Robo Advisors: Investor Friend or Foe? - YouTube

Channel: Ben Felix

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If I’m going to talk about robo advisors,  I need to start by clearing something up.  
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These firms do not employ robots. They do  not use advanced artificial intelligence  
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or machine learning to build your portfolio or  give you advice. Robo advisors are simply pared  
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down wealth management firms that allow  you to easily open an investment account  
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and choose an appropriate portfolio  online without speaking to a human.
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While they may not be employing  super-intelligent robots,  
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these firms are using technology extremely well  to reduce the amount of human contact that their  
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customers need. Leveraging technology to reduce  the need for humans allows robo advisors to keep  
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their fees low compared to traditional mutual  funds and fee based financial advice firms.
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So far this sounds pretty good:  Ease of use and low fees due to  
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great technology. And it is  pretty good, but, as always,  
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it is important to look past the flashy  marketing and consider some important factors.
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I’m Ben Felix, Associate Portfolio  Manager at PWL Capital. In this  
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episode of Common Sense Investing, I’m  going to tell you about robo advisors.
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Canadian investors are starting to understand  that high fees and commissioned mutual fund  
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salespeople are not good for their financial  health. Investors seeking low-cost index fund  
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portfolios have an increasing amount of  choice in Canada. Through The Canadian  
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Couch Potato blog, my PWL Capital colleague  Dan Bortolotti popularized the idea that you  
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could manage your own investments  using ETFs or index mutual funds.
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For investors with more complicated situations,  there are full-service wealth management firms  
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using low-cost index funds, like PWL Capital.  Robo advisors fall somewhere in between.
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Many people value a relationship with a  professional wealth manager. This may be  
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due to the complexity of their situation, the  magnitude of their assets, or their level of  
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comfort with financial markets. In any case,  those people tend to be comfortable paying the  
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fee associated with a full service wealth  management firm. Despite their lower fees,  
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I do not believe that robo advisors are an  attractive alternative for these people.
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For anyone with a simple situation, the  choice between the DIY route and using a  
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robo advisor takes some consideration. We are  really weighing the cost against value of the  
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fee that robo advisors charge, so let’s think  about exactly what value they are providing.
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There are a lot of different robo advisors  in Canada with slightly different fees and  
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service offerings, so to keep things simple,  I am going to use Wealthsimple as an example.  
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They are the largest and probably  best-known robo advisor in Canada.  
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They charge zero point five percent of  invested assets on the first $99,999,  
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and zero point four percent of  assets on assets over $100,000.
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Before I continue I want to clarify that I  am in no way affiiliated with Wealthsimple.
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Wealthsimple implements and rebalances  your portfolio for you. This is one of  
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the biggest hurdles for many investors. As  simple as buying ETFs can be, Wealthsimple  
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makes it easier. Keep in mind that waiting for  a year to start your DIY portfolio because you  
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got busy is likely to cost you, on average, far  more than Wealthsimple’s fee. If you can’t take  
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action yourself, then there is value in the  ease of use that Wealthsimple has created.
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I believe that a good amount of this value  was eroded when Vanguard recently came out  
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with their one-fund solution ETFs in Canada.  Buying one single self-rebalancing ETF is  
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potentially less intimidating than  needing to buy three or more ETFs  
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to build a well-diversified portfolio.  My PWL Capital colleague Justin Bender  
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has also made YouTube videos that walk you  through the steps of purchasing an ETF.
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Wealthsimple tracks your adjusted cost base in  your taxable accounts. This is a somewhat tedious  
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task that DIY investors have to deal with.  My PWL colleague Justin Bender has written  
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a guide on how DIY investors can track their  adjusted cost base. It is not rocket science,  
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but it is a thing that a DIY ETF investor  has to do. If you only have RRSP and TFSA  
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accounts then there is no value here. If you  have taxable accounts there is some value.
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Wealthsimple harvests your tax losses. This is  only available to Wealthsimple Black customers who  
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are required to have over $100,000 invested. Tax  loss harvesting is maybe a good thing for people  
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in certain situations. It only matters if you have  a taxable investment account. Maybe there is some  
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value here, depending on the situation, but a DIY  investor could easily harvest their own losses.
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Wealthsimple Black customers also get a  complimentary Priority Pass membership which  
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lets you into airport lounges. That’s kind of neat  I guess, but also a gimmick. No real value there.
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Wealthsimple invests your monthly  contributions. This is very convenient.  
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ETFs have to be purchased like a stock,  making it a bit of a hassle for a DIY  
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investor to set up a regular monthly  contribution. They will have to log  
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into their brokerage account monthly to buy  more ETF units. There is a bit of value here,  
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but if this was the main reason to choose  Wealthsimple then something like the TD e-Series  
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mutual funds are a slightly less expensive  alternative that offers the same convenience.
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Finally, the one thing that Wealthsimple  provides that I believe could be truly  
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valuable is access to financial advice. Basic  advice is available to all customers. You can  
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speak to a Wealthsimple advisor by phone  or by email. As far as I can tell they are  
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fairly accessible and responsive. You do  not get a relationship with one advisor.  
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Wealthsimple Black customers get access to  financial planning sessions. Great, advice  
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is accessible by phone and email. The question  that follows is what is the quality of the advice.
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I am in no position to comment on the  quality of advice that Wealthsimple  
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provides. I have no experience with them  as a customer. What I do know is that  
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they announced in March 2018 that they had  reached 65,000 customers. As of June 25th,  
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2018 The Canadian Securities Administrators  National Registration search shows that  
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there are ten people employed by Wealthsimple  who are licensed to give investment advice.
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That’s over 6,500 clients per licensed advisor.  If their advisors worked 40 hours per week and  
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took no vacations, they could spend about  19 minutes thinking about each customer,  
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if they spent all of their time thinking about  their customers. This is not necessarily a bad  
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thing - it is a byproduct of their low-cost  business model, but it should be considered when  
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comparing Wealthsimple to a DIY approach. I would  not choose Wealthsimple for the advice alone.
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Speaking of financial advice, one thing have I  have noticed in talking to Wealthsimple customers  
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is that Wealthsimple’s automated portfolio  recommendations tend to be on the conservative  
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side. Wealthsimple customers who know little about  investing are answering a handful of questions  
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and being placed into a portfolio by a computer  program. It makes sense that the program would  
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tend to be more conservative than aggressive  to protect both the customer and Wealthsimple.
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I’m not saying that everyone should  invest in a 100 percent equity portfolio,  
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but in my experience a simple conversation  about risk [link to my risk video?] often  
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leads to a higher risk tolerance. Asset  allocation is one of the most important  
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drivers of returns. If robo advisors’  algorithms tend to place investors in  
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more conservative portfolios, there could be a  substantial implicit cost to their customers.
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I do not want to come across as being  negative toward robo advisors in general,  
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or Wealthsimple specifically. I think that robo  advisors are a great alternative to expensive  
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actively managed mutual funds, but it is important  to weigh the costs against a DIY approach.
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Regarding Wealthsimple, I would not say that they  are providing so much value for their fee that it  
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is obvious that everyone should invest with  them, but I think that they are a good option  
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for people with simple situations who do not need  in-depth advice, want to be completely hands-off,  
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and don’t mind paying a fee. On the other  hand, with great resources online like The  
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Canadian Couch Potato blog and Justin  Bender’s DIY Investing YouTube videos,  
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I do not think that DIY investing is out  of reach for anyone. This is especially  
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true since Vanguard's new all-in-one  ETF portfolios came on to the market.
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What do you think? Wealthsimple or  DIY? Tell me why in the comments.
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Thanks for watching. My name is Ben  Felix of PWL Capital and this is Common  
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