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Protests broke out across
the country following George
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Floyd's death in Minnesota, after
a police officer there
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knelt on his neck for
eight minutes and forty-six seconds.
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As the Black Lives Matter
movement brought thousands upon
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thousands into the street, company
after company tried to
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showed their support
on social media.
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They blacked out Instagram
and condemned police brutality
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and racial injustice.
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Consumers and activists soon called
them out with their own
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social media campaigns with
hashtags #openyourpurse and
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#pullupandshutup. And some
companies did.
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They announced big initiatives
with big price tags.
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Bank of America announced a
one billion dollar plan to
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assist communities of color
impacted by the coronavirus
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pandemic. Cisco donated five million
dollars to a number of
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organizations fighting racism.
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Millennial makeup company Glossier
pledged a one million
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dollar donation to organizations
and Black-owned beauty
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businesses. Nike committed 40 million
dollars to the Black
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community over the
next four years.
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Nike, though, soon faced criticism
for a lack of diversity
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among its executive ranks.
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Before the death of George
Floyd —and before Covid-19 forced
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corporate America into lockdown—
companies were being
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singled out on the
basis of corporate responsibility,
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either for a lack of it
or for a commitment to progressive
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ideals. It's a trend that
began to accelerate well before
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the current demonstrations
and pandemics.
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It's just now gone mainstream.
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So it's gone from something that
is looking at policies and
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procedures to something that
is looking at real-time
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behavior as it plays out
in front of us.
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This all falls under what's
known as ESG investing, which
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stands for environmental,
social and governance.
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It's a catch-all term
for socially responsible investing.
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Here's how ESG investing could
change Wall Street and the
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business world.
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Environmental, social
and governance.
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Socially responsible
investing.
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Impact investing, A lot of terms
come up when we think of
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ESG investing and it
can get confusing.
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So we're going to let the
experts define it for you.
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Well, the way we think about it
at Bank of America is, it
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basically boils down to
environmental, social and
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governance considerations that are
part of the panoply
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of considerations that we as
investors consider when buying
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and selling securities.
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ESG at the level
of corporate essentially reflects
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companies' attempts to integrate
environmental and social
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issues into the way they
do business, into their business
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model and into their strategy.
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So a quick recap.
E stands for environmental.
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S stands for social.
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G stands for governance.
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ESG investing means taking
into consideration how a
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company's environmental, social
and governance performance
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will affect a company's financial
performance and in turn,
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use that to determine
investing in the company.
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According to a Morningstar Direct
report, a record $45.6
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billion went into the global
sustainable fund universe in
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the first quarter of 2020.
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Interest in sustainable investing jumped
to 85 percent in
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2019, up from 71
percent in 2015.
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Bank of America predicts the
money in ESG investing could
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rise to between 15 and
20 trillion dollars because of
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changing demographics.
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ESG investing has its origins in
a 2004 letter from former
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United Nations Secretary-General
Kofi Annan.
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He wrote to 55 CEOs
of the world's leading financial
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institutions, inviting them to
participate in an initiative
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that would bridge the gap
between investors and important
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environmental, social and
governance issues.
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The group formed into what is
known today as the Principles
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for Responsible Investments.
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Members are required to
report their responsible investment
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activities each year.
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More than 2,000 money
managers like BlackRock, Morgan
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Stanley and JPMorgan
have signed on.
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ESG had made its mark, but
it still wasn't widely adopted
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by investors. Flash forward 16
years to January 2020.
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The CEO of the world's
largest money manager, BlackRock,
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released a letter to its
investors that stunned Wall
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Street. BlackRock CEO Larry
Fink told other chief
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executives that climate change
and investment decisions
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surrounding it would lead to
a fundamental reshaping of
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finance. Fink wrote, "As a
fiduciary, our responsibility is
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to help clients
navigate this transition.
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Our investment conviction is
that— sustainability and
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climate-integrated portfolios can
provide better
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risk-adjusted returns
to investors.
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And with the impact of
sustainability on investment returns
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increasing, we believe that
sustainable investing is the
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strongest foundation for client
portfolios going forward.
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Suddenly, every Wall Street CEO
wanted to discuss how they
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were making profit and doing
good at the same time.
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Sustainable investing can be
confusing for some investors.
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For example, you can invest
in funds or companies that
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avoid the tobacco, arms
and fossil fuel industries.
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You can also target investment
toward companies that do
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good, like workplace equality
or reducing carbon emissions.
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Those are just a
few ESG strategies.
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Investors used to think
that socially responsible investing
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would eat into a
company's profit and competitive
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advantage. Now investors see it
as an opportunity to
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identify potential risks or
even disasters before they
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happen. The biggest ESG criticism
has been that some
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companies use it as
a marketing ploy.
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These are useful statements.
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It's great marketing.
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But again, it's a lot
of sizzle, no steak.
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Companies make grand promises to
become more inclusive or
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environmentally friendly, which opens them
up to more ESG
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money and improves
their public standing.
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But some companies don't end
up following through on those
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promises. One early example?
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Volkswagen's emissions
scandal.
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Volkswagon's Emissions emissions scandal
keeps shares in the
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red. People were duped into
believing they were buying a
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green vehicle that
was not green.
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Fines and settlements that Volkswagen
has paid up to 20
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billion dollars, one of the
most costly corporate scandals
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in history. It's essentially
about maintaining business as
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usual, but trying to tell
a story or a narrative
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that exaggerates, let's
say, your environmental
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and social commitments
or initiatives.
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There's been also a number
of of real cases
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where a company had
accident, if you want,
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that, you know, the
ESG ratings provider
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anticipated in a sense.
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And that has helped
getting more recognition.
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So Equifax is a case where,
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you know, that particular company
had a fairly major hack
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problem with data
privacy and security.
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And as an example, we downgraded
Equifax a year before the
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hack to the lowest level of
our rating on the basis of
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them having already had a
relatively bad track record
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of managing their
data security.
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And on the fact that the
company in that sector should
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actually have fairly robust
practices in this area.
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The practice of greenwashing has
forced Wall Street to
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scrutinize companies.
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The skepticism around ESG
investing is warranted.
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There are companies that disclose
information just for the
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sake of disclosing.
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And so far, there hasn't been
a lot of accountability in
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terms of stated goals
versus progress towards the
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goals. How do you differentiate
as an investor between a
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company that's talking the talk
and a company that's
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walking the walk? And here what we
think we need to do is
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start tracking companies achievements
of the goals that
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they're stating in their
corporate sustainability reports,
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et cetera. And that's one
of the critical differentiating
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features when it comes
to analyzing companies.
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In Europe, laws mandate
that public companies, asset
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managers and pension funds
must disclose environmental,
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social and governance risks
in their investments.
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The U.S. doesn't have the
same level of transparency.
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In the last 10 years,
more companies in the U.S.
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have begun to self-report their
ESG performance along with
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their financial statements
each year.
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Research firms, investors and
other stakeholders take the
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self-reporting data and other
public information to rate
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the company based on a
range of ESG data.
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Criteria can range from how
they treat their employees to
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how sustainable their corporate culture
is or how diverse
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their board is. Even if a
company receives a high ESG
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ranking, it doesn't guarantee that
the company will be
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profitable in the long term.
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We know from research that
companies that do genuinely
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understand and integrate these
issues, not more
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box-ticking, not greenwashing,
but actually integrating.
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In the long run,
they are better-performing companies,
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especially those that identify
and improve on the
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financially material issues
of their industry.
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One of the things that we
have found is that depending on
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the model that you're using,
you might be getting very
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different estimates.
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So what what do you do if
a company, for example, is not
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reporting its gender diversity
in the employee
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workforce or what do you do
if a company is not reporting
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greenhouse gas emissions?
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Or what do you do if a
company is not reporting lost time
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injury rates in the workforce?
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You try to estimate that.
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So far there is no single
standard in place for ESG tracking
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that companies can all follow.
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Research firms like MSCI have
been trying to help quantify
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the data and help
investors make informative decisions.
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The firm has more than 1,000
MSCI ESG indexes and provides
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ESG ratings for
around 8,500 companies.
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The ESG rating itself we look
at different types of issue,
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depending on where the
company is operating,
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so that the nature
of their business.
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So if you take a mining
company issues about, you know, the
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environmental footprint, hats and
safety would be
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consideration that we
would look at.
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In the technology sector, it
would be more examples around
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data privacy and security.
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If we look at the retailer,
we would look at the supply
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chain and how this retailer
is managing their supply chain.
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So there's a range of issues,
or roughly 30 of them
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that we monitor.
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Over the past year, the
iShares ESG MSCI USA
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ETF, one of the most popular
ESG ETFs, has outperformed the
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S&P 500 by more than
four percent as of June
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22,2020.
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ESG investing is becoming a
bigger concern outside of Wall
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Street boardrooms.
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87 percent of millennials and
64 percent of women agree
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that ESG plays an important
role in their investment
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decisions. There are three groups
that show up as being
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most interested in ESG.
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It's millennials, women and
high net worth individuals.
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So essentially, millennials are the
folks that are going to
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inherit and generate wealth over
the next couple of
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decades. Women are increasingly heads
of households and are
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making investment decisions
for their households.
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And then high net worth
individuals are the folks that
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control the largest proportion
of assets today.
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So just millennials alone stand
to inherit or create wealth
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in the U.S. of about 80
trillion dollars over the next
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couple of decades.
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You just took that and you took
a quarter of it, a fairly
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conservative allocation, 20 trillion
dollars is effectively
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the size of the S&P 500 today.
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And that's a proportion of
assets that could potentially
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flow into ESG and impact investing
over the next couple of
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decades. The recent calls
for further transparency from
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companies on their diversity
inclusion efforts has
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reinvigorated interest from
the everyday consumer.
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As corporate executives respond
to the current crisis
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around racial inequality
and civil rights,
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I think that they are
implementing a wide range of
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approaches. Some of that
involves corporate philanthropy.
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But I tend to focus more
on what's happening inside the
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enterprise as well as what's
happening at the board level.
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That's really where the
rubber meets the road.
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And that's really where corporate
leaders actually have the
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most influence, if you
will, within their own
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organizations. And so if they
can't stand on the policies
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and practices of their own
organizations, I don't think
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they really have the
credibility, right, to use
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philanthropy as a substitute
for getting diversity and
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inclusion and human capital
management strategies right
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within their
own organizations.
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You've got to do that
first. Think about it.
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If you have a consumer
company that sells primarily to
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women, but the board of
directors is dominated by men,
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there's a disconnect between the
management team and the
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decisions being made at the
top versus who's actually
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buying the products.
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And this has actually been a
very strong signal of weaker
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return on equity for companies
that have a lack of
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diversity in their management
and board of directors.
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Similarly, for social aspects
like employee satisfaction,
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if you have a company
within a competitive landscape, your
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number one asset is
your skilled workforce.
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If your workforce is dissatisfied
and likely to leave and
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go to a competitor, that's a
risk to your bottom line and
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to your existential characteristics
in the marketplace.
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The disconnect between Wall Street
and Main Street has grown
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more and more stark, especially
with the global pandemic
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and demonstrations over racial
injustice rocking America.
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As millions lost their jobs
and thousands took to the
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streets in protest, the
stock market surged.
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But there's one silver lining.
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ESG investing is also set
to surge in 2020.
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While the market was quite
volatile, what was very
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interesting is that investors
were really flocking to
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ESG strategies.
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As early as six months ago,
the focus was squarely on the
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'E', right, and specifically on
climate change and the
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investment implications of
climate change.
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I think what has happened in
the last six months because
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of the Covid-19 crisis
and because of
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the issues around racial
inequality in the U.S.
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and the ensuing global
protests that have evolved,
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there's been a big focus on
'S' and social issues as it
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relates to labor, as it
relates to employee safety,
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as it relates to
the supply chain.
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A whole host of issues that were,
I would say, not as much
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of a focus are
absolutely front and center.
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I would expect that ESG would
be a standard option as
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opposed to one that you need to
ask for, you know, if your
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clients of a mutual fund
or a wealth management
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organization. And the second
element is full transparency
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on the ESG characteristics of
funds so that as an
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investor, you feel comfortable that
you know what you're
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buying in terms
of ESG characteristics.
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In 10 years, this will probably
be much more embedded in the
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investment process.
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ESG investing won't be some
carve out of the investment
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panoply, but every investor in the
world will be armed with
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these new tools and these new
data sets that will help them
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to make more
informed investment decisions.
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