

reach out ton you but it is not everyone’s cup of tea if you want to take a safer side and

you want to have some fun too I am not saying CP is no fun but again for the 100th time

it is a personal preference as I said in the beginning do DSA startup CP with DSA

if you like it do it else leave it I would also recommend pay some attention to development

and Open-source too because first of all everything I am mentioning is for Tier-2 Tier-3

students I don’t know what goes on in Tier-1 so I never like to give advice on things that I

don’t know how so what goes on in Tier-1 colleges I don’t know if you ask me about

Blockchain I don’t know bro ask someone else so if you want to get guidance in tier-1

colleges reach out to your senior I am saying this for tier-2 tier-3 kids

Amazon India Microsoft India you require 0 CP not required at all and other companies like

Google Facebook and UBER they require some you need to use your brain with their interview

questions because their salary is more too Google India’s base in around 18-19 Lakhs correct

me if I am wrong but I am definitely sure it is way more than Amazon so hype for that is

justified that okay google is good but the hype about Amazon is so wrong it is misguiding

so many kids so I recommending you if you want opportunities try development do competitive

programming too I am not saying don’t do it if you like it do it if not don’t do

one more bad thing is this fuss is done by Indians only I don’t have any reason I don’t know

why they do it One guy wont call me an outsider I have been in GSOC for so many years every

year 2-3 student create fuss about it I am not targeting anyone I am not targeting any group

of people I am also an Indian who do great work Ishan is an Indian who does great work

I am just asking you all a questions why does this happen in India so much

All of my LinkedIn connections, now you will say because Kunal all your connections are

Indian no because 90% connections are outside India I removed 25000 connections on LinkedIn

I might have removed many people randomly. How did this happen?

Bro I used to see so much junk on LinkedIn that which is your favorite language

like for java heart for Python that is engagement trap so I used to see a lot of junk

so I downloaded an app from that its name was leetdelta, with that I randomly removed 25000

people so if I have removed some of you from that don’t take it personally I think Ishan

maybe you also got removed because I don’t check my LinkedIn the people I used to work with

they also got removed I don’t check my linkedIn I only use it for promotion, publicity

and content sharing so you also remove all this it will be good for your mental health.

I was asking what should college students should be doing like yearwise if you can tell.

In first year Data Structures and Algorithms try your hands on with CP once you’re done with

that try your hands on with development plus open-source In the start of 2nd year if

your'e tier-2 or tier-3 college student here you will get to enhance your networking 169 00:14:30,001 --> 00:14:35,001 opportunities enhance your resume and get some amazing referrals you will directly get

opportunities ok so that is the path that I followed I realized very early in my career

when I got these opportunities that you now all the hype is overrated in India based on

the package that they offer so that’s why I didn’t even apply I directly went for remote

startups because you get good work and you get to work a lot amazing stuff

still great I am not saying don’t apply 13lakh rupees is not less for any kid but it is

not worth the hype that you will destroy your whole future by just focussing on FAANG

try to understand only I am not saying it the people who are working here are also saying

it to apply outside FAANG. In short apply outside of FAANG as well apply inside of FAANG as

well but realize that FAANG is not everything realize that CP is not mandatory

you can totally skip it if you don’t like it totally do it if you like it if you’re very

good at CP certainly these big companies will reach out to you opportunities in development

is a safe path because your work speaks for itself and more opportunities you get as

compared to CP in my experience so both are great do what you like so when you are in your

second year one more thing I want to answer that Ishan asked What should be the roadmap right?

So in the beginning if you have done some DSA and problem solving keep doing little little

questions everyday I cleared my google interview with this so if I ever want to give

interview for coding rounds I always go prepared why because I cleared my fundamentals in

the starting in 1st semester it takes around 2-3 months to clear it after that

keep practicing little by little like do it for 3 hours in the day suppose you are doing 30

questions in 3 hours everyday so even if you are taking 30 minutes in 1 question you will be

able to do 6 questions in a day so if you can do 6 questions in a day so you will be doing 180 questions in a month

and even if youre doing it for 4 months that will amount to 720 questions of leetcode it is very good

so in the morning do DSA this is the path that I followed so with this I was interview ready

any company will come I will be able to do it I have done it and rest of the day I will

invest in project and open-source and community work non-code contributions content creation

I am a part of Student programs also so you can apply for MLSA and Github campus expert

get involved with cloud native tech or else if you don’t want to projects or

machine learning then tensor flow is there, if you wantto do blockchain there is Hyperledger

if you want to do mobile development there is flutter these all are open-source.

Go to google summer of code website and look for organisations and there you can find open

source organisations build your social profile share the things you are doing in public

learning in public is important networking skills matter youre not boasting

share your achievements it is very important you have done the hard work you have all rights

to do it it is important do it if someone is saying why are you sharing block such people

ignore such people these people cant go anywhere who get jealous of your success

it is important to share your achievements please share it other than that

I would recommend network with people don’t network just because he will get me internship

opportunities no network to actually learn from them actually collaborate with them

if you do good work in public how did I get Google referral I work in public I do things in public

I asked some random people they were Indians so I asked them can you give me google referral

I do amazing work so they said sorry man cant give it you show your competitive coding

ranking of google so I asked someone who works at google North America I was like hey

can you give me google referral I do some great work he was like yeah take it not just

saying that this happens only in Indian companies I got 2 google referrals in India too

which was given to me by Indian engineers of google so that is because I do good work in

public they were like yeah Kunal you are doing good work they were like we would love to

give you a referral I still have 2 referrals at my disposal I haven’t used them

I have 1 from adobe, a letter from them saying would you like to give an interview.

That’s it from me I hope you got to learn something from this video let me know if you’re

still watching just say I watched till the end do share this video tag us on Instagram as

well as on Twitter and that would be a great way for you to start learning in public as he

talked in the first part of this interview check it out if you’re interested

also do check out relevel test from link in the description that’s it from me thank you for

watching see you again in the next video. Bye-bye