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Buying a rural site or derelict dwelling and developing - YouTube
Channel: Terry Gorry Solicitor
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in this video i want to take a look聽
at the question of buying a site聽聽
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in a rural ireland or buying a fixer-upper聽
a rundown derelict cottage and doing it up聽聽
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and looking at the difficulties and the聽
practicalities and the issues that might聽聽
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arise so if that's sort of thing is of聽
interest here continue watching the video聽聽
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okay so many people have contacted me from聽
time to time through my youtube channel and聽聽
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have expressed an interest in buying a site聽
somewhere in ireland perhaps in rural ireland聽聽
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and doing up a place or building a house from聽
scratch and they can buy sites for cheap money in聽聽
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different counties in the country for example聽
kerry or along the western seaboard and so on聽聽
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but this video is looking to address some聽
problems or issues that will arise and which聽聽
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must be considered when you're going to聽
embark on such a project there's nothing聽聽
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wrong with this sort of a project it is a dream聽
for very many people but you do need to be aware聽聽
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for the practical considerations that you聽
need to take into account and weigh up聽聽
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and throw over in your mind first thing is you聽
can buy a site anywhere in ireland including聽聽
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around here in county kildare or indeed in carrier聽
cork or wexford or donegal or any place you like聽聽
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you can buy a site very very easily聽
and very very cheaply however聽聽
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that site is likely to be a half an acre聽
or three quarters of an acre or an acre of聽聽
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agricultural land and the biggest problem you're聽
going to have is getting planning permission to聽聽
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develop it it's not impossible but it will be聽
difficult and there will be a reason as to why聽聽
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your property your site is going to be relatively聽
cheap because the farmer or the local who's聽聽
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selling it to you knows perhaps full well that聽
there's no prospect whatsoever of getting planning聽聽
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and he may have tried himself on a number of聽
occasions but regardless of that the very first聽聽
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thing you need to consider seriously would be聽
the likes of planning will you get planning as i聽聽
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say it's not even possible but it is difficult聽
especially when you don't have a local needs聽聽
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uh criteria or qualification as it were聽
you may be a blow in as required to an area聽聽
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now you can get around this to a certain extent聽
by buying the site subject to and conditional upon聽聽
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getting planning permission this involves you聽
buying the site entering into the contract聽聽
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paying a deposit and it would be a special聽
condition in the contract that the sale will聽聽
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only complete and you will only have to fork out聽
the balance of the purchase money and complete the聽聽
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purchase if you get planning permission if you聽
don't get applying permission all bets are off聽聽
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planning permission can be a very slow process聽
the planning process in ireland is slow聽聽
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there's always the possibility of objections聽
as well and you may have to carry out various聽聽
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surveys in order to test the ground for聽
its capacity to do or deal with sewage聽聽
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and so on obviously you're going to have聽
to have meetings with local authority聽聽
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you're going to have to have planning meetings聽
with the local authority planning department and聽聽
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you're going to have to engage the services of an聽
engineer or a surveyor will be able to assist you聽聽
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and who will be familiar with the local authority聽
so that's the biggest problem you're going to have聽聽
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second thing is the second issue then would be聽
the question of services you might get a site and聽聽
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it may or may not have services however when i say聽
services i'm referring to sewage and i'm referring聽聽
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to water it may well be the case that there is聽
services close by but it's very very unlikely in聽聽
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a rural setting you're likely to have to install聽
a septic tank or some sort of a bio-care bio-cycle聽聽
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system which treats the sewage from your house and聽
allows you to discharge it safely into the ground聽聽
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and you're going to have to provide your own聽
water your own running water so that will involve聽聽
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the pouring of a well if you go down deep enough聽
you will find water anywhere in ireland however聽聽
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the difficulty will be that you will get the聽
depending on the topography of the particular聽聽
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property and where it's located you will you聽
may have to go very deep and you may have聽聽
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uh you'll be probably charging or being paid be聽
paying for the service by the foot as it were聽聽
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in other words the further down you have to go聽
to get hit water and a good solid source of water聽聽
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the more expensive is going to be so there are two聽
things you need to consider sewerage and services聽聽
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another thing you need to consider very carefully聽
would be access to your site so is there a right聽聽
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of way is there a local authority road is it taken聽
in charge is it on an old land commission road聽聽
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is it right away that many people have used for聽
many years however it's not clear who exactly聽聽
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can use it or has it been registered etc etc聽
you don't want to walk into a situation where聽聽
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somebody tells you you have a right away to聽
go down that boring or that lane and the next聽聽
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thing is you buy the site and you start your聽
development and somebody pops up and says you聽聽
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have no right to go down there there's no right of聽
way there's no right of way registered and so on聽聽
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and so forth so that's another factor you need to聽
consider the question then of either doing up an聽聽
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existing property a derelict property or building聽
from scratch would obviously involve some sort of聽聽
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construction project so there's two ways you聽
can go about that you can contract out the whole聽聽
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shooting gallery to a building contractor a small聽
building contractor who will give you a price for聽聽
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the whole deal from start to finish and you're聽
hoping to guard that the price won't be or the聽聽
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contractual price won't be exceeded and there聽
won't be significant overruns it's up to you to聽聽
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manage it to a certain extent but by and large you聽
have a contract with a local building contractor聽聽
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and you should be able to rely on that contract聽
you may on the other hand decide to go a diy route聽聽
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and you may be tight for money and you may have聽
certain building skills or certain diy skills聽聽
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which you believe will allow you to do the project聽
yourself that's great then you're going to have聽聽
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the issue of obtaining or getting subcontractors聽
reliable some contractors at the right price聽聽
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you're going to have to organize laborers聽
you're going to have to organize materials聽聽
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you're going to have to do the logistics of聽
ordering in the correct materials in the correct聽聽
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order getting the correct trades in in the correct聽
order and so on and so forth and that if you don't聽聽
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have experience is a tricky and skillful task聽
that does require a good bit of skill a good聽聽
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bit of experience a good bit of know-how so聽
there are the two ways you can go you can try聽聽
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and manage it yourself try and do it yourself try聽
and use your own skills yourself in the project聽聽
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be it a diy job or be a building from scratch聽
or you can put the thing out the tender to a聽聽
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building contractor will give you a fixed price聽
and you should be able to rely on that price聽聽
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they are the issues that you're going to run聽
into if you have a dream of buying a site in聽聽
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the countryside for cheap money 15 to 20 grand or聽
buying a derelict cottage that you are going to聽聽
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do up yourself or do up with the assistance of a聽
building contractor there's one further thing that聽聽
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i forgot to mention there and that's just to do聽
with the planning situation assuming you do get聽聽
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planning permission then your planning permission聽
will contain development levies in either in other聽聽
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words these are levies or money is payable to聽
the local authority for the provision of services聽聽
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it's arguable whether the local authority聽
would be providing any services to you or not聽聽
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but the bottom line is there will be聽
a condition in the planning commission聽聽
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making provision for you giving the聽
lump of money to the local authority聽聽
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so you need to be aware of that as well聽
and different counties have different聽聽
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rates of levies and some counties are more聽
expensive than others in the overall context聽聽
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of things it's not something that should be a real聽
deal breaker but having said that uh some councils聽聽
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can be very local authorities can be fairly聽
enthusiastic when it comes to getting in getting聽聽
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in finance obviously they have responsibilities聽
and so on as well and money makes the world go聽聽
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around anyway that's the situation i think there聽
are issues i think there are considerations聽聽
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that you need to consider if you're thinking聽
about getting a derelict cottage in the country聽聽
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and doing it up or if you're thinking of buying a聽
greenfield site a half an acre three quarters of聽聽
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an acre or an acre from a local farmer and trying聽
to build your own house i think they're the issues聽聽
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you're going to rent hope you find this video聽
useful if you do i would appreciate if you gave it聽聽
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the thumbs up down below and you may be interested聽
in subscribing to my youtube channel thanks a lot
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