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What is ESG? - YouTube
Channel: Morningstar Europe
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Welcome to the Morningstar Investment Board. I'm
Holly Black. Today, we are talking ESG. ESG is
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getting an awful lot of attention in the investing
world at the moment, increasingly popular way for
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people to invest, but really confusing. Why is it
confusing? Because it's got so many names and so
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many different ways that we refer to it and it's
all very personal how we think about these things.
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So, it can be called ethical investing,
sustainable investing, SRI, green, impact.
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It is no wonder that most people end up looking
a bit like this chap when they are trying to work
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out if ESG is for them. Their legs shrink, their
head gets massive. It's all quite terrifying.
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But ESG is actually really simple.
So, all you need to think of it is
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environmental – how do companies treat
the planet; social – how do companies
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treat people; governance – how a company is
being run. A lot of people think ESG investing
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isn't for me. I just want to make the most money
possible. Maybe ESG investing isn't for you. But
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if you are at all interested in climate change,
equal pay for men and women or bribery and
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corruption at companies or modern slavery,
then ESG investing is for you because this is
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all of those things. And you can still make
profits from it. We're now seeing increasing
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amounts of evidence that investing in this
way doesn't mean compromising your returns.
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So, how does it work? We need to think about –
let's think about some different companies that
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are listed on the FTSE as an example. So, we've
got Ocado, Aviva, Just Eat, British American
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Tobacco, HSBC, GlaxoSmithKline, trying to remember
which I wanted on my list, Rio Tinto, Barratt,
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that's a house developer, Diageo. Is that about
10? Always works better with even numbers.
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So, if we have that list of companies, ESG
investing just means picking and choosing
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which ones align with our personal values.
So, a few ways you could go about this.
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You could screen negatively. Now, that means
leaving out things you don't want to invest in.
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Maybe you really don't – you're worried
about climate change, you don't want to
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invest in any companies that have anything
to do with fossil fuels. So, you'd go, well,
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I'm not going to invest in Rio, I'm not going to
invest in BP, which I forgot to write down here,
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and you'd look for a fund that invests
in that way and rule those companies out.
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Maybe you don't agree with tobacco and
alcohol. You can find a fund that rules out
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any company that makes a significant portion
of its revenues from those activities. So,
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that would probably be things like Ocado. That
would be Diageo because that brews drinks and
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it would definitely be British American
Tobacco because the clue is in the name.
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But you don't have to just screen things out.
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More commonly, what funds now do is to look for
companies making a positive impact, and that's
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positive screening. I mean, it's really not
difficult stuff. So, you could look for companies
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that are members of the 30% club. So, that means
at least 30% of their board members are women,
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in which case, you would invest in Aviva, you
would invest in HSBC, you would invest in Barratt.
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You might look for companies that have been
shown by research to be working in line with
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the UN sustainability goals. If you wanted that,
you'd probably pick out Glaxo and Diageo. So,
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that is an example of how personal ESG investing
is, because the same person could rule out Diageo
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because they don't like alcohol and rule it
in because it's working towards the UN goals.
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So, there are a few ways that we can invest
with ESG criteria in mind. You can pick out
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individual stocks in this way and that is
just researching companies that align with
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your goals that you think are working in
a way that you want them to. Morningstar
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has something called a Globe Rating, which is
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an indicator of how sustainable we think a fund or
a company is in comparison to its peer group. But
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if you don't want to do research yourself, you can
find a fund manager to do the hard work for you.
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That's getting easier. Around 25% of funds now
invest with some kind of ESG goals in mind.
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There are a few different ways they go about
it. They get more stringent as you go. So,
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you could have an ESG consideration fund which
is – where it's not the main aim of the fund,
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but they do like to bear these things in
mind and probably avoid the worst of the
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worst companies that are doing very dirty
things. You could have an ESG-focused fund,
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which as the name suggests, is more
focused, has some specific goals,
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wants companies to be making a positive impact,
wants to see evidence of good stewardship,
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so will be voting at those annual general
meetings if they don't agree with executive pay.
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Impact – this is getting more specific now.
This will be a fund manager that's looking for
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companies that are having a positive impact
on the world, perhaps in energy efficiency
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or carbon reduction, or even just fair pay. And
finally, you can get a sector or a thematic fund.
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And that will really focus on, again, clue in
the name, specific sectors. So, that could be a
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renewable energy or a water fund, really targeting
companies that are trying to make an impact in a
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specific industry. So, ESG, maybe it's not for
you, but it's not as confusing as you think.
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